Do you believe in God (19 Viewers)
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kali please keep an eye out for peoples feelings when you make statements.
hwie- thats what drew me to religion. when i look at myself and imagine the human race without thumbs, or without *****es, or lungs, or feet or if the earth wasnt at a perfect distance away from the sun i ask myself how the hell would we survive?
hwie- thats what drew me to religion. when i look at myself and imagine the human race without thumbs, or without *****es, or lungs, or feet or if the earth wasnt at a perfect distance away from the sun i ask myself how the hell would we survive?
Can I ask you the same thing?your first point: sorry for misinterpreting. imho humans made the world a dump.
second- i asked you to prove a point. assuming you say yes, its a matter of faith that you know you have a brain. you have not observed your brain with either of your 5 senses. hence you do not depend on what you observe, but on faith to believe you have a brain.
faith is a just a fancy word for trust, or a general belief
second- i asked you to prove a point. assuming you say yes, its a matter of faith that you know you have a brain. you have not observed your brain with either of your 5 senses. hence you do not depend on what you observe, but on faith to believe you have a brain.
faith is a just a fancy word for trust, or a general belief
I believe in God.
Naturally
God made us to be social beings.
Throughout the whole of Genesis 1, everything God made is good.
4. "God saw that the light was good"
10. "And God saw that it was good."
12. The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
18. to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good.
21. So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
25. God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
31. God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.
Then in Genesis 2, God sees something wrong:
18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone."
How cool is that?! The first thing that God said wasn't good, is for us to be alone. The worst form of punishment in prison is solitary confinement. We're made to be with other people; we're communal beings. God made us that way
Matthew 18
For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."
It's much better that way
See above.
Romans 12:5
"So in Christ, we who are many form one body, and each memeber belongs to all the others"
That's like saying to someone, "I loooove your face, it's so beautiful... but that body?
It's gotta go. Disgusting.."
Christ is the head of the church, and its members are its body.
There's nothing wrong with that Nobody's expecting you to just close your eyes and seal your mouth, and blindly believe. The important thing is that after you find the answers (or even if you don't) to your questions, that you come to the conclusion that God exists.
C.S. Lewis (author of most famously the Narnia chronicles and great man of God) was a huge intellectual. His brainpower and depth of thinking can be seen through all the amazing books he's written over the years.
Being such an intelligent man, he naturally had so many questions for God, and wouldn't be satisfied until they were all answered beyond a doubt. Somewhere along the way though, he realised that none of those little questions really mattered...
The common trend i see with these responses is that they all rely on God being confined by human abilities and limitations.
Fli, why should (even a theoretical) God be limited to the confines of physical presence and time?
Anders, do you see the wind? Is it wavy and blue like you see in picture books? Do you see gravity lines moving toward the earth at 9.8 m/second? No. Then how do you know that wind and gravity exist? Because we feel it and see evidence of it in the trees that sway and leaves that blow. We see it when we throw a piece of paper into the air. It flutters around, then drops to eh ground.
We know these things exist, even if they're not visible to the naked eye. So it is with God.
Sure, seeing the evidence of God in nature and creation isn't as straightforward as just observing the swaying of branches in the wind, or footballs falling to the ground, but it's there :extatic:
Sorry, I knew i'd get carried away as soon as I saw the thread title. :embarass:
Naturally
God made us to be social beings.Throughout the whole of Genesis 1, everything God made is good.
4. "God saw that the light was good"
10. "And God saw that it was good."
12. The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
18. to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good.
21. So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
25. God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
31. God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.
Then in Genesis 2, God sees something wrong:
18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone."
How cool is that?! The first thing that God said wasn't good, is for us to be alone. The worst form of punishment in prison is solitary confinement. We're made to be with other people; we're communal beings. God made us that way
Matthew 18
For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."
It's much better that way
See above.
Romans 12:5
"So in Christ, we who are many form one body, and each memeber belongs to all the others"
That's like saying to someone, "I loooove your face, it's so beautiful... but that body?
It's gotta go. Disgusting.."Christ is the head of the church, and its members are its body.
There's nothing wrong with that
Nobody's expecting you to just close your eyes and seal your mouth, and blindly believe. The important thing is that after you find the answers (or even if you don't) to your questions, that you come to the conclusion that God exists.C.S. Lewis (author of most famously the Narnia chronicles and great man of God) was a huge intellectual. His brainpower and depth of thinking can be seen through all the amazing books he's written over the years.
Being such an intelligent man, he naturally had so many questions for God, and wouldn't be satisfied until they were all answered beyond a doubt. Somewhere along the way though, he realised that none of those little questions really mattered...
The common trend i see with these responses is that they all rely on God being confined by human abilities and limitations.
Fli, why should (even a theoretical) God be limited to the confines of physical presence and time?
Anders, do you see the wind? Is it wavy and blue like you see in picture books? Do you see gravity lines moving toward the earth at 9.8 m/second? No. Then how do you know that wind and gravity exist? Because we feel it and see evidence of it in the trees that sway and leaves that blow. We see it when we throw a piece of paper into the air. It flutters around, then drops to eh ground.
We know these things exist, even if they're not visible to the naked eye. So it is with God.
Sure, seeing the evidence of God in nature and creation isn't as straightforward as just observing the swaying of branches in the wind, or footballs falling to the ground, but it's there :extatic:
Sorry, I knew i'd get carried away as soon as I saw the thread title. :embarass:
Insults? Once again, I'd like you too show me a post, where I've said something offensive.
I respect what people believe in, but this is a forum, a place where you discuss certain things. This thread is about if you believe in god or not. I answer, someone replies to my post and so on... discussing things. I haven't said that anything is wrong, I'm just saying I don't believe in it.
I respect what people believe in, but this is a forum, a place where you discuss certain things. This thread is about if you believe in god or not. I answer, someone replies to my post and so on... discussing things. I haven't said that anything is wrong, I'm just saying I don't believe in it.