Wait... one player can't win an entire match by himself? What is the world coming to? He must be a total waste.
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I guess we'll see how he does with Athletico. Juventus was a mess, Wolfsburg was even worse.
I just think that it's a joke how some people constantly attack this guy on here. Especially when he's new to a team, and fails to "win the game" after coming on in the 64th minute as a substitute. Argue we overpaid all you like, he would have been a useful part to have last year. Much more useful than Whorehay, etc.
I just think that it's a joke how some people constantly attack this guy on here. Especially when he's new to a team, and fails to "win the game" after coming on in the 64th minute as a substitute. Argue we overpaid all you like, he would have been a useful part to have last year. Much more useful than Whorehay, etc.
Players do need to perform, you're right about that.
It's fair to say that he hasn't produced up to the expectation, given the price tag. It's fair to say that he's not a superstar who a top club should aim to 'build' a team around. But a team is more than one player, and he could be quite useful in a more balanced squad.
I think it's also fair to say that he's played at two intensely dysfunctional teams the past couple of seasons, and that clearly he's a better player than he's shown during that time. Those environments were conducive to failure - all you have to do is look at the clubs internal turmoil, and obviously their team results. If he's going to return to form, he needs a stable environment, and some continuity.
He was able to change games at Bremen, that's why he was bought in the first place - he had tore the Bundesliga up. He also had some pretty epic perfomances in their Europa run. Now the onus is on him to show that he can do that for Atletico. He'll need a little time to settle in, but I think he'll be a nice piece of business for them. They got him for dirt cheap - pretty sure this guy cost them less than Pepe cost us.
Anyway, I'm really not some Diego superfan, buddy. People might think that, but I'm not. I defend him a lot, but it's because I don't like some of the specious arguments that people come up with (like "he sucked at Wolfsburg, so he's a terrible player"), I thought he deserved more of a chance here (he worked hard, seemed like a good teammate even if the end product wasn't always there - that team was rubbish), and I prefer to place the blame on incompetent management. He shouldn't have been the scape goat for all of that disfunction, and Marotta (and others) basically treated him as such.
It's fair to say that he hasn't produced up to the expectation, given the price tag. It's fair to say that he's not a superstar who a top club should aim to 'build' a team around. But a team is more than one player, and he could be quite useful in a more balanced squad.
I think it's also fair to say that he's played at two intensely dysfunctional teams the past couple of seasons, and that clearly he's a better player than he's shown during that time. Those environments were conducive to failure - all you have to do is look at the clubs internal turmoil, and obviously their team results. If he's going to return to form, he needs a stable environment, and some continuity.
He was able to change games at Bremen, that's why he was bought in the first place - he had tore the Bundesliga up. He also had some pretty epic perfomances in their Europa run. Now the onus is on him to show that he can do that for Atletico. He'll need a little time to settle in, but I think he'll be a nice piece of business for them. They got him for dirt cheap - pretty sure this guy cost them less than Pepe cost us.
Anyway, I'm really not some Diego superfan, buddy. People might think that, but I'm not. I defend him a lot, but it's because I don't like some of the specious arguments that people come up with (like "he sucked at Wolfsburg, so he's a terrible player"), I thought he deserved more of a chance here (he worked hard, seemed like a good teammate even if the end product wasn't always there - that team was rubbish), and I prefer to place the blame on incompetent management. He shouldn't have been the scape goat for all of that disfunction, and Marotta (and others) basically treated him as such.
You're right Klin, players do need to man up and take some blame. Accountability is fundamental in sports, and I don't want players on ANY of the different sports team's I support who aren't accountable for their actions. I also want the management of those teams to be accountable for their mistakes.
I imagine that if you actually asked Diego, he'd probably admit that he didn't play up to his ability - in fact, I've heard him say as much in interviews (things didn't go the way he thought, hoped, etc.) - and obviously he isn't "proud" of his performances the last two years. I guess we'll see if he steps up his game at Atletico. Now I've had enough of this thread.
I imagine that if you actually asked Diego, he'd probably admit that he didn't play up to his ability - in fact, I've heard him say as much in interviews (things didn't go the way he thought, hoped, etc.) - and obviously he isn't "proud" of his performances the last two years. I guess we'll see if he steps up his game at Atletico. Now I've had enough of this thread.
