Diego Perotti - LW - Sevilla (17 Viewers)

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
14,300
#82
And what sort of team are we striving to be, exactly? :D
A team that can challenge for the scudetto. :D

I'm not saying that I wouldn't welcome him as an upgrade to our left side, but at the risk of sounding like Marotta, "we need champions".
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
#83
Don't preach to me I think he looks pretty good. Love his speed. I don't know why there's not much hype around him though there has to be a catch.
I'm not preaching. Just saying, you mentioned stats in Perotti's case yesterday and today with the Hungarian he actually has good stats. Besides, I don't think that many dutch league players get as hyped as some other good players in more dominate leagues.
 

only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
7,451
#84
I'm not preaching. Just saying, you mentioned stats in Perotti's case yesterday and today with the Hungarian he actually has good stats. Besides, I don't think that many dutch league players get as hyped as some other good players in more dominate leagues.
If your talking about Dzsudzsak then don't just look at his stats. The man hardly beats his marker and we're talking about a pretty average (below average) dutch league defenders.

Watched many games for him and am not impressed "at all". He's pretty good at positioning and taking on his chances infront of the goal. But overall he's pretty average.

I'd "much" rather Perotti over him.
 

blondu

Grazie Ale
Nov 9, 2006
27,408
#85
A team that can challenge for the scudetto. :D

I'm not saying that I wouldn't welcome him as an upgrade to our left side, but at the risk of sounding like Marotta, "we need champions".
no way man...martinez was a risk but scoring so many goals from that position for a team like psv gives me full confidence..i would sign him in a sec if i was marotta..him, lich, hazard and inler
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,472
#86
If your talking about Dzsudzsak then don't just look at his stats. The man hardly beats his marker and we're talking about a pretty average (below average) dutch league defenders.

Watched many games for him and am not impressed "at all". He's pretty good at positioning and taking on his chances infront of the goal. But overall he's pretty average.

I'd "much" rather Perotti over him.
Thought there was a reason why no one rates him. But if he's such an average player, how did he manage to score all those goals? Is he just really lucky?
 

C4ISR

Senior Member
Dec 18, 2005
2,362
#90
Is certainly an upgrade to our left side, and not in the Ziegler over Grosso or Grygera over Motta sense.

He is still young and will improve. People complain that we don't take enough risks on young players, well here is someone who has shown glimpses of his ability over 2 seasons in the top flight, will come for a modest fee (relative to our other targets), and could potentially grow into something bigger.

I'm not saying "DDTS", but he is a good player, and although it is a risk to bank the future of our left mid on him, it's a calculated one since were not spending Neymar, Sanchez, etc type money for him.
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
2,788
#91
It seems that liverpool have been chasing him for the last few weeks and King Kenny is very keen on bringing him to anfield...it will be interesting to see who has the major pull out of us and my most hated team in England. Both have a huge history, both have some talented players, both have former players as coaches...they finished strongly last season, we didn't. They also seem to have money to spend if the right players can be found, but then again, what proof is there of this, given they had 45m to spend when torres was sold...Thankfully, I am sure that Turn and italian culture in general, will be far more appealing to an argie, with likely italian blood in his veins to some degree, than liverpool and the scouse scum brigade.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
#92
I don't remember watching this guy play so I can't really judge.
neither me, but I enjoyed watching this. From here it's not hard to notice the guy is creative, hard worker and is good at passing (specially long ones). Then again it's only one game, and 5 minute youtube clip, I mean anyone can collect a 5 minute clip of Pepe and present him as a world class :D

 

Kasaki

Moggi's Assistant
Jun 1, 2010
13,750
#93
neither me, but I enjoyed watching this. From here it's not hard to notice the guy is creative, hard worker and is good at passing (specially long ones). Then again it's only one game, and 5 minute youtube clip, I mean anyone can collect a 5 minute clip of Pepe and present him as a world class :D
I've seen a 5 min video of Pepe's bulge during the 2010 World Cup. Boy! was he looking like a word champ :tup:
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
2,788
#94
Whatever our Conte formation, our left side remains presently...absolutely awful in the offensive third, and at best, in the defensive area; solid. I am far from amazed by the Ziegler move, but he is often very solid, can pass, can cover, can take corners, can cross...which is more than we have had for so fucking long, that it makes him seem like a godsend (especially for free and on a low wage). I will be content to have Ziegler as the starter and de ceglie challenging ( who has proven NOTHING...other than a month or two of competency). As for the offensive left flank? We have been so poor in that area that delneri tried to convert a central midfielder into a mezz'ala. that says it all really...so, the idea of adding bastos or perotti, is welcome. as either would hugely improve our offensive left flank options.

I wont pretend, like many on these virtual juve fansites, to have valuable knowledge of every single league, of every single player, those people are idiots...when i see a poster talking with confidence about a player in the dutch league, then the english league, then the french league, then the spanish league, then the italian league, then the german league...i immediately conclude : 'they are speaking shit'. for NOBODY has enough time to study all of those leagues, all of those players, and still sleep, shit, fuck or chase women, work/study...that stance is the stance of idiots who need so much to be respected for their 'knowledge', for their dedication, for their all knowing passion for football. Nobody I know face to face, who I consider a passionate football supporter, and also tactically aware, asserts intimate knowledge of more than one league. Sometimes some awareness of more than one, but never molre than happily confident of knowing ONE LEAGUE...As for my own areas of what I would call adequately solid awareness of a league for the last 15 years or so; I know the english Premiership, likely more intimately than I know Serie A...I mean, that I could much more easily talk about ANY team in the premiership, than ANY team in Serie A, knowing at least their style, their manager, their main decent players, and will have seen them play often over the last decade or so...I am much better acquainted with blackpool, and charlie adam, and holloway, than i am with brescia, or Bari. In the 90s, it was the other way around, but since around 2005/6, massively due to my movements out of england; my need for football news, games, tournaments, has been focused firstly on the premiership, juventus and whoever they play against, then secondly on Gillingham, and whoever they play against.

Most of my time in the homeland, has been spent around men who follow english football first and foremost, so its no surprise, that despite the unchallengeable love for Juve I have held close to me for 18 years now, my greatest exposure to football, is very English.

So...I have seen some of Bastos, both for brazil and for Lyon. he has always looked hugely more valuable than both Pepe, and Marchiso as a mezz'ala. As for perotti...i knew not even of his name until yesterday. And from what I have seen, of many youtube clips, he seems capable with both feet, far from lacking confidence to beat players, very, very quick on the ball, with a high quality array of passing...but that is based on around...5/6 youtube clips showcasing his apparent talents.

Presently in our squad we have...
very solid chiellini, perhaps world class, at times...potentially very solid bonucci...world class buffon...likely safe and secure ziegler...no right back...melo and pirlo as a potentially brilliant central pairing...krasic as a lightning fast, able to improve further still, right winger/wing forward...a half dead DP, a recovering Quag, a vibrant centre forward in Matri...

The most glaring omissions from that team are: a seriously potent seconda punta, a high quality left winger, and a solid right back. that really isn't hard to fathom. if perotti can be that left winger, we only need two more first XI purchases and we will be in a position to challenge for 2nd/3rd.

Inter, i hope will keep leonardo, for he is not a great manager, and will keep them within our sights. Milan? at least for a year or two, success will breed success...we need to accept this. make a team that can knit together and fight for 2nd and 3rd. Roma seem at best, disjointed for the near future. Napoli have a great team spirit, but less quality overall than what we could and should possess. Lazio? have made good use of our failings and Roma's failings and Inter's shocking, but useful for others, managerial appointments. Udinese will lose Inler and Sanchez. Two of the their three major reasons for such a fine season. Replacing those two will be extremely hard.

I would be very much appreciative to learn of the view of anyone who truly follows la liga, and has seen Perotti often over the last two years...

Personally, I like argies...probably because half my blood is sicilian, and 2/3rds of the argies are of italian origin, especially of southern italian origin..so they have, by a majority, some of the traits, of italians, that I have, partially but well expressed within my crimson rivers, and also, which i like in footballers. Whilst my english half always found joy with the savagery of vinny jones at wimbledon, the constant brutality of julian dicks, my italian half found joy with the brutality of montero, the cunning thuggery of cannavaro, the fascist arrogance of moller, the brute force of righteousness of thuram in full flight...the argies are rarely lacking a very latin kind of ruggedness and cunning...other than the spaniards and portuguese, who are a very different kinda latin blood to the italians, south and central americans. The flair is common, but the extreme lack of manliness, of the spanish and portuguese, is not common.
 

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