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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Not bringing back Conte in 2019 imo. We needed (and still do) to rebuild and Conte wouldve been perfect for that while maintaining top team status. Who knows what he might even do in CL if he ever started with a champion team instead of a project.
question obviously wasn't serious, but tuz is so extreme lately that some took it seriously. as for conte, he's one of the masters of rebuilds indeed, but he can't be trusted for a long term project and he's clearly left on wrong terms with agnelli. i don't want him back. also imagine conte's 3-5-2 with ronaldo, and conte's reaction to covid related financial restrictions. he left inda like a champ, he would have done the same with us.

in 2019 max should have been given some proper players. paratici was the biggest obstacle, not allegri.

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Against a 12th placed team on a 3-match losing streak?

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regardless of the opponent he's clearly a different player. faster, more explosive, back to his parma form. and it's been barely a few months he left. it's either the food or the physical training or both at juve. something is clearly off here, and it's been the case since years. the regular dips in intensity for the 2nd half were apparent with sarri and pirlo too, and nothing changed when allegri returned. this is something that needs to be investigated.
 

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duranfj

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Jul 30, 2015
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He’s young. There are so many reasons why he was underperforming badly, I’m glad we would sell him and Benta… hopefully we could do the same with all the others underperforming players we got

About being bad trained? Our staff is so so BAD, we have changed coach and it was even worst. How come EPL teams, RM, BM have clearly a better form than us? And let’s no talk about injuries.

I support Max and want him to stay but I just hope he could do something to improve that
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
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Buffon, Licht, Chiellini, Bonucci, Barzagli, Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba, Marchisio, Tevez, Llorente... He failed to pass the group stage with this team. Arent these players champions enough?
Emphasis on "started with a champions team" there. The Juve he started with finished 7th the previous season. Chelsea 10th. Inter 4th. Spurs no idea, but probably upper mid table.

In 2019 Id have liked to have seen what Conte can do if for the first time in his career he was given a team thats already elite, but Agnellis pride got in the way there. We all know the end result.

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question obviously wasn't serious, but tuz is so extreme lately that some took it seriously. as for conte, he's one of the masters of rebuilds indeed, but he can't be trusted for a long term project and he's clearly left on wrong terms with agnelli. i don't want him back. also imagine conte's 3-5-2 with ronaldo, and conte's reaction to covid related financial restrictions. he left inda like a champ, he would have done the same with us.

in 2019 max should have been given some proper players. paratici was the biggest obstacle, not allegri.

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regardless of the opponent he's clearly a different player. faster, more explosive, back to his parma form. and it's been barely a few months he left. it's either the food or the physical training or both at juve. something is clearly off here, and it's been the case since years. the regular dips in intensity for the 2nd half were apparent with sarri and pirlo too, and nothing changed when allegri returned. this is something that needs to be investigated.
Sarris project lasted a year. Pirlos too. Contes usual 2-3 year commitment wouldve actually been long term compared to these :p
 

Vlad

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Emphasis on "started with a champions team" there. The Juve he started with finished 7th the previous season. Chelsea 10th. Inter 4th. Spurs no idea, but probably upper mid table.

In 2019 Id have liked to have seen what Conte can do if for the first time in his career he was given a team thats already elite, but Agnellis pride got in the way there. We all know the end result.

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Sarris project lasted a year. Pirlos too. Contes usual 2-3 year commitment wouldve actually been long term compared to these :p
By the time we crashed out of groups, we have already won 2 back to back Scudetti. It was a champion team alright, the one that Allegri took to final the very next season.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Not bringing back Conte in 2019 imo. We needed (and still do) to rebuild and Conte wouldve been perfect for that while maintaining top team status. Who knows what he might even do in CL if he ever started with a champion team instead of a project.
The team wanted to transition into "offensive football". Sarri was still a bad choice, lots of other coaches if Pep wasn't available. Unfortunately, we picked the worst option. A recurring occurrence in the paratici era
 
Mar 9, 2006
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The team wanted to transition into "offensive football". Sarri was still a bad choice, lots of other coaches if Pep wasn't available. Unfortunately, we picked the worst option. A recurring occurrence in the paratici era
Bruh, who else was available in 2019? Ancelotti will never coach Juve again, Conte too, especially now after his spell in Inda, who else? De Zerbi, Inzaghi, Dionisi, Di Francesco, Giampalo, Italiano? The day they will hire one of them you will moan that they are bad choices like Sarri, especially if things will go wrong from the start. Thank fuck I wasn't here during Sarri days, he has had 1000 problems in this squad - Paratici wasn't able to sell players that Sarri didn't want, wasn't able to sign even 1 player that he wanted, pneumonia during preseason which definitely affected preparation for the season, complex long process of transformation from Allegri's style of play into the attacking 433, then that stupid stuff with Emre and Mandzukic, the injuries of Chiellini and then Demiral, then unprecedented pause because of covid, then he lost coppa final, quarter final to Lyon but still won the scudetto, absolutely deserved to stay here and to have another try. And even if it's true that the climate inside of the squad was bad then Agnelli should have been prepared to replace Sarri with a proper manager, not with a fresh graduate from Coverciano. And Agnelli went back to Allegri exactly because of this, they don't want to put a trust into no name coach again, Pep or Klopp are not available and who's left ? Nobody.
 
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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Imagine making this many excuses for that cancerous turd, Sarri.Sarri was and is a bag of shit and caused this team to start severely declining. The second half of his season was a disaster. We got worse and worse as the season went on.

Sure thing bro. Sarri didn’t want De Ligt and Demiral. Two young athletic, aggressive top class defenders. He somehow still couldn’t press high with them like your obsession. Lol

And stop lying, he got knocked out of CL in Rof16 to 7th place team in tinpot Ligue 1. Embarrassing. And then got destroyed in Supercoppa final by Lazio, and then lost Coppa final embarrassingly playing shit football against a shit Napoli side and then said he was happy they won. :lol3:

He got sacked for being a turd and making the team worse and worse and destroying our winning mentality more and more as the season went on. No surprise that we started well when the team still had Allegri’s results oriented mentality drilled into them. As more of the Sarri mentality took over we started to lose more and more and turned into a joke by the end of the season. We’re still seeing the attempts to fix his disastrous influence on player’s mentality here with all the weak-minded pussyfags he cultivated.

Sarri apologists :rofl:
 
Mar 9, 2006
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Imagine making this many excuses for that cancerous turd, Sarri.Sarri was and is a bag of shit and caused this team to start severely declining. The second half of his season was a disa6ster. We got worse and worse as the season went on.

Sure thing bro. Sarri didn’t want De Ligt and Demiral. Two young athletic, aggressive top class defenders. He somehow still couldn’t press high with them like your obsession. Lol

And stop lying, he got knocked out of CL in Rof16 to 7th place team in tinpot Ligue 1. Embarrassing. And then got destroyed in Supercoppa final by Lazio, and then lost Coppa final embarrassingly playing shit football against a shit Napoli side and then said he was happy they won. :lol3:

He got sacked for being a turd and making the team worse and worse and destroying our winning mentality more and more as the season went on. No surprise that we started well when the team still had Allegri’s results oriented mentality drilled into them. As more of the Sarri mentality took over we started to lose more and more and turned into a joke by the end of the season. We’re still seeing the attempts to fix his disastrous influence on player’s mentality here with all the weak-minded pussyfags he cultivated.

Sarri apologists :rofl:
It's you who's lying - De Ligt was an absolute fraud in the first part of that season, i've lost count how many penalties we've conceded because of his handballs or how many goals because of his poor positioning and Demiral suffered a torn ACL and his season was over in Janury.
As for "declining under Sarri" let's compare his season with the last season of Allegri:
xG with Allegri - 58.2
xG with Sarri - 68.7
xA with Allegri - 37
xA with Sarri - 43.9
Goals for with Allegri - 70
Goals for with Sarri - 76
Goals against with Allegri - 30
Goals against with Sarri - 43
Assists with Allegri - 44
Assists with Sarri - 47
Completed passes with Allegri - 18393 (progressive distance 109670)
Completed passes with Sarri - 20306 (progressive distance 113674)
Shot creating actions with Allegri - 969
Shot creating actions with Sarri - 1119
But we were "DECLINING" for sure, keep lying to yourself.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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90 pts - 83 pts

+40 goal differential - +34 goal differential

CL QF exit - CL Rof16 exit

But but but xGoals! :rofl:

So many excuses for the cancerous clown. Embarrassing. I guess we’d be right up there for scudetto if not for ref errors in Inter game last week and Tek’s awful errors in the first few weeks of the season this year. Gee, making excuses is fun.

Sarri was a failure. He’s just lucky he had Ronaldo bailing him out. And still couldn’t get past Lyon, or beat Lazio and Napoli in cup finals. Clown coach lol
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Bruh, who else was available in 2019? Ancelotti will never coach Juve again, Conte too, especially now after his spell in Inda, who else? De Zerbi, Inzaghi, Dionisi, Di Francesco, Giampalo, Italiano? The day they will hire one of them you will moan that they are bad choices like Sarri, especially if things will go wrong from the start. Thank fuck I wasn't here during Sarri days, he has had 1000 problems in this squad - Paratici wasn't able to sell players that Sarri didn't want, wasn't able to sign even 1 player that he wanted, pneumonia during preseason which definitely affected preparation for the season, complex long process of transformation from Allegri's style of play into the attacking 433, then that stupid stuff with Emre and Mandzukic, the injuries of Chiellini and then Demiral, then unprecedented pause because of covid, then he lost coppa final, quarter final to Lyon but still won the scudetto, absolutely deserved to stay here and to have another try. And even if it's true that the climate inside of the squad was bad then Agnelli should have been prepared to replace Sarri with a proper manager, not with a fresh graduate from Coverciano. And Agnelli went back to Allegri exactly because of this, they don't want to put a trust into no name coach again, Pep or Klopp are not available and who's left ? Nobody.
Sarri was under contract and we paid 6M for him. Could we have done the same for the Ajax coach? Some other young coach with fresh ideas? Sarri was cancer and was standing against everything this club represents. He lost the locker room in 6 months. He barely won Serie A with the team that cruised to the title previous year. And did we improve? Change? For the worse, yes.

There is more to coaching than letting a bunch of talented players play eye pleasing football in a low pressure environment
 

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