Cristiano Zanetti (3 Viewers)

[KB824]

True, maybe nobody else wanted the job.

But now I can guarantee you that somebody else will. Secco has had his chance, shown himself to be only an average candidate for this position, so I think we should look elsewhere. Consider Secco as just a stop-gap solution, much like Ranieri.

If you take a look at the positions we should have improved on since last year, only two out of four have been addressed -- finding a creative attacking midfielder and more solutions for central defense. The fullback slots have not been addressed. That's basically a 50% rating, which is not good enough.

Oh for the love of God, ANDY.

OF COURSE SOMEBODY ELSE WILL WANT TO TAKE IT NOW!!!!!!!


Why wouldn't they?? Look at where this team is NOW in relation to where it was 3 YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I can't believe this. Coming from you, of all people.

Did you honestly believe that Rome was built in a day, too??

An average candidate for the position. Yeah, I would like to see how someone else could have done better given the circumstances. Champions league qualification their first year back, a 2nd place finish to a clearly superior Inter squad last year, and a round of 16 appearance in their 2nd year back.

All the while with a limited transfer budget due to the enormous losses that the former Triad caused by getting Juventus into this mess in the first place.

 

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[Bjerknes]

Oh for the love of God, ANDY.

OF COURSE SOMEBODY ELSE WILL WANT TO TAKE IT NOW!!!!!!!


Why wouldn't they?? Look at where this team is NOW in relation to where it was 3 YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I can't believe this. Coming from you, of all people.

Did you honestly believe that Rome was built in a day, too??

An average candidate for the position. Yeah, I would like to see how someone else could have done better given the circumstances. Champions league qualification their first year back, a 2nd place finish to a clearly superior Inter squad last year, and a round of 16 appearance in their 2nd year back.

All the while with a limited transfer budget due to the enormous losses that the former Triad caused by getting Juventus into this mess in the first place.

I can guarantee you that somebody wouldn't have wasted tons of money on players such as Almiron, an injury-ridden Andrade, along with other players we didn't need like Poulsen. The only real successful transfers we've made in the new era have been Sissoko, Amauri, Iaquinta (whom I was wrong about), Diego and Melo (hopefully). Everything else was a disaster and a waste of money. But now we still have the problem of our weakest two positions in the team, the two fullbacks, not even addressed this summer.

There's absolutely no doubt somebody could do a better job. I'd have to say that the two most difficult transfers of the whole lot, Diego and Melo, certainly show that Secco isn't completely incapable, but the others were not difficult signings because nobody else was interested in those players.

But that's just my opinion. Doubt many would agree.

 

[Birindelli]

A player who never complained about anything doesn't deserve to be pushed out of the club in the way Zanetti was. For the record, I believe the players own words rather than the textbook answers Secco has given about the transfer.

Secco and the Board respected Camoranesi and Trezeguets contracts, different matters.

Also, I believe JCK came up with a much better was of comparing the two cases. It might not have been lo Stilo Juve when Juventus closed the door and told the remaining players to stay back in 2006, but in that situation the club was in a situation it had never been in before.

 

[Bjerknes]

A player who never complained about anything doesn't deserve to be pushed out of the club in the way Zanetti was. For the record, I believe the players own words rather than the textbook answers Secco has given about the transfer.

Secco and the Board respected Camoranesi and Trezeguets contracts, different matters.

 

[Red]

Molinaro never complains.

I bet you would be happy to see him pushed out of the club.

 

[Bjerknes]

Molinaro never complains.

I bet you would be happy to see him pushed out of the club.

Of course I would, but that's because he blows donk the size of the Empire State Building.

Don't compare him with Zanetti, please.

 

[KB824]

So in other words, Secco is the asshole because he gave Zannetti the chance to play on a regular basis for a hometown team in the Champions League who just rewarded him with a 3 year contract, instead of letting him sit on the bench this year for Juve with absolutely no guarantee that his contract would be renewed.

That's just beyond mind-boggling

 

[Red]

Of course I would, but that's because he blows donk the size of the Empire State Building.

Don't compare him with Zanetti, please.

So Secco is not allowed to push out players that you like?

Makes sense.

 

[Bjerknes]

So Secco is not allowed to push out players that you like?

Makes sense.

Welcome to the real world.

 

[Red]

FORZA SECCO!

 

[Durden]

So in other words, Secco is the asshole because he gave Zannetti the chance to play on a regular basis for a hometown team in the Champions League who just rewarded him with a 3 year contract, instead of letting him sit on the bench this year for Juve with absolutely no guarantee that his contract would be renewed.

That's just beyond mind-boggling

The problem is not Secco selling Zanetti, I am blaming him for that long irritating explanation he came with afterwards. He could have just said we needed to cut our wage bill and left it with that. It’s really bad judgment from his side in my book. Just like the Dago saga, and the negotiations done through the media. It was absolutely awful to follow..

 

[KB824]

The problem is not Secco selling Zanetti, I am blaming him for that long irritating explanation he came with afterwards. He could have just said we needed to cut our wage bill and left it with that. It’s really bad judgment from his side in my book. Just like the Dago saga, and the negotiations done through the media. It was absolutely awful to follow..

So, what exactly would you have wanted him to say???????????


The ONLY reason why this was even brought up was because of random bloggers being confused as to why he was sold. So, he gives his explanation, puts Zannetti in a better position, and that isn't good enough for you??

And as far as Dago is concerned, it was Gigli that was running his mouth to the media

 

[Birindelli]

So in other words, Secco is the asshole because he gave Zannetti the chance to play on a regular basis for a hometown team in the Champions League who just rewarded him with a 3 year contract, instead of letting him sit on the bench this year for Juve with absolutely no guarantee that his contract would be renewed.

That's just beyond mind-boggling

To me it's astonishing that Secco never talked to Zanetti about his contract. That is where he fails in this matter, in my humble opinion.

Cristiano Zanetti is a player who's only 32, Del Piero will be 35 this November! Nedved is 36, and a lot of people still wanted him to play on! Zanetti has never complained about anything during his time in Juventus, he was probably the best player during that wonderful 2007/08 season, and showed at the end of last season and in preseason this summer that he was still the best central midfielder in the club.

Why did Secco not approach him to talk about his contract?

Zanetti did not want to leave Juventus, but faced with this remarkable reality he chose to opt for Fiorentina. Ofcourse they will offer him a contract, Corvino is one of the most respected guys in the game, he knows that Zanetti will do good.

 

[KB824]

To me it's astonishing that Secco never talked to Zanetti about his contract. That is where he fails in this matter, in my humble opinion.

Cristiano Zanetti is a player who's only 32, Del Piero will be 35 this November! Nedved is 36, and a lot of people still wanted him to play on! Zanetti has never complained about anything during his time in Juventus, he was probably the best player during that wonderful 2007/08 season, and showed at the end of last season and in preseason this summer that he was still the best central midfielder in the club.

Why did Secco not approach him to talk about his contract?

Zanetti did not want to leave Juventus, but faced with this remarkable reality he chose to opt for Fiorentina. Ofcourse they will offer him a contract, Corvino is one of the most respected guys in the game, he knows that Zanetti will do good.

You say not to compare DiVaio and Miccoli to Zanetti, please shwo the same respect and don't ever, ever mention Zannetti in the same breath as two of the greatest juventini to ever wear the jersey.

Why did Secco not approach him about a contract? Does the fact that they signed Melo mean anything to you at all, coupled with the fact that Poulsen does not want to leave??

 

[Espectro]

I have one doubt here...

Zanetti claims that Secco lied becouse he never ask for first team place... but looking at the interviews that Secco made, I have fail to see when did Secco said that Zanetti was asking for first team place.

Then he mentions that he never ask for a 3 year contract to Juve... ok, that I can agree on, bad move by Secco there.

But then... something catch my eye:

“I would never have said no to Fiorentina, as they know how to treat people. That’s enough for me.”

You may argue that, after the way he was "threated" by the club, he is rigth by saying such thing, but still, he is saying I would never have sad no to Fiorentina.

And also lest not forget what Ferrara said, that he didnt want a player that dodnt want to stay in Juve, so if Secco is lying also Ferrara is lying.

Anyway, I have no intention in defending Secco or Zanetti, I just wanted to give my two cents

 

[Alen]

He wasn't disrespected. He should stop moaning now. He keeps mentioning how he's delighted to sign for Fiorentina, how it's a wonderful place and how he'd have never rejected Fiorentina's offer. What more does he want now?

He wasn't forced to leave, hell, he was even in our plans for the next season (Poulsen fucked it up by refusing to leave). We never looked for teams to sell him.
But he wasn't offered a new contract even though he never even asked for a new contract. Big fucking deal.
Maybe he should have asked for a new contract and see what happened.

But he never asked for a new contract, he wasn't offered a new contract and when Fiorentina asked for him he immediately accepted their offer.

And on top of it he goes immediately to Gazzetta and makes a drama

P.S: And Secco didn't say that we offered him a new contract and that Zanetti rejected it. Secco didn't say that Zanetti asked for first team football.

Shame on you Zanetti.
I wish you all the worst luck in your favorite team that hates Juve's guts, where you were delighted to go and where they always treat their players with respect.

 

[Bjerknes]

Immediately went to GdS? Didn't he go there after Secco spoke to the media and lied?

It's obvious that Poulsen screwed all of this up, so why not say fuck Poulsen?

 

[KB824]

And all this over a bench player. If he was a "True Juventino", there was no way he would go to Fiorentina.

No, he went there because they were going to pay him, and give him a 3 year contract. Plain and simple.

But everybody is in a circle jerk over a part time player.

 

[Alen]

And everything happened in few hours.
Fiorentina makes the offer and in few hours Zanetti is their player.

Hmmm, didn't he think about it at all? Why did he accept their offer in a blink of an eye, as if it was something he was waiting for all his life. Why did Ferrara say that he couldn't keep a player that wants to leave?

Maybe because he and his agent were working on this transfer behind Juve's back and he already agreed everything with Fiorentina days before Juve even knew about Viola's interest?

Yup, we can play it this way if you want, Cristiano!

Now go on, attack Juve and win the hearts of your new employers.
Oh, and don't forget to go through the Degobbizzazione with a big smile on your face. Your Gobbi soul must be purified.

 

[KB824]

Here's a very simple question.

Very Simple.


Considering we have Sissokko, Melo, Marchisio, Poulsen, Tiago, Diego, Camoranesi, and Giovinco, where exactly was he going to play??