Coppa Italia: Inter - Juventus [Jan 23, 2008] (27 Viewers)

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Wings

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Jul 15, 2002
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I disagree about Nocerino. I think his weaknesses are exaggerated by our squad and system. As I said b4, our destroyer shouldn't be in positions to cross to begin with. He breaks up play in the middle, and in a more balanced midfield, his performances would be more appreciated.
I catch your drift & am not really commenting on his crosses because I gave up on those long ago. Right now am more concerned about how he has been breaking up the opponents play - He seems to try too hard to create the tough guy aura. Most of his plays are called for fouls & the smarter opponents totally waste him. If you watch carefully he has been running aimlessly lately.
 

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sidd

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Sep 1, 2005
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Sky is reporting that we got Sissoko for 12 mill euro and Mellberg for 850,000 euro.
Someone who can translate this better than babelfish please

L'ultimissima audionews di Gianluca Di Marzio - Il mediano Mohamed Sissoko (nella foto) è della Juventus: per 12 milioni di euro. Sabato il maliano del Liverpool volerà dal Ghana, dove si disputa la 26esima Coppa d'Africa, a Torino per la firma e per i dettagli. Tutto posticipato al 24 gennaio l'eventuale anticipato arrivo (a gennaio anziché a giugno) del difensore Olaf Mellberg dall'Aston Villa. In uscita, il club bianconero vorrebbe piazzare il centrocampista Tiago al Tottenham Hotspur, ma il portoghese preferisce l'Atlético Madrid e per ora blocca la trattativa.
 

ZAF3000

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Feb 14, 2005
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I really don't think he was better than Mancini, he was good with the subs, but Mancio had everything against him and almost got away with a win against Juve with 10 men, the subs were perfect that of Mancio, if it weren't for the goal by Alex scored as Matrix was outside, the result in my mind would have differed a bit.
The second goal by Boumsong was from a set piece, in all of your organised attacks you failed to materialize them into goalscoring chances after that Del Piero goal.
I think Mancio's tactics were better and would have won if it weren't for the red card, the injury to Matrix and unfortune :)
That is your personal opinion.. I just hope you can go to sleep knowing that you did not draw Juve's first 11 with your reserve :D ..

Both teams got into the field with alot of missing names. I'd say they were equal (in terms of missing players) The unfortunately thing for Juve that our missing players were not even on the bench.
Good game Inter played today, but Del Piero is Del Piero :)
And about playing with 10 players, well.. Its not like you started one player short is it? you had to take down Del Piero so he wouldn't dribble past Toldo and score..
 

Cuti

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Jul 30, 2006
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L'ultimissima audionews di Gianluca Di Marzio - Il mediano Mohamed Sissoko (nella foto) è della Juventus: per 12 milioni di euro. Sabato il maliano del Liverpool volerà dal Ghana, dove si disputa la 26esima Coppa d'Africa, a Torino per la firma e per i dettagli. Tutto posticipato al 24 gennaio l'eventuale anticipato arrivo (a gennaio anziché a giugno) del difensore Olaf Mellberg dall'Aston Villa. In uscita, il club bianconero vorrebbe piazzare il centrocampista Tiago al Tottenham Hotspur, ma il portoghese preferisce l'Atlético Madrid e per ora blocca la trattativa.


Sissoko signed for Juve for 12 million euros. On Sat he flies from Ghana where he's playing in the African Cup to sign and to iron out the details. Everything postponed to the 24th regarding the arrival (in january rather than June) of Mellberg. Outgoing, Juve want to sell Tiago to Spurs, but he prefers Atletico Madrid, and thus is delaying the transfer
 

Wings

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marchionni is 27 or 28 and was always going to be a Camo back up.. a decent one though .. can't blame him for his injury problems

Palla is doing well for playing out of position and is sacrificing his performances for the good of the team and is willing to do what is asked of him. he is a striker not a LM or RM ..

Nocerino has done incredibly well after being thrown into the deep end as a starter for Juventus. He was never expected ot take such a key role in the team but with the failures of Tiago and Almiron he too has stepped up and provided our weakened defense with great cover. he is a work horse and is not an attacking mid


people are being way too harsh.. especially on the young players. What was Gatusso doing at Nocerio's age...


Our future is not as dark as many of you guys make it out to be
Didn't know Marchionni was that old. Who said Gatusso is talented? Oh and am always too critical after a pathetic performance. :)
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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YES! Almiron definitely deserve a chance. He showed some good sign against Sampdoria, even if he didn't play enough to judge. But seems he got injured, I hope it is not a serious thing.

About Nocerino, he did good at the start of the season, he needs more chances. But he proved that bringing in to the first team was a good move. Thou I share the same fear as Ali when he tackles, that's not a new concern.
Nocerino was good at the start of the season, yes, but he's been off for for the past month of matches at least. That's why he deserves to be benched at the moment. If Tiago and Almiron are benched after a mediocre performance, surely Nocerino should be benched after a few bad performances. That's only fair.

In my opinion Nocerino will have to improve his passing if he wants to be considered a starter for Juventus. It's utterly horrid and we keep losing chances because of his ineptness with the ball.

And 3 of those reached a Juventino.
Yes, which is why it's so hilarious. Having 38 crosses and just two goals, one from a corner, is a statistic that shows us the straight 4-4-2 is not working. Having 36 or so crosses not reaching their target is simply deplorable and this sort of thing must be remedied if we want to go anywhere this season. And the remedy is a change in tactics to something more fitting from something that doesn't make any sense with our current side... the straight 4-4-2.

people are being way too harsh.. especially on the young players. What was Gatusso doing at Nocerio's age...

Our future is not as dark as many of you guys make it out to be
No, we aren't being too harsh. Did you even watch the match today? Have you seen most of the performances this season? I have, and we have been flat our terrible since the end of October, barring the Palermo match.

We seemingly keep getting worse and worse and it's due to Ranieri's ineptness as a manager. What he has done the past few matches has put many people over the edge with his idiocy, and if it continues, he must be fired. There is no debate here. What he's been doing is completely foolish and it shows on the pitch.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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I think in this match I'll have to disagree with almost everyone here on couple of points. First I'll write what I thought about the game then I'll give my ratings.


Ranieri started a good formation and starting 11 comparing to the prev games. Now I don't really admire Ranieri nor I'm a fan of him, sure he's been making lot of mistakes and I'm one of the guys who have been bashing him really bad the last 10days.

But lets be honest little bit with ourselves, he didn't had many options did he?

-Nedved out
-Buffon out
-Sali out

apart from these 3players who were ruled out, we had to deal with injured players such as Mauro, Andrade and the list goes on.

Inter were playing one man less, yes thats right, but they didn't play better than us, we controlled the 1st half and almost the 2nd, they were better in finishing the goals, thanks to our circus man our golie and the defenders.

The most disgusting thing has to be, some fans in this forums celebrating Inter's 2-0 before we scored the two goals, just to see Ranieri sacked. That is really childish behaviour.

Btw, am I the only one who thinks that Birindelli is the one to be blamed for the 1st inter goal?

My ratings.

Belardi 4 (shouldn't play the game, he's awful and one game was enough to prove that)

Birindelli 5.5 (he was sharp in the first half and attacked pretty well with his crosses, his 2nd wasn't that good and he's to be blamed for the goal)

Legro 6 (I don't think he is to be blamed for the goal, he was pretty smart to get out of the offside system, Cruz was on Biri's side more, decent game IMO)

Grygera 5.5 (he looks very scared playing as CB, he can't pass well and can't focus)

Molinaro 6 (his 2nd half looked much better than his first one, he worked alot and ran pretty much)

Nocerino 4.5 (his passes and crosses are TERRIBLE, too bad that all the hard work he makes on the field isn't appreciated much unless he proves his goddamn crosses and passes. If he continues this way loan him NOW)

Zanetti 6.5 (Smart, intelligent, hard worked player. I admire him)

Palladino 4.5 (I hated zlatan for chewing the ball alot and not succeeding, Palladino is turning into another zlatan in this team, how many times he tried to dribble tonight when he had the chance to cross for david and Iaquinta? he was awful and terrible. He's talented yes, but I don't want him in our team if he continues with his show off style on the pitch)

Iaquinta 5 (I didn't like his performance that much, there was a moment where he could have passed the ball inside the penalty area instead of driblling when he isn't good in doing that)

Trezeguet 5.5 (It's obvious that him and Ale have been playing since some time now, they have good understanding, good pass David, other than that he didn't show up)

Del Piero 8.5 (God, I love our Captain, he's the soul the spirit the motor the HEART of this team, the real Captain, like jack said, he IS gold, he's made out of gold)

Boumsong 6.5 (for the goal)
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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I think the first goal was primarily Legro's fault as Cruz was able to pull away from him.

Biri should have seen this happening and made a better effort to cover.

I would say both made mistakes.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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guys. i couldnt watch the match because rai showed atalanta-milan. but as soon as i saw 2-2 iw as releived. to go down by two goals in the meazza and come back with the team we had on the pitch speaks a lot about this juve. their will to never give up is a amazing. ok were not the best team but if we can do that we will get our CL position, and next year hopefully much much more. well done to the boys, i dont care what mistakes they mad they all done well. and for all the shit we give boom boom he saved us.

FORZA JUVE!
 

Morra10

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Apr 30, 2006
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the first goal is belardi's fault. It's pretty simple actually, either you come out and charge the ball or you stay in the net. He came out half way, realized he couldn't get there, and just stopped. A smart goalie (i.e. buffon) would of stayed on his line and made the easy save. 1. He should of known cruz couldn't bring the ball down because legro would of stolen it from him and 2. cruz couldn't get a lot of power on that header because he was a bit off balance. That was just terrible goalkeeping.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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the first goal is belardi's fault. It's pretty simple actually, either you come out and charge the ball or you stay in the net. He came out half way, realized he couldn't get there, and just stopped. A smart goalie (i.e. buffon) would of stayed on his line and made the easy save. 1. He should of known cruz couldn't bring the ball down because legro would of stolen it from him and 2. cruz couldn't get a lot of power on that header because he was a bit off balance. That was just terrible goalkeeping.
Thats 100% correct. 90% his fault 10% Biri's.
 

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