Claudio Ranieri (47 Viewers)

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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Correction, Ranieri is the mediocre coach. Ferrara is not a coach at all. He fails at the very basic of coaching. Its flattering to call Ciro a coach, let alone compare even to a loser like Ranieri.

But to the rest, yes you are right. Ranieri's Roma were playing for the draw, even defending with numbers when losing, we outmatched them at this ineptude at the end.

The only noticable tactical thing he did was instructing long balls behind our defence, and prolly telling Riise to go far up as a left winger when we were 1 man down, to make unexpected runs while our players are star gazing not knowing who covers who. This was "decent" coaching. The rest he was fortunate in how things turned out, otherwise he would continued with the ridicolous charade of defending with numbers even when you are goal down.
I stand corrected. :tup:

fortunate??

14 games unbeaten in all competitions? FFS they have best record in Seria A.
They used to loose with 2-3 goal differences regularly. We laughed at Roma last season, but CR fixed that straight away.

And yes, he did say to Risse to play as an striker last 5 minutes, so it goes about, you dont have to make sub in order to change tactics etc..


CR has done great for Roma and i wish him good luck.

He was not coach for us and we all agree on that, but also to say that our Juve last season was never winning material anyway. Same with other teams he coached, apart from Chelsea, when he lost only to Arsenal who were unbeaten whole season.

I think he deserves much more respect then u guys are showing here.

Is he the most underrated coach around?

Probably yes..
You're pathetic.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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fortunate??

14 games unbeaten in all competitions? FFS they have best record in Seria A.
They used to loose with 2-3 goal differences regularly. We laughed at Roma last season, but CR fixed that straight away.

And yes, he did say to Risse to play as an striker last 5 minutes, so it goes about, you dont have to make sub in order to change tactics etc..


CR has done great for Roma and i wish him good luck.

He was not coach for us and we all agree on that, but also to say that our Juve last season was never winning material anyway. Same with other teams he coached, apart from Chelsea, when he lost only to Arsenal who were unbeaten whole season.

I think he deserves much more respect then u guys are showing here.

Is he the most underrated coach around?

Probably yes..
If your syccophancy premitted you to think for a second, you would realize I was talking about this match, and not his Roma tenure in overall. In THIS game, he doesnt deserve any credit based on the tactic simply being defend in numbers at all times basically, and hope for the best, the circusmtances handing the game back to his Roma, not his game changing tactics.

He has done a good job for Roma in improving them to a solid level (as I predicted in beforehand), and no he isnt underrated at all, he isnt bad coach, he is a limited and mediocre one when it comes to top level (Roma doesnt ask for more then making them solid top 4, we clearly do).
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Ranieri did nothing special in this particular game. From ball possession into tactics and of course using one or two from his subs and never three when his team is struggling.

1st goal came from an individual mistake thanks to Grosso, later on we were down to 10men and things were pretty predictable by then.

He didn't outplay Ciro IMO, both teams played boring football specially in the 1st half with slightly better chances for us.
 

Amaurisimo

Senior Member
Dec 8, 2007
4,622
Ranieri did nothing special in this particular game. From ball possession into tactics and of course using one or two from his subs and never three when his team is struggling.

1st goal came from an individual mistake thanks to Grosso, later on we were down to 10men and things were pretty predictable by then.

He didn't outplay Ciro IMO, both teams played boring football specially in the 1st half with slightly better chances for us.

I agree with you that we had much better 1st half but please tell me how did we score then? Was it ball deflected or?

And if Gigi did not make foul, would Rise have scored?

It all counts, individual mistakes, rain, ice pitch, sex night before the game
 

K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
Great job by Claudio. Took his team from the bottom half of the table to lead the Serie A! It'll be interesting to see if his side can win the championship after all.

I really wish Roma and Claudio the best of luck. I don't wanna see neither yet another Inter scudetto nor a Milan one.

Blanc and Gigli are burning deep inside right now.
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
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Great job by Claudio. Took his team from the bottom half of the table to lead the Serie A! It'll be interesting to see if his side can win the championship after all.

I really wish Roma and Claudio the best of luck. I don't wanna see neither yet another Inter scudetto nor a Milan one.

Blanc and Gigli are burning deep inside right now.
you forgot the resident Ranieri haters that are present here...
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
He is still a loser and a very stubborn coach. He is good enough for Roma, but was never big enough for Juve.

I do however wish him luck, because seeing Roma win the league is the lesser of 2 evils, in this case 3, if Milan are still in with a shout.
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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He is still a loser and a very stubborn coach. He is good enough for Roma, but was never big enough for Juve.

I do however wish him luck, because seeing Roma win the league is the lesser of 2 evils, in this case 3, if Milan are still in with a shout.
yea, the Scudetto he wins with Roma now will be inferior to a Juve Scudetto triumph...:rolleyes:
 
Mar 10, 2009
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of course ranieri was juve material, the problem is that us Juve fans thought our team was like world class last year.

Ranieri as coach is good, no Lippi, but good enough to do a reasonable job for juve.

But sacking him wasnt the problem, sacking him and replacing him with crap is our main problem.

Of course ranieri is gonna look even better, considering his successors are a pile of trash, but as a coach he pretty good.
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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of course ranieri was juve material, the problem is that us Juve fans thought our team was like world class last year.

Ranieri as coach is good, no Lippi, but good enough to do a reasonable job for juve.

But sacking him wasnt the problem, sacking him and replacing him with crap is our main problem.

Of course ranieri is gonna look even better, considering his successors are a pile of trash, but as a coach he pretty good.
It would have been interesting to see what he would have done with this particular squad...the ones he was in charge of were never really Scudetto-winning ones...but unfortunately he could not arrest the downward spiral we were near the end of last season.
 

v1rtu4l

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2008
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It would have been interesting to see what he would have done with this particular squad...the ones he was in charge of were never really Scudetto-winning ones...but unfortunately he could not arrest the downward spiral we were near the end of last season.
i think a big problem was that he had not the total backing of the board.

no coach can tell some stars to shut the fuck up and eat dirt on the pitch, if the stars know that if it comes to a decision between them and the coach, the board will opt for the (old) stars.

while nedved might be a very professional player with an excellent work attitude, i think some others might have got bored/tired of the demands of the coach who demands a high work rate from them on the pitch and this there was surely some fail out.

its clear that a board without knowledge of football does not know how to handle those situations correct. had the board backed ranieri in the time of "crisis" and said "listen players ... no matter who much you do earn here... if you don't follow the coach, you will be frozen out of the squad and train with the primavera and can already pack your bags for the end of the season." i believe that would have been a totally other story ... but on the other side ... players like trezeguet and camo did want to leave anyways so they might as well enjoy training with the primavera and having off-sundays.

it is comparable to the situation at inter with balotelli ... do you think its mourinho man management skill that deals that good with balotelli or adriano before ... no, if moratti had thought higher of adriano and it wasn't mourinho in charge (who earns very much there) but another coach he might as well fire the coach to keep his prized asset happy.

its not about a coach having balls or not ... a coach with balls gets fired... its the board that has to make clear that its 100% behind the coach and not behind some pantsy players that bitch around when they need to work on the pitch
 

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