Claudio Marchisio (33 Viewers)

[ZoSo]

It's like he was never injured

 

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[Zacheryah]

Worst?

I saw him fresher than ever. The guy got like revitalized.

He's barely sprinting. He'll be better and more effective once he can move as he likes

 

[Fr3sh]

Regista Marchisio or 2011-12 Pirlo?

Regista Marchisio

 

[Seven]

He was our best midfielder in the CL final season. Just remember how we all went berserk once they reported that he got a bad injury with the NT just before the CL quarters that year. In Vidal's and Pirlo's worst seasons with Juve, he was the main guy.

Something similar happened at the start of last season. He played only 1 and a half matches during that disastrous start we had until late October and we got fixed once he came back.

We can't rely on him so much.

We can't. It's stupid that our star studded team still completely depends on this guy.

It's also why I think buying Pjanic was a silly move. I guess we did so just to piss off Roma.

 

[Zacheryah]

Regista Marchisio or 2011-12 Pirlo?

I'll go with Marchisio

 

[Ocelot]

Regista Marchisio or 2011-12 Pirlo?

Really depends on the players around him.

With our current midfield for example, Pirlo would be horrible.

With the midfield we had back then...probably a bit in favour of Pirlo.

 

[Osman]

Its not just a bit, its in Pirlo's favour by some margin. Pirlo was pretty much half our team then with what, 15 assists? He could unlock any situation that season. Plus match winner with freekicks. Marchisio is world class organiser, but Pirlo is just flat out legendary regista and possibly had his best season that season. I guess we took Pirlo for granted we seriously ask that question right now.

 

[PedroFlu]

Its not just a bit, its in Pirlo's favour by some margin. Pirlo was pretty much half our team then with what, 15 assists? He could unlock any situation that season. Plus match winner with freekicks. Marchisio is world class organiser, but Pirlo is just flat out legendary regista and possibly had his best season that season. I guess we took Pirlo for granted we seriously ask that question right now.

This. It's because Pirlo's last season was very, very poor, actually. He was straight up detrimental to the team most of times. The season before was decent to average.

Pirlo's first 2 seasons, specially 11-12, though, were a thing of beauty. He is being taken for granted.

Marchisio is spectacular as a regista, definitely world class, but Pirlo 11-12 is all time class.

 

[Ocelot]

Very very poor is an exaggeration, he was still a good player but simply not quite up to the task physically anymore.

And yeah you're probably right Osman.

 

[Cerval]

Very very poor is an exaggeration, he was still a good player but simply not quite up to the task physically anymore.

And yeah you're probably right Osman.

I think he means in terms of giveaway, not his general play.

 

[Lapa]

Really depends on the players around him.

With our current midfield for example, Pirlo would be horrible.

With the midfield we had back then...probably a bit in favour of Pirlo.

 

[Zacheryah]

Its not just a bit, its in Pirlo's favour by some margin. Pirlo was pretty much half our team then with what, 15 assists? He could unlock any situation that season. Plus match winner with freekicks. Marchisio is world class organiser, but Pirlo is just flat out legendary regista and possibly had his best season that season. I guess we took Pirlo for granted we seriously ask that question right now.

Pirlo was not remotely as good as he was during his prime at Milan...

 

[PedroFlu]

Very very poor is an exaggeration, he was still a good player but simply not quite up to the task physically anymore.

And yeah you're probably right Osman.

Actually I mean overall play. He was playing poorly, that's all. Slowing the team passing, didn't have enough stamina to defend.

But it was just that last season.

 

[Osman]

He didn't have as much central focus role as he did with us in Milan at his best playing behind Kaka, next to Seedorf etc. Allways been a genius. But with us in first season you could see see his full artistry taking the reigns for everything.

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[ALC]

Pirlo was not remotely as good as he was during his prime at Milan...

He was up there, it was his twilight years and he killed it even with Italy. Definitely primeime years imo

 

[Zacheryah]

He didn't have as much central focus role as he did with us in Milan at his best playing behind Kaka, next to Seedorf etc. Allways been a genius. But with us in first season you could see see his full artistry taking the reigns for everything.

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I agree fully with that.

But when looking at consecutive CL final + world cup winning pirlo. He was (much) faster, sharper, more agile, quicker in executions, much less liable etc.
No, he couldnt stand out as much as he was surrounded by other players who stood out on various technical levels. But he was better

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He was up there, it was his twilight years and he killed it even with Italy. Definitely primeime years imo

That Pirlo was shockingly underrated everywhere. Everyone talks about the CAM (Rui Costa, Kaka, Totti) but Pirlo offered so incredibly much that so many missed


I'm happy he came to juventus and made people realise how amazing he was despite the age

 

[PedroFlu]

I can't think of a better season from Pirlo than 11/12, in terms of quality of play and how perfect was the regista position for his game.

To me his peak was in that season.

 

[Zacheryah]

I compare it a bit with the juventini love for Marchisio, where as outsiders are like "claudio who ? you mean pirlo and vidal right"


Just not as extreme, its pirlo after all, does loads of stuff that gets noticed despite beeing in that insane team

 

[ALC]

I can't think of a better season from Pirlo than 11/12, in terms of quality of play and how perfect was the regista position for his game.

To me his peak was in that season.

I agree, a lot of players in that position have their best years right before they retire and I think those couple years were Pirlo's best.

 

[il brutto]

Somehow he got better during his injury. The difference in the team when he came on was massive

He really didn't, people just see the difference when he's on the pitch more clearly now.