++ [ originally posted by CimBomBom ] ++
First of all I wanna congratulate you all for the win..
i just wanted to point something, if thats really what you are generally thinking or this is only Hydde's opinion??
To be honest, I haven't watched all the game yesterday.. but even if I hadn't watched anything, I couldn't have believed that so.. Cause the decisions of any referee (just except Collina for me) are out of honesty in last couple of years.. I can say mostly after Champions League started.. And I barely see any mistakes by referees to big clubs including Juventus when they play against smaller clubs.. for a long time, I haven't seen any big mistakes happened to a big club while they were playing against smaller ones.. but on the other hand, the opposite happens in every match day.. like Austrian team GAK against Ajax this year was the most obvious mistakes to make Ajax thorugh the CL (which I believe the match's result was in referee's mind much before).. or Dortmund-Brugge match... German play against Belgium team and the referee is from English.. ones who have watched these matches this year would understand what I mean.. After CL starts; I had watched B.München-Celtic.. that was embrassing judge from referee too..with that referee Celtic had no chance to win even if they play 2 days 2 nights... and Celtic had played the way much much better against B.München.. so hwen these kinds of teams play against big names, the thing you can want most is that the referee would be fair... because there is no way, referees make big mistakes against big teams.. this happens once a whilein between.. The first group matches for example, for me the referee of Juve-GS match was really surprisingly so good.. didnt effect the match a bit... Juve played better and deserved the win.. but yesterday.... i think here I have a disaggrement.. If Juve won yesterday, you should have thanked to referee first and then Nedved.. but what i see here that you complain about referees which I couldnt believe my eyes.. is that because, you are used to have a judgement like who supports Juve more?? Before olympiakos's goal, (for me) there was a penalty.. and another thing, second half, Djordevic's position... it had nothing to do with offside, bit there was a flag.. it would be one to one.. that makes 2 possible goals and effects match all the way.. normal conditions, if offside position didnt have stopped, then they would ahead 2-1, and match would become much harder for Juve.. maybe you would be happy for a draw after that..
I mean these kind of mistakes can happen to any team.. but somehow 90% of them happens to be for the good of big clubs.. and when I see that you are complaining about the referees, then what should others do?? all Olympiakos, GAK, Celtic, Galatasaray and many others should walk to UEFA?? please try to look the games a bit more objectively.. what i feel, it is not going to be sport anymore anyway... which clubs' presidents' companies sponsor the CL, they have much FAIR (!) referees in their games.. thats the way it looks to us for years.. dont go so far, just go a bit north to Austria, ask them they will tell you what I tell.. Do you think Real is really the best team in last couple of years because they had many titles??? just watch any Real matches in Europe, then you understand what I mean.. show me one single mistake that makes Real lose points.. but listen them, they say they always win against referee too... thats really sooo unbelievably funny...
But anyway, congratulations you all for yesterday.. and good luck in your trophy next rounds..
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