[CL] Maccabi Haifa 0-1 Juventus, Nov 3rd, 2009 (70 Viewers)

[Stephan]

We will have to play on Thursdays then and will be too tired in weekends. Lets just loose all the remaining games and let Maccabi take the uefa cup spot also. Then we can concentrate on making the 2nd place in Serie A.

 

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[JCK]

We will have to play on Thursdays then and will be too tired in weekends. Lets just loose all the remaining games and let Maccabi take the uefa cup spot also.

Well it doesn't matter in Italy, we have absolutely no chance of doing anything.

 

[Snoop]

I think it's better we go out to the UEFA cup, maybe we have a chance to go further instead of getting humiliated in the second round.

If we go there we will win more points for sure, but less money. Which one you prefer?

 

[Stephan]

I still think we will loose more games in league because of fitness then. There is always the question of how much to we care about the mickey mouse cup anyway.

And i am interested to finish at least second in the league.

 

[JCK]

If we go there we will win more points for sure, but less money. Which one you prefer?

How much less money?

I think it's good if Alen calculates that.

If we advance to the second round in the CL, I see us playing at most two matches and then leave the tournament. How much money will we gain for that?

And how far we should go in Europa League to break even with the CL money?

 

[Snoop]

We will have to play on Thursdays then and will be too tired in weekends. Lets just loose all the remaining games and let Maccabi take the uefa cup spot also. Then we can concentrate on making the 2nd place in Serie A.

But if we play in UEFA, we can play with Tiago, Poulsen, Molinaro, Grygera , Chimenti. It might turn to a nice marketing campaign, who knows maybe they impress and we get the attention of Red Bull Salzburg, Sheriff Tiraspol, Puntigamer Sturm Graz, Hapoel Tel-Aviv, Ventspils, Timisoara and the rest.

 

[Snoop]

How much less money?

I think it's good if Alen calculates that.

If we advance to the second round in the CL, I see us playing at most two matches and then leave the tournament. How much money will we gain for that?

And how far we should go in Europa League to break even with the CL money?

I am not sure but I think it must be around 10 million, as for UEFA even if go further than the final we won't make half of that money we will win from qualifying to the second round in CL.

 

[Stephan]

How much less money?

I think it's good if Alen calculates that.

If we advance to the second round in the CL, I see us playing at most two matches and then leave the tournament. How much money will we gain for that?

And how far we should go in Europa League to break even with the CL money?

In 2007:

Champions League prize money
AC Milan (winners) £26,721,694
Chelsea £23,394,444
Liverpool £21,744,696
Manchester United £21,282,373
Arsenal £13,008,610

UEFA Cup prize money
Sevilla (winners) £4,219,587
Tottenham £2,917,724
Newcastle £303,758

 

[Stephan]

This is what i found when i googled Jack.

We’re heading into a new season of European football, which for most people really only means Champions League football. The big question ahead of every Champions League season is of course not who wins it – Stuttgart won’t, Wolfsburg won’t and most probably Bayern won’t either so why bother – but who earns how much. The good news for all participating clubs is, that you once again earn more than in the previous season. For shits and giggles I also included the Europa League to see if it’s still as much of a financial joke as the UEFA Cup (Spoiler Alert: it is).

Bonuses Champions League 2008/2009 – 2009/2010
Group Stage (fixed): €5.4m – €7.1m
Group Stage Victory: €600k – €800k
Group Stage Draw: €300k – €400k
Round of 16: €2.2m – €3m
Quarterfinal: €2.5m – €3.3m
Semifinal: €3m – €4m
Losing Finalist: €4m – €5.2m
Winner: €7m – €9m
Theoretical Maximum: €23.7m – €31.2m

Bonuses UEFA Cup/Europa League 2008/2009 – 2009/2010
Group Stage (fixed): €115k – €900k
Group Stage Victory: €40k – €120k
Group Stage Draw: €20k – €60k
Round of 32: €70k – €180k
Round of 16: €70k – €270k
Quarterfinal: €300k – €360k
Semifinal: €600k – €630k
Losing Finalist: €1.5m – €2m
Winner: €2.5m – €3m
Theoretical Maximum: €3.815m (CL 6.2x more) – €6.06m (CL 5.1x more)

Now, I was probably a bit harsh on the Europa League. The early stages of the competition have been boosted quite a bit, while the quarter- and semifinal bonuses remained virtually untouched. The new group stage also means three guaranteed home games compared to two in the old UEFA Cup. The gap between the two European competitions remains immense though and is further widened with the help of the somewhat complicated market pool.

 

[Salvatore]

Screw the UEFA cup, we just last season were laughing at Milan for competing in that.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

JCK, Snoop and Stephan stop it for god sake it is not funny anymore I almost have tears in my eyes

 

[Stephan]

We earn same when we win the uefa cup as if we would advance to next round in CL.

 

[JCK]

JCK, Snoop and Stephan stop it for god sake it is not funny anymore I almost have tears in my eyes

What is not funny?

I want to see those members who laugh at Milan to show up now. We are the laughing stock of Serie A. As Vinman said, we have played only two matches the whole season.

We earn same when we win the uefa cup as if we would advance to next round in CL.

And that is good, at least we'll bring in silverware and get back to learning how to win tournaments.

 

[Stephan]

But if we play in UEFA, we can play with Tiago, Poulsen, Molinaro, Grygera , Chimenti. It might turn to a nice marketing campaign, who knows maybe they impress and we get the attention of Red Bull Salzburg, Sheriff Tiraspol, Puntigamer Sturm Graz, Hapoel Tel-Aviv, Ventspils, Timisoara and the rest.

Yeah, Tiago rejected Tottenham, theres no way he will go to Ventspils.

 

[K.O.]

We’re heading into a new season of European football, which for most people really only means Champions League football. The big question ahead of every Champions League season is of course not who wins it – Stuttgart won’t, Wolfsburg won’t and most probably Bayern won’t either so why bother – but who earns how much. The good news for all participating clubs is, that you once again earn more than in the previous season. For shits and giggles I also included the Europa League to see if it’s still as much of a financial joke as the UEFA Cup (Spoiler Alert: it is).

Bonuses Champions League 2008/2009 – 2009/2010
Group Stage (fixed): €5.4m – €7.1m
Group Stage Victory: €600k – €800k
Group Stage Draw: €300k – €400k
Round of 16: €2.2m – €3m
Quarterfinal: €2.5m – €3.3m
Semifinal: €3m – €4m
Losing Finalist: €4m – €5.2m
Winner: €7m – €9m
Theoretical Maximum: €23.7m – €31.2m

Bonuses UEFA Cup/Europa League 2008/2009 – 2009/2010
Group Stage (fixed): €115k – €900k
Group Stage Victory: €40k – €120k
Group Stage Draw: €20k – €60k
Round of 32: €70k – €180k
Round of 16: €70k – €270k
Quarterfinal: €300k – €360k
Semifinal: €600k – €630k
Losing Finalist: €1.5m – €2m
Winner: €2.5m – €3m
Theoretical Maximum: €3.815m (CL 6.2x more) – €6.06m (CL 5.1x more)

Now, I was probably a bit harsh on the Europa League. The early stages of the competition have been boosted quite a bit, while the quarter- and semifinal bonuses remained virtually untouched. The new group stage also means three guaranteed home games compared to two in the old UEFA Cup. The gap between the two European competitions remains immense though and is further widened with the help of the somewhat complicated market pool.

So, basically: getting to the 16 round in CL = winning the europa league?

 

[DelpieroForLife]

Yeah, Tiago rejected Tottenham, theres no way he will go to Ventspils.

Tiago has every right to reject Them, Tottenham would have screwed his ballerina career.

 

[Stephan]

Besides we will have enough injures and will get even more. Then we will have matchdays on Thursdays, we will have to travel back and have less time to prepare for weekend matches. And that will affect our finish in league also. (Screw inter, it would s--k if Samp, Milan, Viola would get more money also with a better finish, add to that potentially better money from europe also.

Milan can literally f--k up in first knockouts, we would have to sweat to win the uefa cup to get as much money.

 

[Snoop]

Yeah, Tiago rejected Tottenham, theres no way he will go to Ventspils.

You think Ventspils is dying to sign him? I am sure they wouldn't even sign him for free..

 

[Stephan]

You think Ventspils is dying to sign him? I am sure they wouldn't even sign him for free..

Then whats the point of "marketing" with him in Uefa cup.

Besides Momo or Camo will be injured again in spring and we would have to play Poulsen and Tiago in uefa cup AND league.

 

[Alen]

but seriously, I am sure Maccabi will score against us. I will go all in for that bet.

1.66 offered for Maccabi to score at least one goal.
I have 1.85 for both teams to score.