[CL] Champions League 2010/11 (19 Viewers)
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Then the Elkans are your men.
They kept quiet during Calciopoli and didn't complain when their team was robbed.
I'm still waiting to hear from you about the help Barca are getting from the referees, not only when they play against Mourinho. You remain one of the few here who never says a word about the blatant help Barca enjoys.
They kept quiet during Calciopoli and didn't complain when their team was robbed.
I'm still waiting to hear from you about the help Barca are getting from the referees, not only when they play against Mourinho. You remain one of the few here who never says a word about the blatant help Barca enjoys.
They are receving help, but I don't see it as some grand conspiracy. Real Madrid, along with Man United, are the most popular clubs in world football and they would have a lot of pull over officials if bribing was part of the game. Zizou, from his time at the supposed cheating Juventus, would surely cook something up for his Madrid side with all his friends at UEFA. Platini, the supposed English football-hater, would have provided some help to Italian sides, especially Juventus over the past few years.
Who has more pull than those guys at Barcelona? You see, you have to provide actual evidence of sporting fraud, and that doesn't simply entail poor calls made by human beings. Again, this all sounds familiar to the groundless claims of Calciopoli.
That said, I've stated several times in this thread how I find the Barca play-acting to be disgusting, and it is. Something needs to be done about it, including Busquets being taken out back and raped.
Who has more pull than those guys at Barcelona? You see, you have to provide actual evidence of sporting fraud, and that doesn't simply entail poor calls made by human beings. Again, this all sounds familiar to the groundless claims of Calciopoli.
That said, I've stated several times in this thread how I find the Barca play-acting to be disgusting, and it is. Something needs to be done about it, including Busquets being taken out back and raped.
Do you then see it as a coincidence that the "poor calls made by human beings" are happening so often on Barca matches and in their favor? I challenge you to find 2 such cases in the last years in CL knockouts where the managers were angry at the referee and blamed him for their defeat, which didn't include Barcelona.
You say that Mourinho is the drama queen here who exaggerated and looks for an alibi, but in the last 4 years, only in the CL knockouts, Ancelotti, Hiddink and Wenger were fuming too at how the referees robbed their teams when they played Barca. Mourinho is just another one on the list.
Even normal people didn't blame this on UEFA in the past, simply because there were no grounds to blame UEFA after one or two matches. But now we have more data, more reasons to suspect that Barca getting so much help in decisive moments of the matches isn't a simple coincidence and "poor judgement by a human being".
Personally, my suspicions started after Chelsea-Barca, they were growing bigger after Motta's red card and I was convinced when three Barca and 0 treble winning team players made the ballon d'or list. Van Persie's red and the help Barca got against Real were simply confirming what I was thinking.
But for some here, obviously, Platini himself can admit that they were helping Barca on purpose, and they still won't believe it.
You say that Mourinho is the drama queen here who exaggerated and looks for an alibi, but in the last 4 years, only in the CL knockouts, Ancelotti, Hiddink and Wenger were fuming too at how the referees robbed their teams when they played Barca. Mourinho is just another one on the list.
Even normal people didn't blame this on UEFA in the past, simply because there were no grounds to blame UEFA after one or two matches. But now we have more data, more reasons to suspect that Barca getting so much help in decisive moments of the matches isn't a simple coincidence and "poor judgement by a human being".
Personally, my suspicions started after Chelsea-Barca, they were growing bigger after Motta's red card and I was convinced when three Barca and 0 treble winning team players made the ballon d'or list. Van Persie's red and the help Barca got against Real were simply confirming what I was thinking.
But for some here, obviously, Platini himself can admit that they were helping Barca on purpose, and they still won't believe it.
