Ciro Immobile (12 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

If it weren't for the co-ownership, he would have been rotting on our bench last season and we wouldn't be having this conversation

Loan.

 

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[Turk_Bianconero]

And some wonder why some of us dislike co-ownerships and loans. The examples on how terrible these deals are endless.

Apparently it is a trick invented by our genious Marotta and it works in our favour.

 

[Hust]

And some wonder why some of us dislike co-ownerships and loans. The examples on how terrible these deals are endless.

Have never liked them. EVER.

People will always make excuses for them.


We never get them back. And when we can, they don't want to because they feel like Juventus didn't treat them well. Why would they want to come back when other clubs are interested and gave them opportunities?

 

[Bartolo]

I hope we meet Dortmund in the R16 and immobile puts 3 past us

 

[TrezJuve]

I hope we meet Dortmund in the R16 and immobile puts 3 past us

One -rep for you, one.

 

[Hust]

I hope we meet Dortmund in the R16 and immobile puts 3 past us

Ban. ^

 

[Xperd]

we're paying Torino 0,5m to get rid of Immobile?

We'll redeem Immobile from Torino for say 9-10m,which means he'll be fully owned by us.We'll then sell him to Dortmund for 19.5m euros which then can be reinvested into a new player.We should not look at how much we gain from the deal but how much we have in hand i.e 19.5m euros once he's sold to BVB.

Like somebody said,the difference between selling and not selling Immobile is 20m.

 

[jukazem]

If it weren't for the co-ownership, he would have been rotting on our bench last season and we wouldn't be having this conversation

option to buy + option to buy back for fixed amounts can create situation similar to co-owns but with a lot more certainty. Juve had very little control over Immobile in this co-own situation imo. negotiations between 3 clubs over 1 player had made many transfers very difficult in the past few seasons.

 

[Bartolo]

I have the right to be upset

 

[Hust]

*AMBER ALERT*

Spoiler

 

[Dostoevsky]

We'll redeem Immobile from Torino for say 9-10m,which means he'll be fully owned by us.We'll then sell him to Dortmund for 19.5m euros which then can be reinvested into a new player.We should not look at how much we gain from the deal but how much we have in hand i.e 19.5m euros once he's sold to BVB.

Like somebody said,the difference between selling and not selling Immobile is 20m.

What? You make it sound like we're gaining 19.5mln from the transfer, which we aren't.

We can even take a bank loan to get 9mln, then buy him. After selling him we're gonna have 50% of that at our disposal.

 

[Hust]

We'll redeem Immobile from Torino for say 9-10m,which means he'll be fully owned by us.We'll then sell him to Dortmund for 19.5m euros which then can be reinvested into a new player.We should not look at how much we gain from the deal but how much we have in hand i.e 19.5m euros once he's sold to BVB.

Like somebody said,the difference between selling and not selling Immobile is 20m.

19.5-9-10m = 9.5-10 to invest. Not that much. We could have sold Mirko and Quag to give us that, get their salaries off the books and keep Ciro as a fantastic squad player and use that money to invest in other ways.

 

[Xperd]

option to buy + option to buy back for fixed amounts can create situation similar to co-owns but with a lot more certainty. Juve had very little control over Immobile in this co-own situation imo. negotiations between 3 clubs over 1 player had made many transfers very difficult in the past few seasons.

And that is why its getting abolished thankfully.It complicated transfer deals a bit too much.I'm sure there are ready solutions to tackle the absence of co-ownerships like the buyback clause you mentioned for example.

 

[Hust]

What? You make it sound like we're gaining 19.5mln from the transfer, which we aren't.

We can even take a bank loan to get 9mln, then buy him. After selling him we're gonna have 50% of that at our disposal.

Math. So elusive for some.

 

[Xperd]

19.5-9-10m = 9.5-10 to invest. Not that much. We could have sold Mirko and Quag to give us that, get their salaries off the books and keep Ciro as a fantastic squad player and use that money to invest in other ways.

In like 2-3 installments for a lowass fee.Dortmund on the other hand i believe are ready to pay this fee in a single installment which makes a difference,its all about dat liquid cash so i could see why we could be pushing for this deal.

But what do i know,this is how i interpreted it.All a speculation ofcourse.Hardly anything to do with math calculations mate.

 

[icemaη]

19.5-9-10m = 9.5-10 to invest. Not that much. We could have sold Mirko and Quag to give us that, get their salaries off the books and keep Ciro as a fantastic squad player and use that money to invest in other ways.

Except Immobile wouldn't want to be a squad player. He's getting into his prime and he knows he ain't gonna bench Tevez or Llorente. Plus we insult Napoli, which apparently he doesn't like.

 

[Hust]

Except Immobile wouldn't want to be a squad player. He's getting into his prime and he knows he ain't gonna bench Tevez or Llorente. Plus we insult Napoli, which apparently he doesn't like.

And how do we know he wouldn't have benched Llorente? I mean if we want to get back to the pre 2006 level when players like Llorente sat the bench.

Is it that far-fetched?

 

[j0ker]

Except Immobile wouldn't want to be a squad player. He's getting into his prime and he knows he ain't gonna bench Tevez or Llorente. Plus we insult Napoli, which apparently he doesn't like.

And the way Conte uses his strikers by make playing with the back to the goal, Immobile doesn't fit.

 

[Hust]

And the way Conte uses his strikers by make playing with the back to the goal, Immobile doesn't fit.

In a 352. Not sure that would have been the case in a 433.

 

[icemaη]

And how do we know he wouldn't have benched Llorente? I mean if we want to get back to the pre 2006 level when players like Llorente sat the bench.

Is it that far-fetched?

We are not talking about the future, we are talking about the present. Right now Tevez and Llorente are our starters. That may or may not change in the future. However if we goes to BvB he walks into their starting lineup. We can't guarantee him a spot in the starting 11, they can.