A sign of a manager refusing to admit his mistakes. Stop looking for scapegoats Ciro.
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I wish we go back in time to June 2009, not to appoint the right man for this job, but just to prevent my ears from hearing all those juventinis disrespecting a great man like Ciro Ferrara :depressed
Again, even though, it's not totally Ciro's fault, people just direct all the anger at him. Did he ask Sissoko to misplace simple passes, Amauri to lose possession of every ball he gets, Cannavaro and Legro to lose their man so often, Grosso, Tiago, Melo, PDC ... etc. Did he ask the medical staff to make a record with the number of injuries?
I'm not saying Ciro is not to be blamed, he's partially blamed of course but people should realize that football is a team sport. Pay some respect and make your points clear without dishonoring the man.
Shame.
Again, even though, it's not totally Ciro's fault, people just direct all the anger at him. Did he ask Sissoko to misplace simple passes, Amauri to lose possession of every ball he gets, Cannavaro and Legro to lose their man so often, Grosso, Tiago, Melo, PDC ... etc. Did he ask the medical staff to make a record with the number of injuries?
I'm not saying Ciro is not to be blamed, he's partially blamed of course but people should realize that football is a team sport. Pay some respect and make your points clear without dishonoring the man.
Shame.
Nobody has a clue what to do anymore not ciro, the players or the board.. its downhill, till god knows when.
Good to see someone understanding the meaning of a team sport. It's just silly to point the finger at one guy in such situations. Il Capitano himself said that the whole team is to blame and the whole team needs to get out of this shithole. We can only blame some more than others and imo the board deserves more blame than the rest.
I agree that it's not totally Ferrara's fault, but he deserves to be criticised. After all, as a coach he is responsible for the performance of the team.
He did not, but his tatical inept make these happened. We all know that making complicated passes is not the strength of Sissoko and Melo, so if he is a good coach he should have told them to make simple passes. And if they did not follow his advices, he can just bench them. He is the coach FFS.
As to Canna and Legro, the way we play defense would always expose dangerous holes in the defense line and again that is Ciro's fault for not being able to fix that tactical suicide.
Of course no coach would do that, but as the head coach, he is responsible for all fitness training / recovery programmes. After all he is the one who approves the medical staff as well as all fitness/physiotheraphy treatments/trainings.
Yes football is a team sport and the role of a coach is to make all players to play as a team, not as headless chickens running without any clue in the field. Ciro failed to do that, so he is the one to be blamed, as are others. OK?
He did not, but his tatical inept make these happened. We all know that making complicated passes is not the strength of Sissoko and Melo, so if he is a good coach he should have told them to make simple passes. And if they did not follow his advices, he can just bench them. He is the coach FFS.
As to Canna and Legro, the way we play defense would always expose dangerous holes in the defense line and again that is Ciro's fault for not being able to fix that tactical suicide.
Of course no coach would do that, but as the head coach, he is responsible for all fitness training / recovery programmes. After all he is the one who approves the medical staff as well as all fitness/physiotheraphy treatments/trainings.
Yes football is a team sport and the role of a coach is to make all players to play as a team, not as headless chickens running without any clue in the field. Ciro failed to do that, so he is the one to be blamed, as are others. OK?
I assume you're the one who -rep me without writing his name. I advise you to understand the post before replying and giving -reps.
Did I say don't criticize Ciro? Or do not Insult the man?
@ him responsible for the fitness training! And, No, the coach, at least in Italy, doesn't choose the medical staff! Do you know what really happens in training or you just play FM all the time?
Grow up.
Did I say don't criticize Ciro? Or do not Insult the man?
@ him responsible for the fitness training! And, No, the coach, at least in Italy, doesn't choose the medical staff! Do you know what really happens in training or you just play FM all the time?Grow up.
I love you Ciro, but please leave the old lady for the best, we really need a change
he's not fully responsible for the bad results, he's just one factor, but sometimes changing that one factor changes everything, look at last year's Chelsea
but we don't have a "Ballack" to lead the players against their coach
he's not fully responsible for the bad results, he's just one factor, but sometimes changing that one factor changes everything, look at last year's Chelsea
but we don't have a "Ballack" to lead the players against their coach
Any Manager at a decent club, must surely have some say in the fitness regimes of his players. ESPECIALLY if they are consistently picking up injuries. Its illogical to suggest that the medical staff do more than advise and treat. The fitness coaches advise and train. The manager oversees everything, from diet, to training, to tactics, to recovery...indeed, he likely doesn't set the schedules, but MUST SURELY BE CONSULTED by all involved before any treatment is given.
Its bothers me, a little, how so many people on these boards seem so eager to defend Ciro...and focus more on the Board as the culprits of our demise. When it is the actual performance levels of the team, which is hurting us all, and before anyone can reach to the board for blame, they have to go through Ciro...True, blanc and secco are wretched, but they did okay over the last year OTHER THAN SACKING CIRO BEFORE XMAS.
I can not blame Blanc for our tactical patheticness, or for the injuries, or for the lack of spirit and heart in the team. They are all Ciro's responsibilities...Club legend or not, they are the jobs of a manager.
I have a half decent idea of how a football club is run, and a decent manager makes himself aware of EVERYTHING to do with his players...this may be as little as a dietician suggesting to the manager 'lets try this XXXX diet, for XXXXX...i think it will help him, because of XXXX' and the manager says...Yes or No.
Its a lot of work for one man, which is why assistant managers are SO IMPORTANT. Who is Ciro's assistant??? Does he even have one???Or just a few coaches to train the players how CIRO wants them trained?
Its bothers me, a little, how so many people on these boards seem so eager to defend Ciro...and focus more on the Board as the culprits of our demise. When it is the actual performance levels of the team, which is hurting us all, and before anyone can reach to the board for blame, they have to go through Ciro...True, blanc and secco are wretched, but they did okay over the last year OTHER THAN SACKING CIRO BEFORE XMAS.
I can not blame Blanc for our tactical patheticness, or for the injuries, or for the lack of spirit and heart in the team. They are all Ciro's responsibilities...Club legend or not, they are the jobs of a manager.
I have a half decent idea of how a football club is run, and a decent manager makes himself aware of EVERYTHING to do with his players...this may be as little as a dietician suggesting to the manager 'lets try this XXXX diet, for XXXXX...i think it will help him, because of XXXX' and the manager says...Yes or No.
Its a lot of work for one man, which is why assistant managers are SO IMPORTANT. Who is Ciro's assistant??? Does he even have one???Or just a few coaches to train the players how CIRO wants them trained?
with Ciro or not I can only see us getting 25-29 more points this season and finish in Europa League places ( hopefully )... so we have to take the situation as it is and hope that we do not lose any major players so we could attempt to redeem ourselves next season..
whatever the plan is I really hope and expect that the owners step up and straighten things out.. it's obvious that there is a plan be it a failure or not and sometimes shit just happens.. I mean we made it to 3rd and 2nd until this major jump backwards so we were on to something... of course the board could have avoided this all whole situation and it proves that some of them are not qualified for their job but what's done is done.. hopefully the owners or at least someone with power makes the right changes ASAP and lead us back to where we belong at the top..
I support the shirt, the colors, the real fans and the legacy, not these clowns "running" the club.. the only way out is through, FORZA JUVENTUS! :flag1:
whatever the plan is I really hope and expect that the owners step up and straighten things out.. it's obvious that there is a plan be it a failure or not and sometimes shit just happens.. I mean we made it to 3rd and 2nd until this major jump backwards so we were on to something... of course the board could have avoided this all whole situation and it proves that some of them are not qualified for their job but what's done is done.. hopefully the owners or at least someone with power makes the right changes ASAP and lead us back to where we belong at the top..
I support the shirt, the colors, the real fans and the legacy, not these clowns "running" the club.. the only way out is through, FORZA JUVENTUS! :flag1: