blanc wants to keep him why? 
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Ciro Ferrara (60 Viewers)
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Don't ask me. If we don't get rid of this sad bastard soon we may not even have CL football next season and with that revenue stream lost then we would truly be in dire straits.
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Neither you, nor I, teeth, have total truth on this matter. All we can do, is state what we have perceived, witnessed, felt and concluded. Our OWN versions of The Cause of our woes. Its fair enough for you to find my opinions nonsensical, even irritating. But its an error on your part to fail to show humility in your debating. To a man of sound intellect, rather than...I will say 'anything else'; I have as much Right to state my view, as you have to contest it. So, in layman's talk, which you appear to be subliminally requesting, NEITHER OF US HAVE TRUTH...ON THIS FORUM WE BOTH HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS OUR VIEW ON THE TRUTH. I am sure you are gathering the gist of this, teeth.
What you see as courage, I see as a warped sense of loyalty which is not pure, but riddled with egomania...
Ciro showing respect to the club, is besides the point, unless we are talking about how JUVE as a club are treating him. And that story, if we are to focus on it, only serves to pour rage onto Blanc. Which leads us onto other points of ridicule and rancour...
Ciro cannot fail to see what he has done. Or what is happening. I think that perhaps he does, and it is this, his deluded chorus of 'i will find a way out of this', which worries me the most...I don't often hear or read of Ciro showing true honesty in interviews. He seems dignified, but dumb and unwilling to criticize himself or the team...Listening to Mark Stimson, talk about Gillingham's appalling 0-1 loss away to accrington stanley last week, made me think...'I wish we had an HONEST manager...who said it as WE saw and felt it...a man who could talk about where we went wrong, without blaming injuries or the state of the pitch, using such disclaimers solely as a topping, to the main dish he has served up'.
It means a lot to me to hear him speak passionately and openly about our failings...He shows he cares. And feels what I feel. Yet he is a full blooded englishman, and Ciro is a latino...surely his blood should be hotter???? So I will assume, he simply manages to keep his surges of passion, for good and ill, in check, better than an englishman.
if Ciro came out after last night's game and said
'we were again, awful. I apologize to the fans. Because what we have become is a shadow of what we should be...and I will do my best, continue to do my best, and if it doesn't change, either i leave or the team leaves...'
I would respect him.
What you see as courage, I see as a warped sense of loyalty which is not pure, but riddled with egomania...
Ciro showing respect to the club, is besides the point, unless we are talking about how JUVE as a club are treating him. And that story, if we are to focus on it, only serves to pour rage onto Blanc. Which leads us onto other points of ridicule and rancour...
Ciro cannot fail to see what he has done. Or what is happening. I think that perhaps he does, and it is this, his deluded chorus of 'i will find a way out of this', which worries me the most...I don't often hear or read of Ciro showing true honesty in interviews. He seems dignified, but dumb and unwilling to criticize himself or the team...Listening to Mark Stimson, talk about Gillingham's appalling 0-1 loss away to accrington stanley last week, made me think...'I wish we had an HONEST manager...who said it as WE saw and felt it...a man who could talk about where we went wrong, without blaming injuries or the state of the pitch, using such disclaimers solely as a topping, to the main dish he has served up'.
It means a lot to me to hear him speak passionately and openly about our failings...He shows he cares. And feels what I feel. Yet he is a full blooded englishman, and Ciro is a latino...surely his blood should be hotter???? So I will assume, he simply manages to keep his surges of passion, for good and ill, in check, better than an englishman.
if Ciro came out after last night's game and said
'we were again, awful. I apologize to the fans. Because what we have become is a shadow of what we should be...and I will do my best, continue to do my best, and if it doesn't change, either i leave or the team leaves...'
I would respect him.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Elkann to pull plug on Ferrara?[/FONT]
[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]The Coach again refused to resign and insisted he would “find a way out” of the crisis, but last night’s 2-1 home defeat to Roma – the fifth loss in six games – could well be the final straw.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]President Jean-Claude Blanc and recently-appointed assistant general manager Roberto Bettega reiterated their faith in Ferrara.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]However, the way to avoid an about-face from the administration would be bringing in patron Elkann to break the news and make the decision.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Elkann is the heir to the FIAT empire and Agnelli family who have owned Juventus for generations.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]He is a committed fan of the club and many among the supporters have called for him to take over as the new President.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]If Elkann does pull the plug on Ferrara, a new tactician is needed before Thursday’s Coppa Italia quarter-final with Inter.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Guus Hiddink was the main candidate, although a combination of wage demands and a reported snub from the Dutchman have seen him drop down the standings.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Former Juve star Michael Laudrup has offered himself up as caretaker manager, while Dino Zoff and Alberto Zaccheroni could fulfil the same role.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]A more long-term option would be ex-Barcelona Coach Frank Rijkaard.[/FONT]
Sunday 24 January, 2010
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Newspapers claim Ciro Ferrara’s time at Juventus is up, as patron John Elkann intervenes personally.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]The Coach again refused to resign and insisted he would “find a way out” of the crisis, but last night’s 2-1 home defeat to Roma – the fifth loss in six games – could well be the final straw.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]President Jean-Claude Blanc and recently-appointed assistant general manager Roberto Bettega reiterated their faith in Ferrara.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]However, the way to avoid an about-face from the administration would be bringing in patron Elkann to break the news and make the decision.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Elkann is the heir to the FIAT empire and Agnelli family who have owned Juventus for generations.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]He is a committed fan of the club and many among the supporters have called for him to take over as the new President.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]If Elkann does pull the plug on Ferrara, a new tactician is needed before Thursday’s Coppa Italia quarter-final with Inter.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Guus Hiddink was the main candidate, although a combination of wage demands and a reported snub from the Dutchman have seen him drop down the standings.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Former Juve star Michael Laudrup has offered himself up as caretaker manager, while Dino Zoff and Alberto Zaccheroni could fulfil the same role.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]A more long-term option would be ex-Barcelona Coach Frank Rijkaard.[/FONT]
Many will say that it's never too late to get rid of Ciro and it's hard to argue that, but even if firing Ciro is a must, I think that it's way too late.
We're a chaos on and off the pitch and no serious coach will accept to work for us right now because the chances for him to fail to achieve the objectives (Coppa, UEFA, top 4) are much bigger than the chances to win something or make it to top 4.
If the idiots fire Ciro and get someone new, it won't be a quality coach, you can bet on that. Even the non-quality coaches will think twice before they accept a job in this Juve because they're aware how easily it can ruin their careers and how they can end up like Ciro.
We missed our chance back in December or right after New Year. Now we're screwed, with or without Ciro.
We're a chaos on and off the pitch and no serious coach will accept to work for us right now because the chances for him to fail to achieve the objectives (Coppa, UEFA, top 4) are much bigger than the chances to win something or make it to top 4.
If the idiots fire Ciro and get someone new, it won't be a quality coach, you can bet on that. Even the non-quality coaches will think twice before they accept a job in this Juve because they're aware how easily it can ruin their careers and how they can end up like Ciro.
We missed our chance back in December or right after New Year. Now we're screwed, with or without Ciro.
