Ciro Ferrara (37 Viewers)

[PhRoZeN]

Many people forget that we changed our formation this season.We played the 4-4-2 for years and played it to perfection..

I wont say perfection, we had a lot of problems prior ciro with this formation too, I think a change of formation is always a good thing and to have a backup of a few to use during the game. However its undeniable that ciro doesnt know how to or what to

 

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[Bjerknes]

If the Press ask stupid questions, why should he give a serious answer?

Indeed. But Ciro's comments have much more intended humor and tact than Ranieri's, which is another reason to not insult Ciro as a person.

 

[Marceℓℓo]

It's his lack of knowledge how to use the new players. Diego and Melo being the prime examples. Diego out on the wing was retarded when he did not have to do it.

As far as I'm concerned Diego wasn't out on the wing too often.The only thing people surprisingly blamed Ferrara for is that Diego drops deep too often to get involved et cetera.He already did so at Bremen though.

Ferrara is not responsible for Melo's occasional brainfarts in my books, no matter where on the field Melo plays. See,everything is blamed on Ciro.Isn't it possible that Melo had private issues?isn't it possible that Melo was too much under pressure playing for a big club like Juve?Isn't it possible that he was simply tired?Nah,it's Ciro.He intentionally wants to destroy the club.

 

[Hydde]

Ciro is a great guy and all of us loved hm when he was a player.

Its evry clear he needs to resign, he has showed that he lacks what is needed to guide this team, but he remains a gentleman and a legend of the club.

We can just feel sorry for him because of the situaton he is at in this moment, but we all have to admit (Ciro included), that things are not going his way and someone else more experienced needs to step in, because our problems are complex.

 

[Hydde]

As far as I'm concerned Diego wasn't out on the wing too often.The only thing people surprisingly blamed Ferrara for is that Diego drops deep too often to get involved et cetera.He already did so at Bremen though.

Ferrara is not responsible for Melo's occasional brainfarts in my books, no matter where on the field Melo plays. See,everything is blamed on Ciro.Isn't it possible that Melo had private issues?isn't it possible that Melo was too much under pressure playing for a big club like Juve?Isn't it possible that he was simply tired?Nah,it's Ciro.He intentionally wants to destroy the club.

Yeh, but he also must know then when to bench someone and when to send someone to hell or have a speech with that player.

And above everything, we have seen ciro using weird formations and substitutions.

Is clear as water..

EDIT: Damn, Wtf i wrote in here....

 

[Bjerknes]

Many people forget that we changed our formation this season.We played the 4-4-2 for years and played it to perfection.Suddenly we lose Nedved and get Diego,which forced Ciro to change formation.I believe a lot of coaches would have had trouble finding the best formation and more importantly make it work.Ciro is still on the way of finding the right formation,which is pretty obvious as he changes formations like his underwear.All these disturbing injuries aren't helping him either.

But we should have changed the formation regardless. This nonsensical straight 4-4-2 loyalty that came into play ever since Capello's first day has actually done damage to us in Europe due to its one-dimensional play. So I wouldn't say we played it to perfection, especially when we had trouble tormenting teams on the wing, which is what the system does best.

What Ranieri did was just take Capello's system and ran with it, which is the easy way out for a manager. At least Ciro had the balls to try to bring a different system to the team instead of cowardly copying off of someone else, which was success Ranieri couldn't even dream of anyway. A change was needed in terms of formation and tactics because football is moving on from antiquated, one-dimensional systems like the one Capello brought to us. So we have to give credit to Ferrara for that. Yes, even if he can't implement it.

Say what you will, but no matter what, Ciro is a great man and still a Juventus legend despite the fact he should be replaced. Naysayers can go soap it, as Rab would say.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

2LBYT: Ekhm today we played 442? i didn't watch the game, but when i saw our lineuo i thought it was 41212:
Melo
Brazzo - DC
Diego
DP - Amauri
??? or not???

 

[Bjerknes]

It was 4-1-2-1-2 today. I was talking about previous years.

 

[Sad Statue]

2LBYT: Ekhm today we played 442? i didn't watch the game, but when i saw our lineuo i thought it was 41212:
Melo
Brazzo - DC
Diego
DP - Amauri
??? or not???

we played something like this. only dc and brazzo were wide midfielders...

 

[giovanotti]

Ciro is a great guy and all of us loved hm when he was a player.

Its evry clear he needs to resign, he has showed that he lacks what is needed to guide this team, but he remains a gentleman and a legend of the club.

We can just feel sorry for him because of the situaton he is at in this moment, but we all have to admit (Ciro included), that things are not going his way and someone else more experienced needs to step in, because our problems are complex.

Nicely said!

 

[only-juve]

But we should have changed the formation regardless. This nonsensical straight 4-4-2 loyalty that came into play ever since Capello's first day has actually done damage to us in Europe due to its one-dimensional play. So I wouldn't say we played it to perfection, especially when we had trouble tormenting teams on the wing, which is what the system does best.

What Ranieri did was just take Capello's system and ran with it, which is the easy way out for a manager. At least Ciro had the balls to try to bring a different system to the team instead of cowardly copying off of someone else, which was success Ranieri couldn't even dream of anyway. A change was needed in terms of formation and tactics because football is moving on from antiquated, one-dimensional systems like the one Capello brought to us. So we have to give credit to Ferrara for that. Yes, even if he can't implement it.

Say what you will, but no matter what, Ciro is a great man and still a Juventus legend despite the fact he should be replaced. Naysayers can go soap it, as Rab would say.

Couldn't say it better

 

[Suns]

4-1-2-1-2? Obviously as Ciro has been doing this season he sticks with every new formation that gives him just a bit of good result and then after 2 or 3 games he switches it to something new. What is this, the 10th formation of this season?

 

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[Jasp]

I dont think Ciro can be blamed entirely for players bad form. But he can be blamed for playing players out of position and making bad subs (Bayern game especially). The Melo situation is difficuly - bc Ferrara cannot be blamed on his errors like nok clearing the ball on corners - but he can be blamed for lack of positional awareness and where to go when having the ball.

Diego for me has not been a failure since he has impossible conditions to work in - I just hope he continues to like it at juve and some players that can pass the ball come in.

Anyhow.. I Think that if we could have got a better replacement CF would have been out by now.. This is not the case, so we might as well give him untill summer. At least then we can say he had a whole season to make things right. And a lot more possibilities open up. Dont like it one bit, and definetly dont get carried away by one victory over a reserve team... But if he's gonna stay anyway we might as well just support the team and stop yelling for CF to fuck off...

 

[cunninlynguists]

Ciro's first KO !

 

[Brandmon]

Ciro's first KO !

No

 

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[Tommy]

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[Lion]

What Ranieri did was just take Capello's system and ran with it, which is the easy way out for a manager. At least Ciro had the balls to try to bring a different system to the team instead of cowardly copying off of someone else, which was success Ranieri couldn't even dream of anyway. A change was needed in terms of formation and tactics because football is moving on from antiquated, one-dimensional systems like the one Capello brought to us. So we have to give credit to Ferrara for that. Yes, even if he can't implement it.

I don't give a flying fuk if Ciro has balls to try a new formation or no, or of Ranieri was a coward. At the end results are what matters, and Ranieri, managed to get better results with less and your "one dimensional system" than the ballsy Ferrara so you can take that argument about change out the window.

and Ranieri is 10 times the manager that Ferrara is.

 

[Suns]

The craziest thing is that we give a young coach the chance but not young players