Chxta, put them in here (1 Viewer)

Emma

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Mar 4, 2004
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#1
How about making a thread for all those africa posts you randomly place all over the forum.

Its a waste of time for everyone and the posts are:

1) Too long
2) Not interesing
3) Irrelevent

No offence.
 

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Chxta

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Nov 1, 2004
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#3
I find these 2 BBC reports on the Sierra Leone conflict rather contradictory...

First, on January 4 1999:
The Nigerian-led Ecomog intervention force in Sierra Leone has launched a counter offensive against rebels who have been gaining on the capital Freetown, United Nations spokesman Francis Okello has said.

He said Ecomog was attacking rebel positions in Lunsar, 120km east of Freetown.

Reliable sources said Nigerian Alpha jets had strafed rebel positions around Lunsar.

The UN earlier said its military observer mission would resume in Freetown, following an Ecomog-led improvement in the situation.


Mr Okello said several expatriate observers and other staff had returned to the city.

Earlier, reliable reports said Ecomog and government troops had stopped a rebel advance on the strategically important town of Port Loko, 120km (80 miles) north-west of Freetown.

The port is the last major town between the rebels and Freetown international airport.

The rebels, backed by parts of the former Sierra Leone army loyal to the former military regime, have been waging a major offensive and have tried to enter the capital.

So far they have been thwarted by the 15,000-strong Ecomog force which supports the internationally recognised government of President Ahmed Tejan Kabbah.

The UN views the situation in Sierra Leone seriously because of the potential of the conflict to destabilise the region.

Aside from Nigeria's involvement, Liberia has been accused of backing the insurgents.

The war has also uprooted tens of thousands of refugees.

BBC West Africa Correspondent Mark Doyle says there are fears the fighting will divide the country between north and south if a long-term political solution is not found.

Much of the north has been taken by the rebels, while the south is under government control.

The UN Security Council, the US and Britain have all condemned the rebels' offensive.
Then on June 15 2000, it suddenly changed...
The major contingent of the British military task-force sent to help restore order in Sierra Leone has left the country.

The departure of the prestigious Royal Marines was overseen by UK Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott, who said his government was proud of what they had done to restore stability.

Britain, the former colonial power in Sierra Leone, is handing responsibility for security to the United Nations.

About 300 UK troops and support staff will stay on in the war-torn African country for the next six to eight weeks to help establish a UK military advisory training team.

Most people in Freetown would prefer to see the British military continuing their confidence-building street patrols, but UK ministers always insisted their mission to help the UN forces there was a short-term one.

Brigadier David Richards, commander of the British forces in Sierra Leone, told BBC Radio's Today programme: "The UN have a much stronger resolve now and are clearer about their mandate and have shown that they have the resolve to fight.

"When we arrived here about six weeks ago, they did appear on the verge of collapse. Today they have been transformed."

At the core of the continuing British effort will be the retraining of the demoralised Sierra Leone army.

Many of its soldiers are poorly trained and equipped and their ranks have featured children.

Sierra Leone continues to face horrendous problems. A war is being fought in the countryside about which there is little reliable information.

The UN says that one million people have been affected.

The rebels hold the main diamond-producing area, which deprives the government of revenue and, it is alleged, attracts support for the rebels from neighbouring Liberia.

This was the BBC's summary of the conflict:
Sierra Leone's civil war saw nearly half the country's 4.5 million population displaced.

At least 50,000 people died in the fighting and there were an estimated 100,000 victims of mutilation.

The economy was left in ruins and the country's infrastructure has collapsed.

British troops entered Sierra Leone as a peace deal between government and rebels had broken down and rebel forces were scoring successes against the Sierra Leone army and the UN peacekeeping force.

In August 2000 the UN agreed to pursue rebels through an international tribunal, and in July 2002 a newly inaugurated Truth and Reconciliation Commission began its work.
Notice that no mention is made of the role of ECOMOG?

I wouldn't even start with CNN. They are worse!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/247756.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/15/newsid_2512000/2512669.stm
 

Chxta

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Nov 1, 2004
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#4
Sorry, I forgot to add this one:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/246206.stm
The West African peacekeeping force, Ecomog, says rebels in Sierra Leone have been pushed out of Port Loko, 50km north-east of the capital, Freetown.

A spokesperson for Ecomog said their forces, backed by Nigerian warplanes, drove the rebels from the town on Thursday.

Local reports said hundreds of rebels attacked Port Loko on Wednesday, seizing parts of the town, while Ecomog forces held other parts.

According to Sierra Leone's Information Minister, Julius Spencer, Port Loko was reclaimed with the help of local militia.

Mr Spencer said the rebels were still holding the town of Lunsar, east of Port Loko.

Nigeria, which supplies most of the Ecomog troops, sent thousands of reinforcements last week to swell the force estimated at 15,000 which is already in Sierra Leone.

Our correspondent in Freetown says the war still has the capacity to spread.

As well as attacking a barracks and an airstrip outside the capital on Wednesday, the rebels have taken a string of towns in the centre of the country.

By Friday, the Nigerian-led forces had regained control at the Freetown barracks and airstrip, helped by local tribal militia known as kamajaws.

According to the correspondent, the rebel attack frightened the local population into staying at home on what would normally have been a popular New Year's Day Bank Holiday.

The United States has laid much of the blame for the continuing insurgency in the country on Liberia.

While Liberia denies official involvement, the government there says paid Liberian mercenaries may be helping the rebels.
 

Chxta

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Nov 1, 2004
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The Nigerians are believed to have about 5,000 troops in Sierra Leone and they form the backbone of forces loyal to the government. They have a relatively well-trained military force and sophisticated weapons, including fighter jets.

BBC West Africa Correspondent Mark Doyle says the Nigerians are defending an elected government facing a rebel force that is unpopular among Sierra Leonians because of atrocities it has committed against civilians.

President Kabbah's government was overthrown in a military coup in May 1997, when rebel soldiers joined forces with the Revolutionary United Front (RUF), which took up arms in 1992.

It was only after Ecomog intervened that President Kabbah was restored to power in February this year.

The United Nations Security Council has expressed concern over the rebel attacks and reported atrocities against civilians.

UN observers have pulled out of Freetown, and the UK Foreign Office has warned British nationals to leave Sierra Leone as a precautionary measure.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/241735.stm
 

Chxta

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Nov 1, 2004
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Then at the end of the conflict, (in which I participated I might add, and lost friends), some Britishers come in and march around Freetown (never going far away from their secure perimeter at the Airport), looking pretty, stay 6 weeks, then say: O, it was our presence that ended the conflict!

How idiotic can things get?
 
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Emma

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Mar 4, 2004
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    So you flame the BBC for making the statements above then post this:
    Where did they say that?

    ++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++
    O, it was our presence that ended the conflict!

    How idiotic can things get?
    Hmmm.

    And youre probably right, would be better if the UK didnt help. Im sure you'll do just fine. Send those soilders back to their families so they dont have to risk their lives for you. What bastards they are.
     

    Chxta

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    Nov 1, 2004
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    You have absolutely no idea what I am talking about. Please go back to your team turdface hq.
    This is one issue that I take very personal!
     

    swag

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    You know, looking at the subject line of this thread, I almost thought Emma was giving you a come on or something.

    You know Cheta's engaged, Emma, right? :D
     
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    Emma

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    ++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++
    You have absolutely no idea what I am talking about. Please go back to your team turdface hq.
    This is one issue that I take very personal!
    Yeah and an issue you also continually post bullshit on.

    If I had no idea what Im talking about, please show that by responding to my posts.

    If you are posting expecting people to hold off because its personal, this isnt the forum for it.

    Its funny I never have any idea what Im talking about yet noone ever really proves that. They just post something shit and random. Its also interesting that Shadowfax will usually post something not entirely different from what I said and noone will even respond at all. Usually the very same point infact. Then its taken as the law.
     

    Chxta

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    Nov 1, 2004
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    O my God. I get caught up by her anger at the world.

    Sorry lassie. I really am sorry.






















































    But the point remains. Your media said a lot of bullshit about a war that I happened to have participated in. Read the posts and get it right.

    I admire Paul because he is very articulate and states his facts in a logical and scientific manner. With all due respect, you talk like a junkie on occassion. No insult intended.

    I accept the fact that a lot of people are uninterested in what I have to say, but then this wouldn't be a forum if everyone was interested. If I post something that bores you, skip the page.
     
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    Emma

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    ++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++
    O my God. I get caught up by her anger at the world.

    Sorry lassie. I really am sorry.

    But the point remains. Your media said a lot of bullshit about a war that I happened to have participated in. Read the posts and get it right.

    I admire Paul because he is very articulate and states his facts in a logical and scientific manner. With all due respect, you talk like a junkie on occassion. No insult intended.

    I accept the fact that a lot of people are uninterested in what I have to say, but then this wouldn't be a forum if everyone was interested. If I post something that bores you, skip the page.
    Sure I realise I post alot of shit. But I do ocassionally post something worthwhile, something you dont have to respond to or like.

    You have absolutely no idea what I am talking about if you are not going to prove it. As it happens I have an idea what im talking about and it looks like a more realistic version that your obviously biased views.

    I dont care what some sections of the British media are saying (which btw, isnt exactly that bad. Really, its hardly a huge deal what you have posted. And my point was why flame that if you are going to post what you posted. Isnt that the exact same thing? Sure you are exaggerating but still.

    You might see it as turning up and having a victory parade, but what you should consider is what a force like the British bring to your country. The handling of such situations, the intelligence, the training of your forces (yeah thats the best training in the world).

    You are the one who needs to learn what you are talking about. You live there, you see it, but you take it as face value and thats your flaw.

    If you dont want me to reply, just let me know. I could talk about this all night, believe me I know what Im talking about. No one ever responds to your posts on this, I thought you wanted discussion, I thought you posted this here so someone would engage it, I didnt realise you were posting it as anti-british sentiment. My apologies.
     

    Nicole

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    **** it really, someone is ALWAYS going to post something someone thinks is complete crap, hell 99% of the people here think I dont post anything meaningful, hell their probably right, do I care? No.

    Does it matter, if 1 single thing interests you, stop you being bored for 5 secs, then good, says from dying of boredom.
     

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