Charlie Hebdo massacre - 2015-Jan-07 (9 Viewers)
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It's a shock to the system to force people to dig deep in their daily lives and recognize what principles they aspire to and believe are important.
You could try to make the case that civil rights in the U.S. during the 1960s could have been better served by threats and violence, but public sympathy would have never come around and I believe things would be even worse in places like Ferguson today if not for that.
Winning the hearts and minds of psychopathic militants is a nice recruiting strategy if you want to kill a handful of cartoonists, but its also a death wish for your own broader public aims. You can try to put the genie back in the bottle like we're still in the Dark Ages, but public sentiment knows that's regressively sheer folly -- and acts like this only alienate them even further to social irrelevancy.
You could try to make the case that civil rights in the U.S. during the 1960s could have been better served by threats and violence, but public sympathy would have never come around and I believe things would be even worse in places like Ferguson today if not for that.
Winning the hearts and minds of psychopathic militants is a nice recruiting strategy if you want to kill a handful of cartoonists, but its also a death wish for your own broader public aims. You can try to put the genie back in the bottle like we're still in the Dark Ages, but public sentiment knows that's regressively sheer folly -- and acts like this only alienate them even further to social irrelevancy.
Human lives aren't valued by our higher ups, I can't help but feel that. These things could have been cut from the root, so many of these incidents could have easily been avoided. And these ISIS fucks and those random terrorist groups don't appear on their own, cut the funding, cut off the countries that fund them, simple as that.
Every civilian, wishes for peace and prosperity, it's ridicule to believe that the masses want blood, however the masses are tools, and so is religion. We know that states like Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, but what does the western world do? Negotiate oil prices with these lunatics, let them host your world cups, get them to pump money into your economy by buying football clubs.
This needs to be cut at the roots.
As for this specific case however, it can very well have been done by a random person, heck somebody ran up in the Canadian Parliment with a rifle and killed a man before getting himself killed, was a recent convert apparently. Regardless, I hope the families of those who got affected directly by this incident get to bury their loved ones and mourn their lost without having a distasteful opinion of all muslims, hate doesn't eliminate hate.
Every civilian, wishes for peace and prosperity, it's ridicule to believe that the masses want blood, however the masses are tools, and so is religion. We know that states like Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, but what does the western world do? Negotiate oil prices with these lunatics, let them host your world cups, get them to pump money into your economy by buying football clubs.
This needs to be cut at the roots.
As for this specific case however, it can very well have been done by a random person, heck somebody ran up in the Canadian Parliment with a rifle and killed a man before getting himself killed, was a recent convert apparently. Regardless, I hope the families of those who got affected directly by this incident get to bury their loved ones and mourn their lost without having a distasteful opinion of all muslims, hate doesn't eliminate hate.
The IS is a little unique. It's a product of all the f'ed up regional things that have lead up to it.
Typically, psychotic death cults never evolve beyond a certain limited size. They reach a critical mass where the very behaviors that drive them become internalized and these groups implode from within.
If you're basically spitting hate and feeling humiliated all the time and seeking vengeance while carrying military weapons, it doesn't take much to turn that against the very guy who has been training alongside you. Especially when the inevitable human frailties come in: jealousy, hubris, ego, disagreements and an inability to resolve them without killing each other, etc.
So what's surprised me is that IS has managed to be somewhat shelf-stable to this point. The question is whether it can grow further or if it will soon start to crumble from within.
Typically, psychotic death cults never evolve beyond a certain limited size. They reach a critical mass where the very behaviors that drive them become internalized and these groups implode from within.
If you're basically spitting hate and feeling humiliated all the time and seeking vengeance while carrying military weapons, it doesn't take much to turn that against the very guy who has been training alongside you. Especially when the inevitable human frailties come in: jealousy, hubris, ego, disagreements and an inability to resolve them without killing each other, etc.
So what's surprised me is that IS has managed to be somewhat shelf-stable to this point. The question is whether it can grow further or if it will soon start to crumble from within.
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