Champions League 2021-22 (35 Viewers)

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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Barcelona is what these EPL teams will become in time, you simply can't spend that much on players and wages and not expect it to exceed the club's income at some point. Man Utd are on their way down while Arsenal slowed spending and their quality has suffered massively as a result. When the bubble bursts, these clubs will be in a dark place.
Arsenal spent over 150mln last summer.
 

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Boksic

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May 11, 2005
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Barcelona is what these EPL teams will become in time, you simply can't spend that much on players and wages and not expect it to exceed the club's income at some point. Man Utd are on their way down while Arsenal slowed spending and their quality has suffered massively as a result. When the bubble bursts, these clubs will be in a dark place.
Are they spending more than they make though?

I genuinely don't know but the TV rights in England are incredible and seem to increase, plus the merchandising etc from its popularity. Then player sales are at a premium because they have played in England. You also have billionaire owners backing them.

It would be nice for the playing field to be more even but I can only see the gap getting bigger in the next few years.
 

kao_ray

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Feb 28, 2014
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Are they spending more than they make though?

I genuinely don't know but the TV rights in England are incredible and seem to increase, plus the merchandising etc from its popularity. Then player sales are at a premium because they have played in England. You also have billionaire owners backing them.

It would be nice for the playing field to be more even but I can only see the gap getting bigger in the next few years.
My heart says @Mokku but my brain says @Boksic :sigh:
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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No, because Bundesliga teams and players bend over backwards for Bayern. In Italy most clubs will do anything to ensure that Juve suffer.
Doesn't mean you can't follow our model as much as it's possible.

For us is it the only way to compete with the EPL/PSG in the long term. They will probably distance us economically in this decade unless we stay highly succesful in the CL.

But that's certainly not given. Everything comes to an end, our cycle will also have to start over at some point.
 
May 23, 2013
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Atalanta and Gasperini have done a tremendous job considering their wage bill and starting point. Its unfortunate to see them miss out on the knockout stage. Atalanta were very unfortunate when it came to injuries and general luck, but its not the end of the world. If they can win the Europa, while teams like Barca and Dortmund are in the comp, that would mean a whole lot more than going on another nice CL run.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Doesn't mean you can't follow our model as much as it's possible.

For us is it the only way to compete with the EPL/PSG in the long term. They will probably distance us economically in this decade unless we stay highly succesful in the CL.

But that's certainly not given. Everything comes to an end, our cycle will also have to start over at some point.
Yeah, for us it's the only sustainable model, such a shame we stopped following it somewhere between 2018-2020.

Luckily it looks like we're moving towards that direction now.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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No, because Bundesliga teams and players bend over backwards for Bayern. In Italy most clubs will do anything to ensure that Juve suffer.
We were on a good way following that model until we fucked up by spending way too much on an aging superstar and look at us now.

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Bayern will fall the moment their current crop of players decline just as we did when we lost our best players. They cannot keep competing with the riches of the EPL.
That'll be a while then looking at Gnabry, Sane, Kimmich and the likes. I'm sure Bayern will remain on top. They have much more firepower than we do, sadly.
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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We were on a good way following that model until we fucked up by spending way too much on an aging superstar and look at us now.

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That'll be a while then looking at Gnabry, Sane, Kimmich and the likes. I'm sure Bayern will remain on top. They have much more firepower than we do, sadly.
What will be hard is replacing Lewandowski and Neuer. Those two are nearly irreplaceable for us and the way we play our football. Good thing is they seems to be able to play at least a few years more at the highest level, but I don't see how we can depend on them beyond 2025.

Müller will also be very hard to replace. Good thing is we managed to do it in no time with Robbery, gives me hope we will be able to pull it off once again with the right scouting.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Why do Italy have 4 CL spots again? Been shit in Europe for so long now. Probably deserve no more than 2.
cause juve carries the shitty league

this year too, juve should be ashamed of the abysmal performances that resulted in a group win (but but but 0-4 vs chelsea), yet inda should be proud to finally get out of the group stage, atalanta went out with their heads held high, not to mention milan, who can be the proudest because of that (genuinely scandalous, it has to be said) atleti penalty that sealed their fate allegedly.

to sum up:
- milan, played great, 1 win, proudest bunch
- atalanta, beautiful football, 1 win, proud bunch too
- inda, 3 wins, like they won the whole shit
- juve, 5 ugly wins, shame on them

italy :touched:

anyway, atalanta out means a bigger piece of the cake for juve. normally i'd root for atalanta/gasp, but in this financial climate, thanks for choking guys
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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cause juve carries the shitty league

this year too, juve should be ashamed of the abysmal performances that resulted in a group win (but but but 0-4 vs chelsea), yet inda should be proud to finally get out of the group stage, atalanta went out with their heads held high, not to mention milan, who can be the proudest because of that (genuinely scandalous, it has to be said) atleti penalty that sealed their fate allegedly.

to sum up:
- milan, played great, 1 win, proudest bunch
- atalanta, beautiful football, 1 win, proud bunch too
- inda, 3 wins, like they won the whole shit
- juve, 5 ugly wins, shame on them

italy :touched:

anyway, atalanta out means a bigger piece of the cake for juve. normally i'd root for atalanta/gasp, but in this financial climate, thanks for choking guys
All Italian teams can eat shit and die for all I care.
 

Mokku

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Apr 17, 2019
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@Boksic I agree but a lot of English clubs nearly disappeared during COVID, even mighty Liverpool had to release some of their stadium staff because the outgoings on players is so high despite EPL and CL wins. Take a club like Spurs building a new stadium, hiring expensive coaches, and now they'll probably spend a lot in transfers for Conte so they'll have to become competitive or it's money down the drain. Inter spent big to win Serie A and lucky for them they got a huge fee for Lukaku or you'd see half that team sold, now just think how far away they are from winning the CL and how much they invested. English clubs are investing much more than Inter and apart from City, Chelsea, and Liverpool; the rest are far from being CL level.
 

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