capello - the best coach in the world? (11 Viewers)

[denco]

++ [ originally posted by RochemBeck ] ++


I tend to agree denco. You have to look at the performances of the players during the actual matches, not just some training session...and what sort of manager would not field the players who perform during the matches anyway? That doesn't really make any sense.

As for Capello being stubborn...in a way I think he is. He has fielded the 4-4-2 throughout the majority of his career, however he also played around with the 3-4-1-2 and the 4-2-3-1 and changed things up when the system was not working very well. So I believe it's a combination of both...Capello only cares for a couple systems and doesn't exactly know how to change a team around when we hit a bad spell.

I do not think he is stubborn, as that means he is unwilling to change his beliefs, but like you pointed out , he has done in the past. He just does not know any better than 4-4-2, thats whats he is very comfortable with and its also his biggest failing.
A case in point, he went to Roma, stole Zeman's 3 man attack, by using Totti, behind Delvecchio and Montella, first season , it worked relatively well, the next season, he added Batigol and they won the scvudetto and what does he do next, he changes back to his comfort zone of 4-4-2 with Totti ann Batisuta and off cos we won the league then with Roma making a late surge for second place

Nothing wrong with 4-4 -2, if you have the player to play it, but we do not, we dont have a decent right back, our wingers are not really wingers but he is still persisiting with 4-4-2

Now another irritaion for me is that we have a problem with right back position and what does our "world class" coach do to solve it, he creates a case where we now have to problems, and i mean we now have Zambrotta playing on the right, off cos he is not that good there, and his replacements at left back have not been good enuff
So instead of having 1 problem we are now bad at both full back positions

And whats his problem with Camo all of a sudden? Kind of reminiscent of how he managed to get the best outta Mancini for 1 season and had problems with him the next season.
I do not like to read him say stuff like he hopes Camo finds tranquility at the Nt. what the hell does that mean? That there is chaos at Juve's dressing room?
I have never witnessed a situation whereby you sub a sub in consecutive matches, i mean its madness.
But you get guys on here blaming it completely on the player
And when Mutu scores a goal, he comes up with inane stuff like Its nice to see Mutu finally finding some form and getting back to his old self or something like that, and then in the next game he benches him or saying Dp has been looking sharp in training whenver Dp scores in a match he has started and once Dp's levels drop a bit he is subbed or benched in the next game no matter his form

 

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[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by denco ] ++

Nothing wrong with 4-4 -2, if you have the player to play it, but we do not, we dont have a decent right back, our wingers are not really wingers but he is still persisiting with 4-4-2

Exactly right we do not have natural wingers such as a Joaquin who can blow by people on the wing...we have Camoranesi who can make decent crosses however he lacks speed and tends to roam towards the center more than just staying on the touchline. Nedved while not being on good form tends to cut inside as well, however now since Chiellini is being fielded on the left we lack that presence of Zambrotta being able to fill the space left by Nedved. Personally I'm not a big fan of the 4-4-2 even if we would have capable wingers..

And whats his problem with Camo all of a sudden? Kind of reminiscent of how he managed to get the best outta Mancini for 1 season and had problems with him the next season.
I do not like to read him say stuff like he hopes Camo finds tranquility at the Nt. what the hell does that mean? That there is chaos at Juve's dressing room?
I have never witnessed a situation whereby you sub a sub in consecutive matches, i mean its madness.
But you get guys on here blaming it completely on the player

Quite comical situation indeed. I love how Camoranesi blasted the ball at Lucarelli and then took his legs out when he got the ball back...if I was Capello I would not be entirely mad because Luca was waiving his hands all over the place. And yeah the comments made by Capello are not exactly reassuring to say the least...perhaps he rather let Lippi calm Camoranesi down instead of just doing it himself...I don't know. One thing I do know is we need Camoranesi if we want to go far in the Champions League this season...we have absolutely no cover at all for the man.

And when Mutu scores a goal, he comes up with inane stuff like Its nice to see Mutu finally finding some form and getting back to his old self or something like that, and then in the next game he benches him or saying Dp has been looking sharp in training whenver Dp scores in a match he has started and once Dp's levels drop a bit he is subbed or benched in the next game no matter his form

Del Piero could probably score a hattrick against a team like Livorno yet get benched for a crucial fixture in the Champions League just a couple days later, just so Capello can field his tall men again. It's fairly obvious we do not always need height against every single club we play, and what pisses me off is when looking at some of the better teams we play it would make sense to field a player like Mutu or Del Piero instead of Ibrahimovic, yet we are seemingly the only people who notice and Capello just fields the same two players again. The away match against Bayern was case in point...Ismael is strong in the air but rather inept on the ground so a player such as Mutu or Del Piero would be able to exploit that weakness. But we just try to beat them using high balls that Magath was waiting for...doesn't make any sense.

 

[neath_lad]

++ [ originally posted by delpierofan82 ] ++

I think that capello did much more than totti for football

of course he has. capello trophies can speak for itself and lots of the time when totti needed to prove himself on the big stage he failed to deliver.

 

[Cronios]

The fault isnt just the formation,
we would all love to see a more attacking and imressive to watch football from Juve,but we know we are Juve an Italian team fated to put the attention on defend the result rather than try to extend it.
Its not a bad thing to use the defensive 4-4-2 for the championship,
as it assures less games will be lost in the long run,
so rather win the great majority of them with 1-0 wins than,win 3-0 and draw or even loose a decent amount of them as Inter and other spanish teams used to do.
Another thing is attacking football has risks and needs more energy from the players,that will eventually get tired and some periods wont be able to produce in the same level anymore(Barcelona),
or become more keen to injuries and dependent on the most creative players.
The mentality is right(Offence wins games,defence wins championships)every juventus fan ought to be accomodated with it,this is what we are, nomatter the coach...

also Juventus and Italian football is based on tactics,
(this is why i personally love it),
players dont have free roles,
its just like a chess game,
when facing strong equal adversaries the smallest detail may win or loose the game,
this is where the difference between the coaches decisions matter most,
Cap prooved he is far from flawless there...
this is his weak spot,this weakness however may not cost the championship because the derbies are much less than the easy games(it depends on the opposition overall performance and ability to follow)

But cup competitions is a totally different world,
esp in knock out games(this is what CL became),
this is made for surpises,one bad game may cost the entire competition,
goals is what matters the most,
u have to attack,draw means nothing here,
all that matters is how many times u scored MORE from ur opponent.
For maximum results u have to adapt ur play on the everytime opponent,there is no magic solution to win u everything,
as a coach earning millions and having the best tools in ur hand u must calibrate ur team every time,
there is no place for stubborness,
u have to dominate every single game,
Cap prooved he cannot adapt to every situation,
lets hope that we will face opponents fitted on his plans,
we sould avoid any English teams and long ball combo's

 

[Paolo Sosa]

the main thing that i hate o capello is that he can't change a game or come from behind.

i remember 3 year ago under lippi we were loseing to roma 2-0 and we were in a really bad shape, but lippi still got us going by introducing zambo.

 

[tassard]

Lippi was great.IMO one of the best coaches ever.He could combine great attack and defend.If we were not unlucky to the finals he would be a legend.He also used new players

 

[king Ale]

++ [ originally posted by ZhiXin ] ++
Totti turns on Don Fabio Monday 14 November, 2005


"Luciano Spalletti, compared to Capello, is a real man. He doesn’t treat Totti, Vincenzo Montella and others differently. He treats everybody in the same way."

I agree here.Cap doesn't treat every player in the same way.his 11 first players seem untouchable.he doesn't award a bench player when he performs good.a bench player in his mind is always a bench player.

 

[Philipp00]

I think it can be very frustrating if you are not one of Capellos 11 first players. He has his favourite players and it is hard to get a chance if you are not his first choice even if you are great in training. He is a great coach but he prefers old and experineced players he has already worked with. It is very hard for young players to get playing time.

 

[neath_lad]

++ [ originally posted by Philipp00 ] ++
I think it can be very frustrating if you are not one of Capellos 11 first players. He has his favourite players and it is hard to get a chance if you are not his first choice even if you are great in training. He is a great coach but he prefers old and experineced players he has already worked with. It is very hard for young players to get playing time.

in a way its good and bad. when the team doing well maybe he dont like change but you need variety in a team.

 

[Juve_Kosova]

theres no coach out there who is perfect...
yes cap has some bad thing too, but IMO he is the right coach for juve right now...

 

[ZAF3000]

theres no coach out there who is perfect...
yes cap has some bad thing too, but IMO he is the right coach for juve right now...

I agree

 

[barış]

i agree too. capello is the right man for juve. we don`t have a comprehensive squad so he can`t change the 11 first very easily. inspite of this he is good at keeping his players on form i think. and there is a important drawback for us: nedved isn`t on form so our wings don`t run as well as last year. 4-4-2 is a simple tactic but there is no reason to fail if your wings are capable like nedved and camoronesi.

 

[Juve_Kosova]

i agree too. capello is the right man for juve. we don`t have a comprehensive squad so he can`t change the 11 first very easily. inspite of this he is good at keeping his players on form i think. and there is a important drawback for us: nedved isn`t on form so our wings don`t run as well as last year. 4-4-2 is a simple tactic but there is no reason to fail if your wings are capable like nedved and camoronesi.

and welcome to this forum

 

[ZhiXin]

Sometimes I wish that Capello would be quiet and focus on his job instead of talking to the press all the time.

 

[Bjerknes]

i agree too. capello is the right man for juve. we don`t have a comprehensive squad so he can`t change the 11 first very easily. inspite of this he is good at keeping his players on form i think. and there is a important drawback for us: nedved isn`t on form so our wings don`t run as well as last year. 4-4-2 is a simple tactic but there is no reason to fail if your wings are capable like nedved and camoronesi.

But that's the thing, we lack wingers such as Joaquin or Vicente who can burst past defenders with speed and get off decent crosses. Nedved likes to roam towards the middle and with Chiellini on the left we lack a decent crosser of the ball...Camoranesi likes to pinch inside as well leaving space on the wings. I don't remember the last time Camoranesi beat a player and got a cross off before the endline...he's not that type of player. I just don't think we have the right players to use a straight 4-4-2 and we are not playing to our strengths..

 

[Juve_Kosova]

Capello hints at England move Monday 21 November, 2005

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Juventus boss Fabio Capello has today stated he would be particularly keen on a switch to England. "I’ve always been interested by the idea," he admitted to Football Italia.

Talking ahead of the Champions League match with Club Brugge on Tuesday night, Don Fabio confessed that while he is happy with Juve for the time being, he is still keen on satisfying his wanderlust.

"I’ve got a year left on my contract and I’m very happy here," he said. "I’m also happy that foreign clubs are interested in me."

Capello has ventured abroad before. In 1996-97 he took over the reins at Real Madrid where he won the Primera Liga at the first attempt.

But despite winning over the notoriously hard to please Meringues supporters, he returned to Milan after just one season.

Ten years on though, it seems that the 59-year-old’s desire to try new adventures is still burning within and, with his contract set to run out in 2007, clubs such as Manchester United will certainly be taking note.

"I’m happy with what I’ve achieved in my career," he added. "But it would be very stimulating to go abroad.

"At my age I’m always looking for new stimuli and I’ve always said I’d be interested in going to England."
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What the fuck... this is getting annoying(spell) ..........
i hope he dosent leave..!

 

[Eddy]

I wouldnt mind

 

[Juve_Kosova]

I wouldnt mind

ofcourse you wouldnt.. :sick:

 

[Eddy]

ofcourse you wouldnt.. :sick:

:sick:

The only reason I want him to leave is cause he plays too defensively
If he changes it, which is never, then we would be the greatest club ever !

 

[barış]

firstly thanks juve_kosova. and then although juventus is an itallian club capello has an offensive tactic. i know not very much but i think this is as offensive as possible.