i was thinkin the same thing... hes not as lively, classy as before.. theres somethin missing from him this season especially.
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only becuz he doesnt go galloping around to the front like last everytime.
He is a class defender as he is a classy attacker.
u guys have to remember the guy is a full back, so if he pushes up then there will be spaces in the back.Also he has some excellent defensive abilities, why not use them for the best of the team.There isnt anyone as fast as him in the whole defensive line up.
Here is wat i thought.
i dont think that our defense is as good as last since thuram got his numerous injuries, so that is one reason zambo has more defensive duties.
another thing is the fact that our DMs are always attacking even gianni is pushing forward.So i think that will leave the defense exposed, and someone will have to cover.
He is a class defender as he is a classy attacker.
u guys have to remember the guy is a full back, so if he pushes up then there will be spaces in the back.Also he has some excellent defensive abilities, why not use them for the best of the team.There isnt anyone as fast as him in the whole defensive line up.
Here is wat i thought.
i dont think that our defense is as good as last since thuram got his numerous injuries, so that is one reason zambo has more defensive duties.
another thing is the fact that our DMs are always attacking even gianni is pushing forward.So i think that will leave the defense exposed, and someone will have to cover.
i think playing mutu in the middle as a playmaker is the best idea.I know hes got the capabilities for it, but he didnt play there ever...as i remember.
in parma he was playing as an attacking winger in the 4-3-3, and in chelsea he played upfront.
so i dont think its the best idea to place him behind the two stikers.
also if we play with a diamond formation u need a good distributor of the ball from the place in front of the defenders.Which we dont have.
And a diamond cant work with neddy on the right.we will need to put a player like gattuso there.
Also it would just put either viera or emo out of the picture.
if ur talking abt the 4-3-1-2 then it would sacrifice either neddy or camo in that case, and i think we will be a bit narrow.Cuz if camo plays then he would cover the right and either viera or emo would have to cover the left or even one of the attackers which will cause us to lose our depth upfront.
in parma he was playing as an attacking winger in the 4-3-3, and in chelsea he played upfront.
so i dont think its the best idea to place him behind the two stikers.
also if we play with a diamond formation u need a good distributor of the ball from the place in front of the defenders.Which we dont have.
And a diamond cant work with neddy on the right.we will need to put a player like gattuso there.
Also it would just put either viera or emo out of the picture.
if ur talking abt the 4-3-1-2 then it would sacrifice either neddy or camo in that case, and i think we will be a bit narrow.Cuz if camo plays then he would cover the right and either viera or emo would have to cover the left or even one of the attackers which will cause us to lose our depth upfront.
There's no two ways about it. If we want to win the Champions League, we have to optimize player potential and couple that with an unpredictable approach.
Mutu is best suited to being a playmaker, and if he plays in that role, it not only maximizes his potential but also makes for an unpredictable, and need I say, more fluid approach which is the only way to counter the opposition in European competion.
Capello is a world class coach. His trophies speak for him.
In the same time, Juve is even a greater team.
My concern is his current tachtics. He was good 5 years ago when he won the scudetto with Roma. He was good last season (not terrific). The real question "IS HE FINISHED? " ... are his tachtics and formations outdated?
In past 4 years smaller teams have caused big teams problems. This shows that football now is a more serious sport than it was 20 eyars ago.
Capello might be able to with the Serie A, but can his tachtics win the CL? Morinho on the other hand might be able to win the CL but can he win a title as the serie A?
Capello prefers solid than creative. Wait for oponents mistakes and chances rather than creating them.
When Ancelotti was a coached we played 3-4-1-2 for some time with 1 being Zidane. The formation was good but it was too Zidane dependant.
Lippi on the other hand played us with 4-3-1-2 with 1 being Nedved. The tachtic was Nedved dependant but not as much as Ancelotti's was Zidane's dependant.
Capello made us seriously Nedved dependant last season then Vieira dependant this season.
Now I can understand being Nedved dependant since he is the Offensive midfielder, but Vieira is a Deffensive midfielder. How can we be dependant on him in offensive manners? This is crazy.
Capello has a squad that can only be compared to the one Lippi had in 95-96 and it may be even better.
A formation like 4-3-1-2 is a very balanced formation. And with the turn-over we won't be player dependant.
With it we have 2 centre backs that stay there. Two side back who go offensively from time to time. Two deffiensive midfielders. One of them who drift to the side when a SB go offensively. We have a Wing whether its right or left depending on the match. A creative offensive midfielder that move sideways AND TWO STRIKERS.
Centre back we have : Thuram, Cannvaro, Kovac, Gladstone
Side back: Chielini, Zambrotta, Zebina, Pessotto, Birindelli
Deffensive midfielder: Vieira, Emerson, Blasi, Giannicheda
Side midfilder: Camoranesi, Olivera, Mutu, nedved
Offensive midfielder: Nedved, Mutu and even Camoranesi
Strikers: Del Piero, Ibra, Trezeguet and Zalayata.
Capello on the other hand is playing a classic 4-4-2. Now this could be good if you are playing 4 midfielders in diamond shape with 1 DM. Unfortunately thats not the case.
Limiting Nedved on the left has two disadvatages:
1- Nedveds shot on goal will be limited. His movements will be limited, hence his creatitvity is limited.
2- By keeping Nedved on the left side you are limiting Zambrotta's free runs. Runs which won us many games in the past.
Same applies to Camoranesi on the right. If you remember Juve V Real last season. Camoranesi played the best game of his life. Why? He was playing as an offensive mdifielder behind three strikers. He was as creative as anyone maybe. He reminded me with the Zidane days.
With this formation you are also asking Vieira and Emerson who are Deffesinve mdifielders to be creative and start attacks. While they are world class players, they are in no mean creative/offensive midfielders. They will never be.
This is why whenever we are down by a goal and the other team go back to deffend their lead you find us impotent. You see the best stars in the world lacking the ability to matsh forward. You a team which is down by one goal rather than going forward they start passing the ball to each other at the back seriously clueless.
In all our matches this season in the serie A with th except of Parma we always were the ones who start scoring which is good. In the Serie A it is good to go grab a goal and deffend your lead. In the CL if you are not capable of coming back from a goal or two down you can never win.
Capello has created a team that can deffend its lead, but he sure (atleast I haven't seen that yet) did not create a team capable of standing up after a fall during a match.
If you remember during the Parma match, why did we come back into the game? Is because Camoranesi decided to take matters into his own hands and went to the centre of the field and played as a Offfensive midfielder. He was rewarded by a wonderful goal.
Capello is a world class coach, but his tachtics need to change if he is really targeting the CL.
Sorry for the long post, but I needed to stress out my opinion.
In the same time, Juve is even a greater team.
My concern is his current tachtics. He was good 5 years ago when he won the scudetto with Roma. He was good last season (not terrific). The real question "IS HE FINISHED? " ... are his tachtics and formations outdated?
In past 4 years smaller teams have caused big teams problems. This shows that football now is a more serious sport than it was 20 eyars ago.
Capello might be able to with the Serie A, but can his tachtics win the CL? Morinho on the other hand might be able to win the CL but can he win a title as the serie A?
Capello prefers solid than creative. Wait for oponents mistakes and chances rather than creating them.
When Ancelotti was a coached we played 3-4-1-2 for some time with 1 being Zidane. The formation was good but it was too Zidane dependant.
Lippi on the other hand played us with 4-3-1-2 with 1 being Nedved. The tachtic was Nedved dependant but not as much as Ancelotti's was Zidane's dependant.
Capello made us seriously Nedved dependant last season then Vieira dependant this season.
Now I can understand being Nedved dependant since he is the Offensive midfielder, but Vieira is a Deffensive midfielder. How can we be dependant on him in offensive manners? This is crazy.
Capello has a squad that can only be compared to the one Lippi had in 95-96 and it may be even better.
A formation like 4-3-1-2 is a very balanced formation. And with the turn-over we won't be player dependant.
With it we have 2 centre backs that stay there. Two side back who go offensively from time to time. Two deffiensive midfielders. One of them who drift to the side when a SB go offensively. We have a Wing whether its right or left depending on the match. A creative offensive midfielder that move sideways AND TWO STRIKERS.
Centre back we have : Thuram, Cannvaro, Kovac, Gladstone
Side back: Chielini, Zambrotta, Zebina, Pessotto, Birindelli
Deffensive midfielder: Vieira, Emerson, Blasi, Giannicheda
Side midfilder: Camoranesi, Olivera, Mutu, nedved
Offensive midfielder: Nedved, Mutu and even Camoranesi
Strikers: Del Piero, Ibra, Trezeguet and Zalayata.
Capello on the other hand is playing a classic 4-4-2. Now this could be good if you are playing 4 midfielders in diamond shape with 1 DM. Unfortunately thats not the case.
Limiting Nedved on the left has two disadvatages:
1- Nedveds shot on goal will be limited. His movements will be limited, hence his creatitvity is limited.
2- By keeping Nedved on the left side you are limiting Zambrotta's free runs. Runs which won us many games in the past.
Same applies to Camoranesi on the right. If you remember Juve V Real last season. Camoranesi played the best game of his life. Why? He was playing as an offensive mdifielder behind three strikers. He was as creative as anyone maybe. He reminded me with the Zidane days.
With this formation you are also asking Vieira and Emerson who are Deffesinve mdifielders to be creative and start attacks. While they are world class players, they are in no mean creative/offensive midfielders. They will never be.
This is why whenever we are down by a goal and the other team go back to deffend their lead you find us impotent. You see the best stars in the world lacking the ability to matsh forward. You a team which is down by one goal rather than going forward they start passing the ball to each other at the back seriously clueless.
In all our matches this season in the serie A with th except of Parma we always were the ones who start scoring which is good. In the Serie A it is good to go grab a goal and deffend your lead. In the CL if you are not capable of coming back from a goal or two down you can never win.
Capello has created a team that can deffend its lead, but he sure (atleast I haven't seen that yet) did not create a team capable of standing up after a fall during a match.
If you remember during the Parma match, why did we come back into the game? Is because Camoranesi decided to take matters into his own hands and went to the centre of the field and played as a Offfensive midfielder. He was rewarded by a wonderful goal.
Capello is a world class coach, but his tachtics need to change if he is really targeting the CL.
Sorry for the long post, but I needed to stress out my opinion.
