capello - the best coach in the world? (16 Viewers)

[lestat_1987]

we can not argue with the results, fabio knows what he is doing.
But if we´re gonna label him a genius for re-discovering Blasi, thats just overrating him. Let´s nto forget that he was practically forced to put Blasi there and that even if Blasi hasn´t screwede up yet (which I hope he doesn´t) he is not a proven RB yet. Like Fliakis said, where is the genius in benching an NT-player like Chiellini and a promising defender like Balza, fur plñaying a midfielder.

 

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[Eaglesnake_1]

++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++
Playing a set 11 man team is ignorance if you ask me. Yes, every team has to have a strong nucleus and the core players should play the most football but at the same time you have to be flexible. When you have a big squad as we have here in Turin rotation is necessary, however slight it may be. I find it quite ridiculous that a player of Chiellini's potential is yet to step on to the pitch at this stage of the campaign. How come Balzaretti and Mutu play so seldomly? Why is the trident attack utilised from the start of a game once every blue moon when we have such luxuries in attack? With the amount of options available to Capello there's no reason why we can't change things up every now and again. I'm not saying that we should play a different formation or a completely different team from match to match but Capello is seemingly too stubborn for even small changes in terms of tactics and personel.

Stu,
As long as Capello keep wining with this consistency, any possible critisism is just a luxury.......

 

[sateeh]

Welll watever u guys say here about balzaa and cheillini , and having soo much potential for the future, isnt justified.

No matter how many games u watch on tv, we just dont know what goes on in the training field.Mybe they just dont convince capello enough.Or mybe he just has other plans.Untill now putting blasi in RB was a great thing.
I have to say that i saw an U-21 Italy game and Giorgio didnt convince me at all.
And whether u like it or not , what he is doing is working. And he is a great coach

 

[Maher]

he is a genius in any way you judged him , in rediscovering players in new positions or in winning with many teams in many countries which nobody did it before.

 

[Holygr4le]

++ [ originally posted by sateeh ] ++
Welll watever u guys say here about balzaa and cheillini , and having soo much potential for the future, isnt justified.

No matter how many games u watch on tv, we just dont know what goes on in the training field.Mybe they just dont convince capello enough.Or mybe he just has other plans.Untill now putting blasi in RB was a great thing.
I have to say that i saw an U-21 Italy game and Giorgio didnt convince me at all.
And whether u like it or not , what he is doing is working. And he is a great coach

:thumb:
Loved the part were you mentioned the training field. My point exactly!

 

[Steviee]

Capello is a very good coach, one of the best, but not THE best. His success has always come with top clubs that are already in good positions to win. Milan, Juve, Real, and even Roma were great clubs that were regularly challenging for trophies.
It would be interesting to see if he could take a small club to big success, as Mourinho and Benitez have done.
Rafa winning the Spanish title twice with Valencia in the face of competition from Barca and Real is nothing short of amazing, as was winning the European Cup with Liverpool.

 

[Ascension]

Well, with coaches it is very much an individual question of taste that varies from person to person. But if you look at the cold hard results there is no denying that Fabio Capello is the best coach the game has ever seen.

 

[baggio]

With a statement like that, you're overdoing it.

 

[lestat_1987]

Cap can not coach small teams

 

[sateeh]

++ [ originally posted by Stevie ] ++
Capello is a very good coach, one of the best, but not THE best. His success has always come with top clubs that are already in good positions to win. Milan, Juve, Real, and even Roma were great clubs that were regularly challenging for trophies.
It would be interesting to see if he could take a small club to big success, as Mourinho and Benitez have done.
Rafa winning the Spanish title twice with Valencia in the face of competition from Barca and Real is nothing short of amazing, as was winning the European Cup with Liverpool.

i have to disagree with u there... rafa and mourinho didt have small clubs.
Everyone knows that the biggest 3 clubs in portugal are porto, sporting and benfica.So u cant say that they arent a big club.

Rafa had one of the most successfull clubs in spain in recent years.A squad that Hector Cuper worked soo hard to built.And when rafa went there players like baraja,ayala, and others were already big names

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by lestat_1987 ] ++
Cap can not coach small teams

Do you have proof for your claim?

 

[baggio]

++ [ originally posted by sateeh ] ++


i have to disagree with u there... rafa and mourinho didt have small clubs.
Everyone knows that the biggest 3 clubs in portugal are porto, sporting and benfica.So u cant say that they arent a big club.

Rafa had one of the most successfull clubs in spain in recent years.A squad that Hector Cuper worked soo hard to built.And when rafa went there players like baraja,ayala, and others were already big names

Porto may have been big in Portugal. Put them in context of the Champions League and you'd find it to be quite an achievement on Mourinho's part.

As for Benitez, it would be hard to see how you can discount his credibility. Hector Cuper had built a squad with the likes of Kily Gonzalez and Gaizka Mendieta, both of whom had moved on by the time Rafa came along. It would be unfair to take away his contribution to the careers of Baraja, Ayala and Vincente, because they all blossomed under his management. Add to that, Valencia were not by any stretch the best side in Spain, on paper at least. They still had to contend with Real Madrid who were busy destroying the rest of Europe in the Champions League with acquisitions such as Figo, Zidane and Ronaldo. Barcelona were not far behind either. Nor were Deportivo La Coruna for that matter, with players like Makaay, Tristan, Pandiani and the like going great guns.

++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++
Do you have proof for your claim?

The list of clubs on his resume, speak more for his inabilities to work on the ground level, than his abilities as a super coach.

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by baggio ] ++


The list of clubs on his resume, speak more for his inabilities to work on the ground level, than his abilities as a super coach.

This doesn't mean he can't coach small clubs, he hasn't been tested.

 

[baggio]

Why hasnt he been tested? Its pretty obvious he himself isnt comfortable with the notion.

 

[sateeh]

++ [ originally posted by baggio ] ++



Porto may have been big in Portugal. Put them in context of the Champions League and you'd find it to be quite an achievement on Mourinho's part.

As for Benitez, it would be hard to see how you can discount his credibility. Hector Cuper had built a squad with the likes of Kily Gonzalez and Gaizka Mendieta, both of whom had moved on by the time Rafa came along. It would be unfair to take away his contribution to the careers of Baraja, Ayala and Vincente, because they all blossomed under his management. Add to that, Valencia were not by any stretch the best side in Spain, on paper at least. They still had to contend with Real Madrid who were busy destroying the rest of Europe in the Champions League with acquisitions such as Figo, Zidane and Ronaldo. Barcelona were not far behind either. Nor were Deportivo La Coruna for that matter, with players like Makaay, Tristan, Pandiani and the like going great guns.






The list of clubs on his resume, speak more for his inabilities to work on the ground level, than his abilities as a super coach.

i dont take away anything from both of them, wat they did is a very great thing. But wat i said was just saying that none of these teams r small in context.

Another thing is that if u see the small clubs that capello had and compare them to porto and valencia u would see a huge difference.
And he is noo wizard that can change a whole team.There is a small thing called reality to deal with.

 

[baggio]

Which is what the better part of the members in this thread are saying.

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by baggio ] ++
Why hasnt he been tested? Its pretty obvious he himself isnt comfortable with the notion.

Or not comfortable with the salary.

 

[Eire]

++ [ originally posted by Stevie ] ++
Capello is a very good coach, one of the best, but not THE best. His success has always come with top clubs that are already in good positions to win. Milan, Juve, Real, and even Roma were great clubs that were regularly challenging for trophies.
It would be interesting to see if he could take a small club to big success, as Mourinho and Benitez have done.
Rafa winning the Spanish title twice with Valencia in the face of competition from Barca and Real is nothing short of amazing, as was winning the European Cup with Liverpool.

why hector cuper not long ago got valencia to two champions league finals and anyway both liverpool and valencia are every bit as big as roma.

fair enough mourinho won the champions league with porto but their league was such a stroll that they could focus all their energy on the champions league and all the big clubs played poor that year.

all in all its a matter of opinion and bias.

their are a handfull of between 5-10 top coaches its hard to say who is best they all have different strenghts and weakness and manage at clubs with different virtues and traditions.

 

[baggio]

++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


Or not comfortable with the salary.

If salary is something that still bothers him then he would have moved to the English national team when they offered him the role.

 

[Holygr4le]

Hey..., it´s quite obvius.
If you have the chance to coach teams like Milan, Juve and so on. Why pic teams like Bologna or Lecce?