Capello is going for sure (7 Viewers)

May 4, 2004
11,622
#22
++ [ originally posted by Togon ] ++
I feel i need to open this thread, cause what i wanna say is quite general.

So, I think that Capello wont be Juves trainer for very long, he will fill his contract and than leaves, maybe to Real, maybe somewhere else.

Whatever one might think looking at the average age of our team, Capello's aim is not to build the team of the future And Moggi knows that, i think, and said: ok, just be successfull.

All of his signings were rational and predictable ones, may except Zlatan, but only because we thought Moggi wouldnt pay for him ( Capello wanted him back in Roma as well).

All of his signings were instant success.

May there will be some young faces, like Cassano or Chiellini, but most of the players (and the backup players as well) will be experienced "veterans" like Kovac, maybe Panucci or Giannichedda.

He wont do experimenting,
he doesnt care what happens to the team after he left

He has two more years at Juve, and his aim is the third star.



take it as a guideline for the transfer season:D
Well u are SOOO WRONG!!!
first of.. he dident sign kovac and gianni because of not thinking about the future, he sign'd them becuase we are NOT CHELSEA!!! and they where free! and moggi liked them as well!

second, Juve is a team who need's to win every YEAR! not think about the future to much!

third, How do u know all this? how sure are u that Capello wont stay at Juve for more then just 2 yearS????
 
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Togon

Togon

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  • Thread Starter #23
    ++ [ originally posted by Juve_Kosova ] ++


    Well u are SOOO WRONG!!!
    first of.. he dident sign kovac and gianni because of not thinking about the future, he sign'd them becuase we are NOT CHELSEA!!! and they where free! and moggi liked them as well!

    second, Juve is a team who need's to win every YEAR! not think about the future to much!

    third, How do u know all this? how sure are u that Capello wont stay at Juve for more then just 2 yearS????

    I think some of you misunderstand me.

    I am happy with Capello, It was one of my biggest dreams to see my favourite team under the coaching of the gratest (as i rate him).

    I only have a feeling that he wont stay at Juve forever.

    I have no problem with buliding the team of the present as long as its successfull. For me Capello is enough ensurance that it will be (as it was this season).

    I just wanted to say: when considering transfer moves one should take in account that Capello will mostly pick proven and experienced players.


    What can make Moggi and Capello huge force in the tranfer market is, while Luciano always tries to be smart, Capello nearly always sticks to highest quality signings.

    imo Kovac and Giannichedda are quite high quality signings for backup roles
     

    Cronios

    Juventolog
    Jun 7, 2004
    27,519
    #25
    He wont stay forever, he said he wants to coach Real some time in the future,
    i hope he remains2-3 years, its a bad think for teams stability to change coaches often
     

    Chxta

    Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
    Nov 1, 2004
    12,088
    #26
    And do all of you think that Luxemburgo is going to leave Madrid 2moro? I don't think so...

    Personally, I think the whole Capello going, Capello staying is as usual just another smokescreen.

    I see il Don at Juve for a little while (not as long as Fergie at ManU though :rolleyes: ).

    Remember this was the same fellow who as a player moved from Roma to Juve. And since he began coaching, with the exception of Roma (who aren't a big club anyways), he has won the CL in everyplace he coached.

    Fabio Capello (born June 18, 1946) is an Italian football manager. He is currently the head coach of Juventus, one of the biggest clubs in Serie A.

    From 2000 to 2004, he was the coach of A.S. Roma, winning the 2001 scudetto, or the championship of Serie A. In the beginning of the 1990s he led A.C. Milan to the European Cup, a feat he would repeat in the mid-nineties with Real Madrid.

    Prior to coaching, Capello was capped 32 times for the Italian national team, scoring eight goals. As a player Capello played for Roma, Juventus, and Milan.
    Capello will be with us at least until we win the CL. Then, and only then will I develop any fears about his staying or leaving...

    IMO, his next target will probably be to coach the Azzurri, and you can't begrudge a man the right to coach his country, not at all.

    But then let's look at it this way: Lippi's fate as coach of the Azzurri is dependent to a large extent on his performance in Germany, and then in Euro 2008 if he does well in Germany. So who is betting against Capello being with us until then? Not me...
     
    Jan 7, 2004
    29,704
    #27
    ++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
    I'd take Capello's tailor over Lippi's anyday.

    as bad as capello may be, i wont take one more of lippi's "ok guys, things arent going as well as i was hoping for, so im a leave now for a while. But dont worry, as soon as you guys become competitive again, i am coming back"
     
    Sep 1, 2002
    12,745
    #28
    ++ [ originally posted by m_elayyan ] ++


    why , he is the best in the world , i hope he stays forever with juve :(
    A winner wherever he goes


    Giovanni Trapattoni

    Knockout competitions three cups in two countries (two with Juventus and one with Bayern), two national Super Cups (Inter and Bayern), six European trophies (one European Cup, one Cup Winners' Cup and two UEFA Cups with Juventus, plus another UEFA Cup with Inter), a European Super Cup with Juventus and, lastly, a Toyota Cup. Oh yes a championship with Benfica.
    Thats 21 honours, including nine championships in three separate countries – seven in Italy (six with Juventus, one with Inter), one in Germany with Bayern and his most recent feat in Portugal at the helm of Benfica.


    Don't bet against Stuttgart this coming season.
     

    Chxta

    Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
    Nov 1, 2004
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    #29


    Juventus have now been crowned champions of Italy for the 28th time but a number of people had already assigned them the title on May 28, 2004. It was on that day that the football world awoke to the astonishing, simply unbelievable news, that Fabio Capello was the new Bianconeri boss.

    It was widely expected that Monaco’s Didier Deschamps had pipped Cesare Prandelli for the Turin hotseat, following the departure of five-time Scudetto winner Marcello Lippi. Yet it was the man who once claimed he "would never join Juve" who was asked to return the Old Lady to her former greatness.

    Don Fabio certainly had the pedigree to take on such a role. After all, he won the championship at his first attempt with Milan, before collecting three more with the Rossoneri, and Real Madrid. He later even won a Scudetto at Roma, a club who have incidentally gone through four tacticians since his departure less than a year ago.

    There is no doubt that Capello has been the most important factor in the outfit’s rejuvenation after last season’s disappointing campaign. He came in with clear ideas and the club expertly met his transfer needs by signing Emerson, who was a key player under him in Rome, plus Fabio Cannavaro and Zlatan Ibrahimovic – two men he’d tried to net for some years while in the capital. The title, despite Milan’s efforts, duly followed.

    Yet don’t expect the Juve faithful to be singing his name in the streets of the northern city too loudly. He may have again installed their club as champions of Italy but a certain amount of hostility remains. The fans have forgiven Emerson and Jonathan Zebina for their Roman past, but Capello is still tainted with numerous anti-Juve outbursts and his treatment of crowd favourite Alex Del Piero hasn’t helped either.

    It’s something that Capello, a former Juve player, seemingly doesn’t have a problem with though. He’s been able to retain his professionalism and simply get on with the job he was hired for, with grit and determination that now characterises his side.

    "My footballing philosophy is linked to that of (Juve legend) Gianpiero Boniperti," said Capello in pre-season. "I once asked him whether the result is the most important thing, he replied by informing me that it isn’t the most important thing but it is the only thing that matters. I think you can only enjoy football if you win, therefore I ask the fans to judge me on my results."

    The Juventini may not be ready to offer their love to the tactician but they will have to admit he’s done well with what he’s had to work with. Nobody is suggesting that the club don’t have world class players but their squad is weaker than Milan’s options and possibly even those of Inter. Fortunately Capello’s brain was enough to nullify Milan’s beauty.

    "He deserves great merit, especially as I think Milan and Inter do have better squads," former Torino boss Giancarlo Camolese recently stated. "Yet Capello has been able to get the best out of his players."

    Ex-Juventus defender Sergio Brio has also paid tribute to Capello. "This Scudetto belongs to him," he suggested. "Perhaps no other Coach has made such an impact on a Juventus title. He’s perfectly looked after the changing room, even if a few people have criticised him for being too tough, especially with Del Piero. But the results say it all and let us not forget that Juve have been top of the table from start to finish."

    Although undone by Rafael Benitez’s ‘catenaccio’ in the Champions’ League this season, Capello’s latest success has underlined his status as one of Europe’s master tacticians. Replacing Lippi was never going to be easy for the Italian giants but they may well have substituted the ‘best’ with someone even better. This, ominously for their rivals, may not be Capello’s first and last League title in Turin…

    From Channel 4
     

    Stu

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    Jul 14, 2002
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    #31
    Capello is a top coach but all of this praise for what he's done this season is IMO uncalled for. He has been good, but not great, and certainly not difference making. Thanks for guiding us to the Scudetto, Cap, but please don't make some of the same mistakes you made this season next season.
     

    Mr. Gol

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    Sep 15, 2004
    3,472
    #34
    Although I personally don't like the way Capello treats some players (Del Piero) I have to say I do consider him to be the best coach in the world and the only one who could transform the nightmare 2002/2003 team into Scudetto winners. He plays defensive football with absolutely no creative freedom, but I'd rather win the Champions League with it then play like Barcelona and get thrown out after the first round.
     
    May 4, 2004
    11,622
    #35
    ++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++



    as bad as capello may be, i wont take one more of lippi's "ok guys, things arent going as well as i was hoping for, so im a leave now for a while. But dont worry, as soon as you guys become competitive again, i am coming back"
    Shqipe... U are so Right... damn! nobody could have said it better! :thumb:
     
    May 4, 2004
    11,622
    #36
    ++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++
    Capello is a top coach but all of this praise for what he's done this season is IMO uncalled for. He has been good, but not great, and certainly not difference making. Thanks for guiding us to the Scudetto, Cap, but please don't make some of the same mistakes you made this season next season.
    WHAT???????????????? :eek:

    some ppl here are drunk :)
     

    Stu

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    Jul 14, 2002
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    #38
    ++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++
    Sorry Stu, BUT ARE YOU HIGH?
    No, I'm not as a matter of fact. Do you believe that Capello was the key man in our league success this term? I don't. It's true, he's done well and I acknowledged that in my previous post. The squad he had to work with wasn't as strong as those of our Milanese rivals but he got the best out of Zebina, Camoranesi and Ibrahimovic, guys who weren't expected to contribute as much as they did. He fixed our defensive problems with limited additions which I commend him for, but he wasn't by any means our saviour.

    IMHO the majority of the blame for our CL exit falls on Don Fabio's shoulders. He made a number of tactical errors in the second leg but I won't bother to go further into them as I'm sure you recognised them yourself. In Serie A we dropped points foolishly (against teams that we should be beating badly) because of his Trapattoni-esque score and defend tactic. Examples that come to mind are away to Parma and Cagliari.

    I suppose at the end of the day this doesn't matter much, does it? Who cares, we won the title afterall. Results count, nothing else. If we play boring, unattractive, defensive football and win then everyone (myself included) are happy, so let's just stick with that. NO THANK YOU! I say this not because I want to see us attack and entertain, but because attacking football can so often be the best form of defence. Why leave things to chance by scoring first and then sitting back against teams that we can easily score three or four against if we tried? Personally I don't think the fact that our best run of form this season came when the system was 4-3-3 is a coincidence.

    Kudos to Capello for taking us from 3rd in 03-04 to 1st in 04-05 but those of you who don't think there's room for improvement in this team need to wake up. We lack potency in attack and if we want to do well in Europe, which I have come to understand is the club's prime objective, we need to change this.
     

    Stu

    Senior Member
    Jul 14, 2002
    17,557
    #39
    ++ [ originally posted by Juve_Kosova ] ++

    WHAT???????????????? :eek:

    some ppl here are drunk :)
    I'm not even going to bother with you because the whole point of a forum is for people to discuss matters with opinionated arguments. I state my opinion, you disagree with it and I'm therefore a drunkard or I'm high. Care to state why Capello is in your view so great or are you just going to make inane, useless comments like the one above? I used to respect your opinion regardless of if I agreed or disagreed with it but I don't see why I should respect it any longer if you're going to make comments like that.
     
    May 4, 2004
    11,622
    #40
    ++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


    No, I'm not as a matter of fact. Do you believe that Capello was the key man in our league success this term? I don't. It's true, he's done well and I acknowledged that in my previous post. The squad he had to work with wasn't as strong as those of our Milanese rivals but he got the best out of Zebina, Camoranesi and Ibrahimovic, guys who weren't expected to contribute as much as they did.
    ## Yes

    ## Exacely

    and **** the way we play as long as we WIN!!!!

    anyway, i respect your point of view on Cap..

    Forza Juve !
     

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