Can't beat quality of life in Scandinavia, says world ranking (2 Viewers)

Geof

Senior Member
May 14, 2004
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#22
Argh.. I hate this kind of rankings.

Nordic countries are more environmental and have achieved social peace more than anywhere in the world.
Granted.

What does it say about actual quality of life? That's so subjective.

I lived for one year in Berlin. And I have to say it offered me the best quality of life I've seen. Restaurants, bars, clubs everywhere you look, and pretty cheap too; A great alternative scene, a free atmosphere, bruising modern art, great mobility, a lot of space to live, friendliest people I ever met. Yet, high unemployment, and not rich.

Saying nordic countries offer the best quality of life implies that you earn enough to go out; buy what you want (including alcohol at a normal price), that you don't mind the cold & the dark, etc...

And how could Paris be 4th best city to live in? Huge traffic problems, unfriendly people, pollution, hard as hell to find a decent place to live in, not to mention riots. Go and ask the lads in the Cités how they feel about the ranking.
 
Oct 3, 2004
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#26
Fine, so the standard of living is top quality.

However, I hear there's a high suicide rate in Scandinavia. Mostly teenagers-young adults...apparently from the overwhelming situation should one fail school/university. Saw it on a BBC documentary once. basically if the kid doesn't make it in school, he's screwed and won't be guaranteed any good job after that.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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#27
With the risk of going off-topic, what is this talk about Belgium possibly splitting up into two nations? Anything serious or just media blowing things out of proportion?
There are deep gaps between the expectations of Flemish and Walloon politicians who are trying to form a government. I wouldn't say Belgium is on the verge of splitting, but it's definitely a moment of crisis.
 

soulslider

Rregula sound
May 16, 2006
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#29
I want to move away from Croatia. Life here sucks. But then again, maybe it is not up to country, maybe it is up to me.
It's probably you.:p

I don't like here either but everytime i go away somewhere it's all great but to be honest i wouldn't live anywhere else except in Croatia.
Only thing i would change is the city where i live, you live in a pretty decent town i wouldn't mind living in Rijeka, i lived in Crikvenica for nine years.
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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#30
I don't like here either but everytime i go away somewhere it's all great but to be honest i wouldn't live anywhere else except in Croatia.
I'm the same with Scotland. Its nae great, but I don't really fancy living somewhere else.



A recent survey showed that Scottish kids are the most unhappy in Western Europe.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
#31
Isnt the church influential in Scandinavian nations?
The church exists only.

Fine, so the standard of living is top quality.

However, I hear there's a high suicide rate in Scandinavia. Mostly teenagers-young adults...apparently from the overwhelming situation should one fail school/university. Saw it on a BBC documentary once. basically if the kid doesn't make it in school, he's screwed and won't be guaranteed any good job after that.
I would actually like to see numbers about this suicide rate thing. It's not that we see someone committing suicide everyday when going to work.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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#32
"Finland has one of the highest rates of suicide mortality in the world. While the suicide rate per 100 000 mean population was 27.2 (males and females together) in the year 1995, it was 14.2 (1996) in Sweden, 12.6 (1995) in Norway and 10.1 (1995) in Iceland. When compared with other European countries, the suicide rate was 7.5 (1994) in Great Britain, 20.8 (1994) in France and 9.8 (1995) in the Netherlands. Respectively, the rates for suicides were 16.7 (1994) in Japan, 13.5 (1995) in Canada, and 11.9 (1995) in the USA (Statistics Finland 1999a).

Statistics kept on the deaths due to suicide in Finland are considered reliable. The Finnish law requires that in every case of a violent, sudden or unexpected death, the possibility of suicide is assessed by police and medico-legal investigations involving autopsy and forensic examinations (edited: as is the case in Belgium). At present, a medico-legal investigation is conducted in majority of the suicides in Finland. It is estimated that about 90% of the suicides committed in Finland are correctly classified as suicides (Karkola 1990). On the other hand, expressed in a different way, official suicide rates have been found to be underestimated by 10% (Öhberg & Lönnqvist 1998b).

Research into suicides in Finland has resulted in many scientific reports, which consider the aetiology of suicides from different viewpoints. For instance, suicides have been found to be strongly associated with mental disorders (Isometsä 1994a, Marttunen et al. 1991, Lönnqvist et al. 1995, Henriksson 1996, Heilä 1999, Lönnqvist 2000a,b) and/or alcohol and other substance abuse (Marttunen 1994, Pirkola 1999a). In addition, adverse events in the lives of suicidal persons have been found to be a common factor before the suicide (Heikkinen 1994, Marttunen 1994). These reports have originated from the National Suicide Prevention Project in Finland. The project was set up in 1986 by the Finnish National Board of Health to examine various risk factors linked with suicidal behaviour and to reduce suicide mortality in Finland by about 20% (Lönnqvist 1988, Lönnqvist et al. 1993, Beskow et al. 1999). The findings of this project have had significant implications for suicide prevention and research in Finland."

from: http://herkules.oulu.fi/isbn9514256042/html/x335.html
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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#39
Well done.

I don't like Scotland or the UK enough to bother defending it.
I've never tried living there but from what I heard from a Scottish friend of mine who lives here with his Swedish woman and two kids is that he would never live with his family in Scotland anymore. He says it many times that here it is way much better.
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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#40
I've never tried living there but from what I heard from a Scottish friend of mine who lives here with his Swedish woman and two kids is that he would never live with his family in Scotland anymore. He says it many times that here it is way much better.
I haven't been to Scandinavia at all, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it is nicer. And I stay in arguably the nicest, and certainly wealthiest, bit of Scotland.
 

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