Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (15 Viewers)

CAPITANO

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Jul 12, 2006
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“Juventus are used to play their games on the pitch and try to win. Seeing that this match will be played in Rome, this is the most suitable place to show you our strategies. Since we have understood the possible result of the petition that we submitted 14 months ago, I asked the club’s lawyers to think and devise a strategy about the action to undertake.”

In the press conference occurred at the Hotel Baglioni in Rome, the President Andrea Agnelli used clear, simple words, without double meanings, to communicate Juventus’ wish to continue their battle to achieve the deserved fairness.

Following the result of the Federal Council which took place on 18th July and confirmed the absolute inequality between the treatment received by Juventus and that towards other clubs about the facts occurred in 2006, the club announced their intention to go on. And today, along with lawyers Michele Briamonte and Luigi Chiappero, and Prof. Pasquale Landi - holder of the chair in administrative law at the University of Tor Vergata in Rome, president Agnelli explained Juventus’ next moves:

“We’ll file an appeal to TNAS [National Court of Arbitration for Sports], and we’ll forward our petitions to the Director of Public Prosecutions in Lazio at the Audit Board, to the Prefect in Rome, to the Ministry of Interior, to the Management Control Officer at CONI and to UEFA Executive Commitee. This is just the beginning of our actions, and can’t be comprehensive of all our future undertakings.
 

Ken

The Dutch Touch
Aug 17, 2007
13,340
So, we're actually trying to get back what's ours? I'm glad to read we're willing to fight for that stuff. Go get them Andrea.
 

solojuve1897

Mille Grazie Pavel
Sep 17, 2008
391
Juve continue Calciopoli fight

Juventus have revealed their next moves as their fight for what they perceive as Calciopoli justice continues.

President Andrea Agnelli and a number of Juve’s legal team held a Press conference in Rome today where they outlined their plans.

“Juventus are used to playing their games on the pitch and trying to win,” the Bianconero chief stated.

“Seeing that this match will be played in Rome, this is the most suitable place to show you our strategies.

“Since we have understood the possible result of the petition that we submitted to the FIGC 14 months ago, I asked the club’s lawyers to think about and devise a strategy about the action to undertake.”

Juve were stripped of the 2005 and 2006 championships for their part in Calciopoli. The first of those Scudetti was unassigned, while the second was handed on to the San Siro giants.

However, following revelations from the legal trial in Naples which suggested that there were more widespread attempts to influence referees, including from Inter, Juve asked the FIGC to review the case.

The FIGC’s executive committee, after consulting their own lawyers, ruled last month that they had no power to strip the Calciopoli tainted title from the Nerazzurri.

“We’ll now file an appeal to TNAS [National Court of Arbitration for Sports],” added Agnelli on Wednesday afternoon.

“We’ll also forward our petitions to the Director of Public Prosecutions in Lazio at the Audit Board, to the Prefect in Rome, to the Ministry of Interior, to the Management Control Officer at CONI and to UEFA’s Executive Committee.

“This is just the beginning of our actions and can’t be comprehensive of all our future undertakings.”

Agnelli continued: “We won the 2005-06 Scudetto on the pitch thanks to 91 points, but it was delivered to someone else by an administrative act.

“It was defined as the title of honesty, but, at most, it was a prescribed Scudetto.

“There was a total difference in treatment and this, for us, is unacceptable.”

Juventus were demoted to Serie B in 2006, while Milan, Fiorentina, Lazio and Reggina were handed point penalties.

http://www.football-italia.net/aug10q.html
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
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Hard to get excited about this when knowing the whole thing could have been averted in the first place by just going through with the TAR appeal five years ago.
Yes and no. This legal path stems from new facts, new evidence, that has come to light because of the hard work of Luciano Moggi and his legal team. It is in light of this new evidence, that it has become CLEAR that we have been treated unfairly.

If we had taken all of these paths in 2006, with a lot less evidence than we have now, there was a very big chance of our appeals being futile. Now, we have a very good case and we intend to make the most of it.

I'm really grateful to Agnelli for wanting to pursue this. But most of all, I'm grateful to the fantastic Luciano Moggi, in whom I never lost faith. Luciano Moggi = superjuventino.
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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We'll never know if we could've escaped relegation back then. Maybe, maybe not. A lot of the evidence was making this out to be "Moggipoli", so I don't think there were any guarantees that we would've stayed up. You have to admit, the case that we have now is much stronger. There's actual proof of discrimination and hopefully we can get them on culpability, which would have been impossible back then. Remember also that we did appeal some, but it wasn't enough to save us from relegation. We were originally handed Serie B with -30 which due to our reclaim was turned into -17.
 

Mark

The Informer
Administrator
Dec 19, 2003
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"Agnelli? Non c'è niente da commentare, spero che vada in vacanza così si rilassa un pò".

Agnelli? "There's nothing to comment on, I hope he goes on vacation so he can relax a bit."

- Moratti
 

adriano_c

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May 26, 2009
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We'll never know if we could've escaped relegation back then. Maybe, maybe not. A lot of the evidence was making this out to be "Moggipoli", so I don't think there were any guarantees that we would've stayed up. You have to admit, the case that we have now is much stronger. There's actual proof of discrimination and hopefully we can get them on culpability, which would have been impossible back then. Remember also that we did appeal some, but it wasn't enough to save us from relegation. We were originally handed Serie B with -30 which due to our reclaim was turned into -17.
I can't recall specific names at the moment, though I believe they're likely in this very thread, but there's an interview with someone from the committee that did the relegating wherein he states we'd have avoided it.

The evidence towards proving an irregular system of justice is strong now, sure, and that goes a way in proving relative "innocence" or unfair treatment. However, back then, it would have been (the appeal) more so an issue of them not having sufficient evidence/grounds to order relegation in the first place.

As everyone knows now we were put down based on an extremely flimsy case that wouldn't have held up to a civil court's scrutiny. Even in Italy. Hence the dumbfounded reaction by many when the appeal was retracted.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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Against Serie A, as I understand it, not Juventus.
From what I remember, it wasn't just against Serie A, but it was also a situation where they threatened Juve with Serie C, threatened to remove CL qualification spots, and bar the Italian NT from competitions.

I could be wrong, but I do remember the ramifications basically destroying Italian football ona domestic and international scale if juventus appealed
 

adriano_c

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May 26, 2009
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From what I remember, it wasn't just against Serie A, but it was also a situation where they threatened Juve with Serie C, threatened to remove CL qualification spots, and bar the Italian NT from competitions.

I could be wrong, but I do remember the ramifications basically destroying Italian football ona domestic and international scale if juventus appealed
UEFA, you mean? They wouldn't have had "jurisdiction" to put Juve in C, unless that was in turn FIGC's response. Either way, from what I recall it was a bit of a soft warning from them (UEFA). Along the lines of how mixing sport and civil lanes was not in their interests and in turn indirectly suggesting that all Italian teams would be blocked from Euro competitions for however long.

In hindsight, knowing how the club's been treated and carried on since, would it really have mattered to us if Inter, Milan, whatever teams were to have suffered as well?

Italian football's at its lowest point in absolutely ages. I personally wouldn't have cared had it been "destroyed." At least we wouldn't have been alone.
 

solojuve1897

Mille Grazie Pavel
Sep 17, 2008
391
Juventus president Andrea Agnelli ready to head to Court of Arbitration for Sport over 2006 Calciopoli Scudetto

Club president has made clear they will continue their fight for the revoked championship as they prepare a legal case for the CAS to consider.

Juventus president Andrea Agnelli is set to take the club's case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in an attempt to get the 2006 Scudetto reinstated.

Last month the Italian FA (FIGC) ruled there were no legal grounds to revoke the hotly-debated Scudetto from Inter and hand it back to Juventus who were stripped of the title in 2006 following the Calciopoli scandal.

Juventus' appeal was based on the Calciopoli 2 proceedings at the Tribunal of Naples and they tried to show from evidence that has emerged in court that Inter were also involved in Calciopoli, having contacts with referees and designators at the time of the scandal.

Despite the FIGC's decision, Agnelli will not concede defeat, and maintains his club have every right to fight through all the legal avenues.

"The system which punished Juventus was incompetent. We have been speaking with our legal team and we will be ready to present our case to the CAS so we can get those titles reassigned," Agnelli told the press.

"We will adopt the following measures by going to the CAS (Court of Arbitration for Sport), the Attorney General at the Court of Auditors, the Rome prefect office, CONI Delegate of management Control and the Uefa Executive Committee.

"We won the Scudetto on the pitch in 2006 with 91 points and then another club [Inter] saw it handed to them on a table."

Meanwhile, Juventus resume their pre-season action when they meet Real Betis on Saturday.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/ital...dent-andrea-agnelli-ready-to-head-to-court-of
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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Wow, this is huge...not only are we hitting up all courts in Italy(sports & civil), but we are taking this shit to UEFA. The heat just isn't on FIGC anymore, rather on everyone it seems.

Forza Andrea!

I like that he says they won't stop there either if things don't go in Juve's favor, justice that is.

:tuttosport:


I also like Moratti's response, that tard has nothing to comment. Man this is great, with Juve going to all the top courts and CONI/UEFA...the media attention is only going to get hotter. This is fantastic news.
 

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