Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (29 Viewers)
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Surely, if as the Juve statement implies, Inter are found guilty of doing even more than moggi was convicted of, and we were punished for, action MUST be taken against inter...demotion+titles stripped...is my dream for those pigfuckers. We aren't desperate for money. We have served our time, Now it is THEIR turn to suffer the same fate we did, for the same crime...
Moratti has taken a swipe at Juve's bid to have the Scudetto...
Inter president Massimo Moratti has taken news of Juventus' formal request to have the 2006 title revoked with a pinch of salt.
On Monday the Juventus board announced a request had been sent to the Italian Calcio authorities with their request to have that title stripped from Inter, and they said the decision was born from the ongoing Calciopoli trial in Naples in which calls between Inter and referee designators have been uncovered.
Moratti has his doubts though. He claims Juve's move is more of a political duck hunt than anything else.
"I think that they are doing this for the fans, and not for what happened in the past. From a political point of view it is a gesture that can stand up," Moratti is quoted as saying on Calcionews24.com.
"But I don't have a clue as to why or how much they believe in this."
So far Inter (both players and the mangement) have maintained an indifferent attitude towards whatever allegations thrown at them atleast in the media.
Is it deliberate or the FIGC have already agreed among themselves to wipe everything under the rug?
Is someone gonna take somebody for a ride? It all stinks...
Inter president Massimo Moratti has taken news of Juventus' formal request to have the 2006 title revoked with a pinch of salt.
On Monday the Juventus board announced a request had been sent to the Italian Calcio authorities with their request to have that title stripped from Inter, and they said the decision was born from the ongoing Calciopoli trial in Naples in which calls between Inter and referee designators have been uncovered.
Moratti has his doubts though. He claims Juve's move is more of a political duck hunt than anything else.
"I think that they are doing this for the fans, and not for what happened in the past. From a political point of view it is a gesture that can stand up," Moratti is quoted as saying on Calcionews24.com.
"But I don't have a clue as to why or how much they believe in this."
So far Inter (both players and the mangement) have maintained an indifferent attitude towards whatever allegations thrown at them atleast in the media.
Is it deliberate or the FIGC have already agreed among themselves to wipe everything under the rug?
Is someone gonna take somebody for a ride? It all stinks...
The world would probably be a much better place if Moratti just died. It would be better for him too. He's so full of anger and frustration. He can buy a million titles, he can bribe a million officials, it won't matter. The anger and the sadness will still be there. It's better to end things here, Massimo (by the way, how wrong can a name be?).
I read on the day’s calciopoli updates and there isn’t really anything substantial. All parties asked that further calls be transcribed but we don’t know what is said.
Ancelotti’s statement was useless. He expressed an opinion and said that Gattuso saw Moggi leave the referee’s locker room. He didn’t say when. They were allowed to go into the change rooms before and after so it might be nothing. Odds are Gattuso will have to come in and explain now. Last time this happened it was Figo who had to admit that he didn’t see anything and was forced to pay a 3000 Euro fine to Moggi. When Facchetti got suspended for a few months it was because he went in at halftime so you can see how either way, it matters little.
Finally Juve’s lawyer Michele Briamonte formally requested the revocation of the 2006 title but the 10 page document went a touch further than most reports initially stated. They are asking that all newly implicated parties be treated with the same severity that Juventus were subjected to. Their lawyer is a Grande Stevens product so you can see why they are leaning more towards the “All Guilty” approach than the “let’s liberate Moggi” approach.
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=7&a=179639
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=7&a=179588
Ancelotti’s statement was useless. He expressed an opinion and said that Gattuso saw Moggi leave the referee’s locker room. He didn’t say when. They were allowed to go into the change rooms before and after so it might be nothing. Odds are Gattuso will have to come in and explain now. Last time this happened it was Figo who had to admit that he didn’t see anything and was forced to pay a 3000 Euro fine to Moggi. When Facchetti got suspended for a few months it was because he went in at halftime so you can see how either way, it matters little.
Finally Juve’s lawyer Michele Briamonte formally requested the revocation of the 2006 title but the 10 page document went a touch further than most reports initially stated. They are asking that all newly implicated parties be treated with the same severity that Juventus were subjected to. Their lawyer is a Grande Stevens product so you can see why they are leaning more towards the “All Guilty” approach than the “let’s liberate Moggi” approach.
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=7&a=179639
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=7&a=179588
Calciopoli Watch: Chelsea Coach Carlo Ancelotti Gives Evidence In Court, Luciano Moggi Claims Juventus Left It Late For 2006 Title Revocation Request
The Calciopoli trial in Naples resumed on Tuesday, and all the hype was around Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti, who was called in as a witness.
Judge Teresa Casoria got proceedings underway at 10:15 CET and the hearing started with Pierluigi Pairetto's defence team asking the court if they could present a further 50 calls to be transcribed on top of the 74 that were handed over by Luciano Moggi and have already been accepted.
Public prosecutor Giuseppe Narducci, prosecuting, questioned the request though. He told the court: "These calls have been available for three years and no one has ever asked for them. Why are the defences asking for them now?"
Narducci then asked the court for permission to obtain the transmission of the programme 'Matrix' that was recently aired on Italian television in which Moggi spoke about the Swiss SIM Card affair.
As the hearing continued, it was revealed that the FIGC's own investigation into the batch of new evidence in Naples has been put back further. They will not be able to get to work until a further 60 calls have been transcribed. The earliest investigation start date has been estimated for June 18 - when the World Cup is in full swing and two days before Italy's second Group E match against New Zealand.
There was then a media scrum in room 216 of the Tribunal of Naples as Ancelotti arrived. Order was soon restored and the Chelsea manager was questioned by the prosecution who began to examine him over his time at both Milan, and his previous spell at Juventus.
In particular Ancelotti reflected on the 2004-05 season.
"My sensation is that Milan felt defrauded," he told the court.
"As for Moggi, I had never seen him in the referee dressing room when Milan played Juventus because I was not there. But, [Gennaro] Gattuso did tell me that he saw Moggi in the referees' dressing rooms after a Milan-Juventus match."
The match in question was Juve's 1-0 win at San Siro which meant they won the title. Pierluigi Collina was the referee in that game.
The prosecution continued to ask Ancelotti about Moggi, and the coach denied knowledge of any conditioning of the league fixtures.
Having heard a brief statement from Fabio Vignaroli, Judge Teresa Casoria then adjourned the hearing until May 25, when the prosecution will question Manchester City coach Roberto Mancini.
Meanwhile, Moggi has slammed Juventus for not taking action earlier in relation to their request to have the 2006 Scudetto revoked from Inter. On Monday the club lodged a formal request with the football authorities to launch an enquiry as to whether there are grounds for Inter's title to be stripped following the emergence of calls involving the club at the trial.
"They [Juventus] should have done it before, but it is also good now," he told the press outside court.
Ancelotti was also asked what he thought about Juve's move, but the newly crowned Premier League champion declined to get drawn into the subject.
The case continues.
Goal
The Calciopoli trial in Naples resumed on Tuesday, and all the hype was around Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti, who was called in as a witness.
Judge Teresa Casoria got proceedings underway at 10:15 CET and the hearing started with Pierluigi Pairetto's defence team asking the court if they could present a further 50 calls to be transcribed on top of the 74 that were handed over by Luciano Moggi and have already been accepted.
Public prosecutor Giuseppe Narducci, prosecuting, questioned the request though. He told the court: "These calls have been available for three years and no one has ever asked for them. Why are the defences asking for them now?"
Narducci then asked the court for permission to obtain the transmission of the programme 'Matrix' that was recently aired on Italian television in which Moggi spoke about the Swiss SIM Card affair.
As the hearing continued, it was revealed that the FIGC's own investigation into the batch of new evidence in Naples has been put back further. They will not be able to get to work until a further 60 calls have been transcribed. The earliest investigation start date has been estimated for June 18 - when the World Cup is in full swing and two days before Italy's second Group E match against New Zealand.
There was then a media scrum in room 216 of the Tribunal of Naples as Ancelotti arrived. Order was soon restored and the Chelsea manager was questioned by the prosecution who began to examine him over his time at both Milan, and his previous spell at Juventus.
In particular Ancelotti reflected on the 2004-05 season.
"My sensation is that Milan felt defrauded," he told the court.
"As for Moggi, I had never seen him in the referee dressing room when Milan played Juventus because I was not there. But, [Gennaro] Gattuso did tell me that he saw Moggi in the referees' dressing rooms after a Milan-Juventus match."
The match in question was Juve's 1-0 win at San Siro which meant they won the title. Pierluigi Collina was the referee in that game.
The prosecution continued to ask Ancelotti about Moggi, and the coach denied knowledge of any conditioning of the league fixtures.
Having heard a brief statement from Fabio Vignaroli, Judge Teresa Casoria then adjourned the hearing until May 25, when the prosecution will question Manchester City coach Roberto Mancini.
Meanwhile, Moggi has slammed Juventus for not taking action earlier in relation to their request to have the 2006 Scudetto revoked from Inter. On Monday the club lodged a formal request with the football authorities to launch an enquiry as to whether there are grounds for Inter's title to be stripped following the emergence of calls involving the club at the trial.
"They [Juventus] should have done it before, but it is also good now," he told the press outside court.
Ancelotti was also asked what he thought about Juve's move, but the newly crowned Premier League champion declined to get drawn into the subject.
The case continues.
Goal
For the record they have already have the taped conversation in which Moggi has apparently claimed Collina being too objective and non cooperative that elevated that bald weirdo to the stature of Jesus.
Collina is Galliani's side kick, that was well established in the recent tapes. Are Milan backtracking on this case because of the Collina angle? Don't think its going to move forward. Mark my words, both Ancellotti and Gattuso would backtrack at some point and Moggi would still be cursing in the dark..its a stalemate thats how all other allegations gonna shape up eventually.
I dont see any progress being made in this trail, if Inter have their Scudetto revoked, Moratti would definitity tag a compenstation for that probably would demand a life ban for Moggi - he can easily arm twist FIGC and make things done.
I reckon the power brokers in the back end have reached some kinda of agreement before they went over to Naples. ..Scudetto would be revoked but Moggi would be banned for life.
The best thing would be forget about the Scudetto , stop banging heads on the wall and let Moggi back in to mainstream football asap. The damage done in the last four years is immense, the sooner he returns the better for Juventus atleast from the footballing perspective. These days with the kinda of money Real Madrid, Chelsea and City are pumping in the transfer market...Secco, Blanc and his sidekicks can easily end up buring 80M once again on a Melo and Luca Toni.
Collina is Galliani's side kick, that was well established in the recent tapes. Are Milan backtracking on this case because of the Collina angle? Don't think its going to move forward. Mark my words, both Ancellotti and Gattuso would backtrack at some point and Moggi would still be cursing in the dark..its a stalemate thats how all other allegations gonna shape up eventually.
I dont see any progress being made in this trail, if Inter have their Scudetto revoked, Moratti would definitity tag a compenstation for that probably would demand a life ban for Moggi - he can easily arm twist FIGC and make things done.
I reckon the power brokers in the back end have reached some kinda of agreement before they went over to Naples. ..Scudetto would be revoked but Moggi would be banned for life.
The best thing would be forget about the Scudetto , stop banging heads on the wall and let Moggi back in to mainstream football asap. The damage done in the last four years is immense, the sooner he returns the better for Juventus atleast from the footballing perspective. These days with the kinda of money Real Madrid, Chelsea and City are pumping in the transfer market...Secco, Blanc and his sidekicks can easily end up buring 80M once again on a Melo and Luca Toni.
Haha In Italy when you have a certain level of familiarity with a person you address them as “tu”. If it is a person that you must respect or a person you are less familiar with you say “lei”. It’s like Spanish where you can use “tu” or “Usted”.
Acelotti’s main argument was that De Santis and Moggi were so friendly that they would refer to each other as “tu” as opposed to “lei”.
Lawyer Gallinelli: You said De Santis refererred to Moggi as “tu”
Ancelotti: Yes
Avv. Gallinelli: And to the players?
Ancelotti: He would say “tu”
Avv. Gallinelli: And You?
Ancelotti: He would refer to me as “tu”
Solid argumet Carlo, thanks for showing up.
Regarding the 1-0 win ove Milan, maybe I’m thinkig of another game but wasn’t the referee Collia ad didn’t he hate us and go to secret dinners with Galliani and Meani?
In ay case Gattuso couldn’t have seen Moggi go in that direction at half time because of how the Meazza is. The player and referee dressing rooms are on opposite sides of the stadium. That is the argument they got Figo with.
Acelotti’s main argument was that De Santis and Moggi were so friendly that they would refer to each other as “tu” as opposed to “lei”.
Lawyer Gallinelli: You said De Santis refererred to Moggi as “tu”
Ancelotti: Yes
Avv. Gallinelli: And to the players?
Ancelotti: He would say “tu”
Avv. Gallinelli: And You?
Ancelotti: He would refer to me as “tu”
Solid argumet Carlo, thanks for showing up.
Regarding the 1-0 win ove Milan, maybe I’m thinkig of another game but wasn’t the referee Collia ad didn’t he hate us and go to secret dinners with Galliani and Meani?
In ay case Gattuso couldn’t have seen Moggi go in that direction at half time because of how the Meazza is. The player and referee dressing rooms are on opposite sides of the stadium. That is the argument they got Figo with.