I seriously am amazed and digusted at the way you lie to all those people here, who blindly believe anything you say, only because it says: "Juve is not guilty".
How can you all believe this person ?
He gives the link above, where he states that the Federal Court judge (Sandulli) is saying that the season Juve were relagated for, was legitimate and there was no illicit activity, when Sandulli (later on) DENIED saying anything like that:
http://archiviostorico.gazzetta.it/2006/ottobre/18/Sandulli_Moggi_dice_falso__ga_10_061018031.shtml
Just to name one quote from there:
"I never said or wrote that the league in 2004-2005 was a regular season."
Sandulli CLEARLY says that what was written is a lie, but what is more amazing, is that gsol ALREADY KNOWS THIS, because I remember him talking back in 2008 I think, with other person on other forum, who already told Gsol the same thing I did just now, and YET HERE HE IS spreading AGAIN the same lie (WHICH HE KNOWS IS A LIE).
I seriously can't understand, how can you trust in anything he says, but it's your choice.
Because of people like Gsol, there are so many confused people after the verdict is done, because they are being told either lies, or not the whole truth, and then they think it is conspiracy or something alike. If they had the full picture of it (not just some glance), there wouldn't be as many people saying things like: "They want to silence Moggi" etc.
But as I've said. It is your choice, you can even trust Satan, the master of a lie, if that will make you happy.
What it has to do with anything I've said ?
It's not important why he said it, or if he was "covering his ass".
If this is the level of inteligence of people who are writing in this thread, I'm not suprised how you all believe gsol.
The important thing is that Sandulli didn't say what Gsol stated.
Gsol LIED. Do you understand that ? He wrote something, that he already knows is not true, just because it fits his "conspiracy" theory.
Does it look like a person that you can believe in ?
I wouldn't trust his word to guard my dog, let alone believe on something as important as fate of my club.
But then again you can believe what you want as I've already said.
EOT for me.
Actually I'm bored of this old-outdated accusations. We've been through this before. So I'll make this as brief as I can.
- The link that gsol quoted is from Corriere (date "28 luglio 2006"), but Sandulli himself confirmed this very same view in some other circumstances like in an interview in “Il Giornale” on the 27th of July 2006 where he was asked what the reasoning was behind the sentence he approved. His response was “there was no illicit activity; the 2004-2005 season was not fixed. The only doubt we had was Lecce-Parma (didn’t concern Juventus or Moggi) which we looked at again and again (with no video…whatever). In any case the season was legitimate.”
Is this sounds like a fabrication to you?
Your cute Gazzetta's link, I'm afraid, can't help your case either for at least 3 reasons:
1. The article mentioned a peculiar thing called "illecito strutturato". In case you haven't heard about this before, the “Illecito/ Articolo Strutturato” is literally structured article which allows a court to combine less serious offences and sentence based on a higher level infraction. They created it after the alleged offence, in the midsts of the on-going trial, and controvertially erased it later after the trial finished. In other words, the rules was changed during the trial and then changed back after. That means that Juve were wrongfully sentenced because they could only be sentenced in accordance with the rules at the time of the infraction. Regardless, the fact that they had to create the grounds to relegate them alone proves that those grounds didn’t even exist when the initial violations took place. In any case they created it for the first time in the history of Italian football, probably one of it's kind in the world.
2. How do you know that the second testimonial is the "honest" one, unlike the "previous lies"? Oh right, because it published on Gazzetta?
3. It's funny how you attacked someone based on an article published in La Gazzetta, which is part of the scandal. Very impartial, objective choice indeed.
- You talks as if Sandulli's opinion on whether the season is legitimate or not is the ultimate proof of the credibility of gsol's posts, or even better: calciopoli as a farce scandal (farsopoli), when you yourself has miserably failed to address other important fact:
# The declarations of other judges from the same courts who completely shares Sandulli's view.
Corte Federale's Judge Mario Serio stated in an interview in “La Repubblica” on the 27th of July 2006 that
“in spite of a lack of evidence regarding match fixing, Juventus were sentenced to Serie B and stripped of their titles after taking into consideration the collective interests of the parties involved in the investigation.”
In other words, whether Sandulli saying the truth or not is of little significance because even if he did denied it, other judges simply contradicts him on the matter. And yes, they're never denied it later on, in a very "respectable" paper like Gazzetta as well.
# The sentences from the trial documents itself [the
Commissione d’Appello Federale (CAF) and
Corte Federale (CF)] clearly stating that no illicit activities (article 6 violation of
CgS) occured during the season.
There's just too many of them. I have all of the copies. Want some?
Now please, tell me how gsol lied?
Well, at least you bring something
new to the table right..
The other attacks when this thread exploded back then were that gsol is a "conspiracy theorist", "one-sided", "naive", etc. And now, after almost 4 years. More than 400 pages. Someone come up with something creative like this:
"Hey guys.. You know what? Gsol lied. Look, there's this great Gazzetta's article you all need to look at. You're all nothing but a bunch of naive little kids for buying all of his words. Thanks. Bye." Kudos to you for trying
that hard.
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