Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (45 Viewers)

[Red]

But there are many teams who'll need to be compensated and how will FIGC find money to compensate them?
How much did Juve and Fiorentina lose from not playing in CL? How much did Juve lose from TV rights in our serie B season? How much did we lose from sponsorships? Fiorentina missed out on CL for two seasons in a row due to Calciopoli. For Juve, one can argue that we were also gonna play in CL in 2007/08 if we were in serie A in 2006/07. How much did Piacenza lose from not earning Serie A promotion due to Juve playing in serie B and Piacenza ending 4th?
The numbers can go as high as 300-400 million. How will the federation find so much money?

Exactly.

There are heaps of theories being put about that are based on sound law, but in practice none of them stand a chance.

There just isn't enough money to compensate Juve, and the other clubs who suffered, which is why I hope the court goes for the 'everyone is guilty' argument and makes Inter, and other teams who have been implicated, suffer.

 

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[Red]

Unless....


... Can there be an option the compensation money to be paid over the course of the next 10,20,30 years? So lets say a 250m eur paid in the next 10 years, 25m eur every summer.
That might be achievable.

That could certainly be agreed if compensation was agreed out of court.

I don't know anything about the Italian system for paying fines/compensation, though.

 

[Jasp]

This issue could very well force FIGC to say everyone is guilty and punish the teams involved this time around.

 

[JCK]

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Does that mean there are more moderators reading this thread than others or does it mean that the moderation is more strict?

 

[Red]

Only overweight moderators will moderate the thread.

 

[JCK]

Such a shame Alen is no longer a moderator.

 

[Oggy]

That could certainly be agreed if compensation was agreed out of court.

I don't know anything about the Italian system for paying fines/compensation, though.

As I've said before, only if we prove that there was conspiracy against us we could ask for money, which is still highly unlikely, not to say impossible.

 

[Red]

Obviously, it goes without saying, everything would have to be found in Juve's favour before they would be entitled to any sort of damages.

 

[JBF]

Such a shame Alen is no longer a moderator.

That fat huh..

 

[Dostoevsky]

Such a shame Alen is no longer a moderator.

 

[SABSAB]

Only overweight moderators will moderate the thread.

Such a shame Alen is no longer a moderator.

 

[Jasp]

I'm trying to grasp some things. I know I could probably scan through the pages, but I think others will benefit also:

I'd be very happy if anyone could drop a few lines about the following:

1) Where are we on the missing inter calls from 2006. Will anyone likely be punished for obstructing justice and hiding evidence.

2) What happens if the inter/roma/... calls gets acknowledged (they are evidence now) but the nature of the calls are viewed as non incriminating (what the luka dude argues forum)

3) The Facchetti naming Collina or not issue. Has Moggi tampered evidence? Who are in charge of transcripts?

4) Are there any difference between the nature of the calls Moggi had and what we're reading now. How about the number of calls?

More questions will probably come.

 

[classicalmania]

If all guilty -

1) Inter relegated
2) bring down the reputation of Serie A
3) no return of moggi to juventus
4) no scudetti back

If all Innocent -

1) Juventus can ask for compensation(not from inter because it means inter are innocent too)
2) Juventus can take FIGC to court
3) moggi may return to juventus
4) scudetti back


so which one you guys prefer? i would prefer the 2nd one thou.. as it will benefit juventus more. if all guilty, we won't be benefit from the trial imo.

Neither of these. Only INTER are guilty. The Calciopoli was just made up by Moratti and Co.
- Who did the wiretaps (illegal BTW)? Telecom Italia, whose director/largest shareholder was Moratti.

- Who published some skewed wiretaps against Juve (also illegal) and ignored all others ? Gazzetta, owned by the Vice President of Inter.

- Who gave the sentences to punish Juve? Guido Rossi, former Inter's director, also Moratti's friend. He was promoted just to destroy Juve, then resigned and became Telecom Italia's chairman and Inter's finance director!

I don't think Moggi's lawyers would just stop at proving everyone is guilty or innocent. They would give hell to Inter, and would reveal the fact that Moratti was the one who made up the Calciopoli.

Given that, I would only want the following option:

1) Scudetti back
2) Huge compensation from Moratti&Co and Inter and FIGC (I would not mind their best players: Milito, Cambiasso and Maicon for peanuts either)
3) Moratti, Rossi & Co in jail for at least 5 years and never allowed to be back to football
4) Inter to Series B minus 9 points (believe me, once they get there, they will stay there forever, you know them ;-) )
5) Moggi to return to Juve

I know, this is just my wet dream and would never come true, because this is Italia. But let's hope for the best!

 

[Mark]

f*ck I gotta go just as this one was out

Cararro to Bergamo: "Rodomonti is the ref(chosen in the ref draw)...as long as he doesn't make a mistake in favour of Juve..."



2004-05 inter-Juve 2-2




...a similar call was made before a game vs Roma..."in doubt whistle against Juve" was judged irrelevant in 06.

EDIT: quote modification and apparently(not 100% sure) this one was also judged irrelevant. ARE YOU FUCKIN' KIDDING ME?

 

[delrey]

Neither of these. Only INTER are guilty. The Calciopoli was just made up by Moratti and Co.
- Who did the wiretaps (illegal BTW)? Telecom Italia, whose director/largest shareholder was Moratti.

- Who published some skewed wiretaps against Juve (also illegal) and ignored all others ? Gazzetta, owned by the Vice President of Inter.

- Who gave the sentences to punish Juve? Guido Rossi, former Inter's director, also Moratti's friend. He was promoted just to destroy Juve, then resigned and became Telecom Italia's chairman and Inter's finance director!

I don't think Moggi's lawyers would just stop at proving everyone is guilty or innocent. They would give hell to Inter, and would reveal the fact that Moratti was the one who made up the Calciopoli.

Given that, I would only want the following option:

1) Scudetti back
2) Huge compensation from Moratti&Co and Inter and FIGC (I would not mind their best players: Milito, Cambiasso and Maicon for peanuts either)
3) Moratti, Rossi & Co in jail for at least 5 years and never allowed to be back to football
4) Inter to Series B minus 9 points (believe me, once they get there, they will stay there forever, you know them ;-) )
5) Moggi to return to Juve

I know, this is just my wet dream and would never come true, because this is Italia. But let's hope for the best!

6) And I to pass organic chemistry

 

[classicalmania]

f*ck I gotta go just as this one was out

Cararro to Bergamo: "Rodomonti is the ref(chosen in the ref draw)...as long as he doesn't favour Juve..."



2004-05 inter-Juve 2-2

Had it become "...as long as he doesn't favour INTER..." we would have been sent to series D with -30 points! What a corrupted football system!

 

[Ahmed]

f*ck I gotta go just as this one was out

Cararro to Bergamo: "Rodomonti is the ref(chosen in the ref draw)...as long as he doesn't favour Juve..."



2004-05 inter-Juve 2-2




...a similar call was made before a game vs Roma..."in doubt whistle against Juve" was judged irrelevant in 06.

and there it is...BOOM!

 

[Red]

f*ck I gotta go just as this one was out

Cararro to Bergamo: "Rodomonti is the ref(chosen in the ref draw)...as long as he doesn't favour Juve..."



2004-05 inter-Juve 2-2




...a similar call was made before a game vs Roma..."in doubt whistle against Juve" was judged irrelevant in 06.

This just shows everyone expected the ref's to favour Juve and so these other people had no choice but to do these things.

I say Juve should be relegated and these brave souls who tried to fight Moggi's system deserve a medal.

 

[Zé Tahir]

f*ck I gotta go just as this one was out

Cararro to Bergamo: "Rodomonti is the ref(chosen in the ref draw)...as long as he doesn't favour Juve..."



2004-05 inter-Juve 2-2




...a similar call was made before a game vs Roma..."in doubt whistle against Juve" was judged irrelevant in 06.

Who is Cararro?

 

[Mark]

He was only President of the FIGC.