Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (34 Viewers)

solojuve1897

Mille Grazie Pavel
Sep 17, 2008
391
So why is it that when gsol posts on this forum mbsol doesn't post?
Are you for real... :sergio:

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According to a signature on the swedish forum for Juventus he explains the call.

Facchetti is discussing with Mazzei, the one responsible of the linesmen, before the game between Inter and Juventus. Fachetti wanted to choose the refs well, and insists on certain referees to be chosen.
 

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solojuve1897

Mille Grazie Pavel
Sep 17, 2008
391
Sorry, what are you guys on about?
http://www.vecchiasignora.com/index.php?showtopic=143276

Title: Domani nuova chicca!, Facchetti, Mazzei, e la griglia arbitrale

Post:
copio e incollo dal forum GLDJ, parole dell'assistente di Moggi:

Domani su Repubblica uscirà un intercettazione tra Facchetti e Mazzei nella quale si parla dell'arbitro da inserire in griglia, vi do un anteprima assoluta:
Mazzei:"L'unica cosa è che devono studiare una griglia dove le possibilità sono più alte per LUI..
Facchetti:"Ma se mettono De Santis che ha già fatto la Juve domenica e non può, mettono Rosetti che è di Torino..''

Per la soluzione, aspettiamo domani...

Either its a continuation of the call released earlier between Facchetti and Mazzei or its a new one. The main point is: We are about to get a conversation about "the grids" :xfinger:
 

solojuve1897

Mille Grazie Pavel
Sep 17, 2008
391
Mark posted this earlier taken from other site and was translated form Italian to English by them.

The girds - Le griglie

As for the league matches, the system of arbitration can be defined as descriptions of mixed type, combining moments of discretion that is, to a later stage of the draw, and so is taking place:

- the league is broken down by bands, also called "girds", each composed of a variable number of matches not less than three, which have characteristics similar to the effect that by the same degree of technical difficulty of conducting the arbitration;

-the valuation of matches which include in each band, and then the valuation of matches which have the same particularities of the difficulty of conducting arbitration is made by the discretion designators BERGAMO and PAIRETTO (on the basis of some parameters, however, not in regulation but commonly accepted): so for example in the range of major technical difficulties (the band A) is usually included matches of clubs competing for the top of the list (and as such, shall we say only for this reason, considered to be particularly sensitive) but may also be included other matches to be considered from time to time, particularly difficult (for example: matches between teams fighting for relegation or derby between teams of same town);

- each band or “grid” of matches, so formed for each day of the championship, is also a grid of arbitrators numerically identical (example: if the A band consists of 5 games will be formed a grid of 5 referees to match the fascia ), which is prepared by designators BERGAMO and PAIRETTO;

-the decision of referees which include the individual grids is taken from the designators discretionary assessments, ie designators to determine from time to time as referees, for example, type A in the grid which is considered the most technical difficulty in conducting the arbitration. This evidently on the assumption that it is referees ensuring professionalism adjusted to the level of technical difficulty of the various bands: it should be remembered also as every year is a kind of prepared list of arbitrators, also drafted on the basis of reports that are made observers sent to each lot and where valuations are expressed the work of the referees;

- grids of matches and the arbitrators are formed by the two nominated on Thursday (after preparatory work in two days earlier) and on Friday it is the combination of the single arbitrator for a single match. The draw takes place in the presence not only of designators and components of the secretariat designated […], but also at the presence of a notary (notaries in reality are two, one present when the draw takes place in Rome and the other when the draw takes place at Coverciano) and a journalist (which is never the same, but from time to time be appointed by the sports journalists). In an urn are placed the balls with inside the indication of matches and in another urn with balls inside the names of individual arbitrators, and then proceeding to matching - for separate bands \ grids match\ arbitrators-the extraction of a match and the corresponding removal of an arbitrator. The designator extract from urn the ball of the match while the journalist pulls the ball from other urn, that including referees;

- not all the referees who are part of the grid combined with a range of games can arbitrate indifferently all the games of that band. Indeed, there is also to take account of the mechanism of "foreclosure", that is the objective reasons which do not allow a judge to arbitrate a match: “objective” because it depends on the foreclosure cases that are not evaluated by designators, but they are predetermined by the regulation. The foreclosure may arise from the place of residence of the referees or the location where the referees play work, which precludes to that arbitrator to arbitrate a race game where a team of that province (example: an arbitrator based in Turin will never arbitrate Juventus), or the number of matches to a certain team that an arbitrator has previously arbitration (an arbitrator cannot arbitrate for two consecutive day-match, every referee can not arbitrate a team that has already arbitrated six times previously);

-The mechanism of foreclosure does not at the time of the designators draw grids of arbitrators to be matched to a particular band of league matches, but then when the draw. If in a certain band, there are matches that are closed to one (or more) of the arbitrators to be matched to that band, first there is the extraction from urn of precluded matches (marked with a color different from that of other matches): obviously If you extract from urn of referees just the name of an arbitrator who cannot arbitrate the game, it is extracted another ball, and after extracting the name previously extracted is replaced inside the urn;

-Finally, as regards the assistant referees (ie linesmen) they are chosen by the discretion of two designators BERGAMO and PAIRETTO together with the vice-designator MAZZEI (who exactly is the exclusive assistants), and the observers are chosen by discretion two designated, but also taking into account the proximity of the place of residence with one in which the matches will be played (in the sense that there is a tendency to appoint observers who do not have to make long journeys).

This is taken to close the Prosecutor of Turin, I would say that is correct and that you find your answers.

A special thanks to KAOS, Coordinator of our forum, which has provided material. good.gif

P.s.
As you can see, the referees were drawn and linesmen were chosen by discretion of designators and vice-designator. It was impossible to choose a complacent referee, but it was possible to choose the linesman.
Someone in Milan (Adriano Galliani CEO of Milan AC) is recommended to have complacent linesmen. Talking to the assigned to the arbitrators of Milan AC, Meani, Galliani in a telephone conversation explicitly says: “Push Meani, push ...”
 

solojuve1897

Mille Grazie Pavel
Sep 17, 2008
391
Okey seriously! This needs to be translated in full, please...

http://www.calciomercato.com//index.php?c=&a=174522

Calciopoli, scudetto Inter; Ruperto 'Io chiesi di non assegnarlo'

18:40 del 06 aprile


Il secondo tempo delle intercettazioni di calciopoli, partita infinita del calcio italiano, anima tra gli altri gli esperti di diritto. Tra questi ce n'è uno, Cesare Ruperto, presidente emerito della Corte Costituzionale che, da capo della commissione di Appello federale della Figc sull'argomento, emise la prima durissima sentenza: ora che si è riaperto il dibattito sull'assegnazione da parte dell'allora commissario Guido Rossi dello scudetto 2005-2006 all'Inter, Ruberto dice all'ANSA: «Andatevi a rileggere la mia sentenza...».

Una sentenza che nel dispositivo recita: «Non assegnazione del titolo». Una valutazione da parte della commissione conseguente a un giudizio su una stagione evidentemente considerata falsata (nelle motivazioni la Caf scrisse: «Una atmosfera inquinata, una insana temperie avvolgente il campionato di serie A era venutasi a creare...»). Era il 14 luglio 2006, undici giorni dopo arrivarono le sentenze della corte federale, il giorno successivo l'assegnazione del titolo all'Inter da parte di Guido Rossi, dopo avere ascoltato il parere di una commissione di saggi con a capo Gerhard Aigner.
 

Mark

The Informer
Administrator
Dec 19, 2003
97,662
The head of the Board of Appeals at the FIGC just said that they shouldn't have given the scudetto to inter in the first place but Guido Rossi influenced by a UEFA guy(he talked the other day saying Rossi was the one making the decision) decided to give it the the 3rd placed club.
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
Moderator
Dec 10, 2004
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In the 1st post of this thread I put up some e-mails with the help of Hist so if any people want to see the news on Calciopoli 2(the real one :p) on sites then you just need to grab the e-mails there. You can ask them why they avoid talking about it, have them post them, give your opinion on it...

If you have other e0mails then I can add them later.
Calciopoli 2 has officially begun?
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
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I am only now beginning to inform myself of the recent news regarding calciopoli...but my two questions remain as they were before the revelations, or stirring of the cauldron, namely:

1.Is there any chance that Inter or Milan will be demoted, as we were, and stripped of titles?
2. is there any chance that Moggi and co. will be cleared of wrongdoing??? Which would also exonerate our club?? and get us our stolen titles back?????
 

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