Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (42 Viewers)

Apr 12, 2004
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Forza Moggi.

Until some1 can tell me which games our team full of world class players fixed, it's nothing more than typical Italian corruption. What a coincidence that only the sportive justice could make a case. I wonder y.....
Moggi? World class players? Corruption? Italy?

You can't have all of those in one sentence and ever be right. Juve sucks because Moggi cheated the system and got caught.
 

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JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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Why fuck Moratti if you're cursing Moggi? You should be kissing his feet for saving Juventus from that cheater Moggi.


Oh and Forza Moggi!
Unlike many others I don't see any connection whatsoever between Moratti and Moggi except that they both were at the helm of two clubs in the same league.

Oh and Fuck Moggi and his likes.
 

Bozi

The Bozman
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Oct 18, 2005
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Seems there are only 2 schools of thought here. Moggi was innocent and duck everybody in the world who denies it, or, moggi was a crook and he brought all this on us
Nobody is gonna agree when the opinions are so polarised. I say that I don't think moggi was entirely innocent, I mean we had guys with avatars of him as the godfather long before the scandal broke. We all knew moggi was not the most honest guy, lots of us were not too surprised when the scandal broke. That said I find it unrealistic to think that he was the architect of everything and that inter were completely clean. The problem is proof, we have no way of confirming anything and until we do then this is all simply congecture
 
Sep 14, 2003
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Seems there are only 2 schools of thought here. Moggi was innocent and duck everybody in the world who denies it, or, moggi was a crook and he brought all this on us
Nobody is gonna agree when the opinions are so polarised. I say that I don't think moggi was entirely innocent, I mean we had guys with avatars of him as the godfather long before the scandal broke. We all knew moggi was not the most honest guy, lots of us were not too surprised when the scandal broke. That said I find it unrealistic to think that he was the architect of everything and that inter were completely clean. The problem is proof, we have no way of confirming anything and until we do then this is all simply congecture
+ Rep :tup:
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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Seems there are only 2 schools of thought here. Moggi was innocent and duck everybody in the world who denies it, or, moggi was a crook and he brought all this on us
Nobody is gonna agree when the opinions are so polarised. I say that I don't think moggi was entirely innocent, I mean we had guys with avatars of him as the godfather long before the scandal broke. We all knew moggi was not the most honest guy, lots of us were not too surprised when the scandal broke. That said I find it unrealistic to think that he was the architect of everything and that inter were completely clean. The problem is proof, we have no way of confirming anything and until we do then this is all simply congecture
Does this mean that in the mean time we accuse Moratti for relegating Juve to Serie B? Because this is the most absurd and idiotic claim I've ever heard or seen.
 

Bozi

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Oct 18, 2005
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Absolutely not mate but in this whole sorry mess I seiriously doubt anybody is completely free of guilt. Moggi was the perfect fall guy because he was so dodgy, you reap what you sew in life and moggi certainly planted a few seeds, but that is not to say he was the only one
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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I never claimed he was the only one but if you say he was dodgy, his dodginess affected the club I support negatively. When the picture gets larger than that it becomes totally out of my concern.
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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Bürkε;1775835 said:
Moggi? World class players? Corruption? Italy?

You can't have all of those in one sentence and ever be right. Juve sucks because Moggi cheated the system and got caught.
Wrong !! A team that reached 3 champions league finals in a row ( 4 champions league finals in less than 10 years) can't simply be cheating to win their league. We were a great team that had the best talents in football. We were dominating the league just the same way man united were dominating in their league for the past 20 or so years and you're club (bayern) were dominating in germany !!

3 years after Gianni Agnelli died all this calciopolli shit appeared why didn't all that happened before ?! There was a clear plan to take this club down and it took them atleast 3 years to orginize everything. Am not a fan of all this conspiracy theory thing but in our case it's pretty clear that something really suspecious is happening behind the scenes.

So FUCK moratti and the rest of the FIGC....
 

Bozi

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Oct 18, 2005
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Oh I don't doubt it, like yourself, when the scandal broke I can't say I was too surprised to see moggi in the centre of the implications. Some folk were and still are, indidgnant that he was the man accused as if he was mother therasa, pope John Paul and Jesus all rolled into one. Most of us expected this to come back and bite is on the arse, but it seems the realists are in the minority
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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Oh I don't doubt it, like yourself, when the scandal broke I can't say I was too surprised to see moggi in the centre of the implications. Some folk were and still are, indidgnant that he was the man accused as if he was mother therasa, pope John Paul and Jesus all rolled into one. Most of us expected this to come back and bite is on the arse, but it seems the realists are in the minority
supporting the black and white has turned their thought processes into black and white as well
 

Bozi

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Oct 18, 2005
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Actually no Ahmed, for me I will support juve forever more but I had my eyes open well before the scandal. I spoke, among with many others about how moggi was a shady character, how it may come back on us one day and most folk revelled in this side of him. The same folk now are totally blinkered and blame eveyone but ourselves.
Do I think moggi was innocent? No
Do I think he was solely responsible? No do I think we got shafted? Yes, but let he who is without sin cast the first stone and in this case noone is clean
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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Actually no Ahmed, for me I will support juve forever more but I had my eyes open well before the scandal. I spoke, among with many others about how moggi was a shady character, how it may come back on us one day and most folk revelled in this side of him. The same folk now are totally blinkered and blame eveyone but ourselves.
Do I think moggi was innocent? No
Do I think he was solely responsible? No do I think we got shafted? Yes, but let he who is without sin cast the first stone and in this case noone is clean
I know you don't think like a lot of these people here Boz and the same with me, I always felt something was not right with Moggi...the only directors I ever felt anything for was the Agnellis and Bettega...it's just some people who are living in denial/ignorance regarding Moggi and don't see that our enemies got a chance to bury us because of that motherfucker
 

Mike-e-y

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Jul 18, 2004
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Actually no Ahmed, for me I will support juve forever more but I had my eyes open well before the scandal. I spoke, among with many others about how moggi was a shady character, how it may come back on us one day and most folk revelled in this side of him. The same folk now are totally blinkered and blame eveyone but ourselves.
Do I think moggi was innocent? No
Do I think he was solely responsible? No do I think we got shafted? Yes, but let he who is without sin cast the first stone and in this case noone is clean
:agree:

Well put mate, Moggi was by no means clean, there were certainly things going on behind the scenes that were influencing certain decisions. But we were not the only ones to benefit, obviously milan, fiorentina and lazio were punished with us along with a few smaller teams but I completely refuse to believe that Inter were completely clean, and I always thought there were wire taps implementing Fachetti, It is also not a coincidence that telecom italia - who's owner is/was an inter shareholder, fan and close friend of Moratti's didn't release any dirt on inter...

And fine Moggi was guilty, but my anger at the decisions which were given were because the players and fans were ultimately the ones made to pay for a few mens mistakes. I do not see why the club should be punished for the improper behavior of one man. And where is Moggi - the criminal today? Walking the streets despite commiting 'sporting fraud' - is this not a criminal offence? If the CEO of a bank commits fraud with his investors money will he be allowed to walk the streets while the government fines the everyday users of that bank who had no idea about the undertakings of its chief exec.....

Something really doesn't add up about calciopoli....
 

solojuve1897

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Sep 17, 2008
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Moggi "destroyer of Juventus" must be the most ignorant thing i’ve read here so far. There is plenty of evidence from the documents of the courts (CF and CAF) that proves that the whole thing was a joke. But nothing that proves that Moggi was the "destroyer of Juventus". How do you justify your claims? Or is it just taken out of the blue? Meaning Gazzetta dell'Inter.

Luciano is a LEGEND, that deserves to be quoted:

Before the game:
"Who is this guy that will partner Giorgio Chiellini in defence? Kne...kze... I cannot even bring myself to pronounce his name. He is at best an average player and should be plying his trade in Serie B,"

After the game:
"He clearly lost Juve the game," he told Telecaprisport. "I have no idea what he was thinking, when he replaced Del Piero with Paolo De Ceglie. He was unquestionably afraid of Napoli and that was ultimately a colossal mistake."
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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Moggi "destroyer of Juventus" must be the most ignorant thing i’ve read here so far. There is plenty of evidence from the documents of the courts (CF and CAF) that proves that the whole thing was a joke. But nothing that proves that Moggi was the "destroyer of Juventus". How do you justify your claims? Or is it just taken out of the blue? Meaning Gazzetta dell'Inter.

Luciano i a LEGEND. That deserves to be quoted:

"Who is this guy that will partner Giorgio Chiellini in defence? Kne...kze... I cannot even bring myself to pronounce his name. He is at best an average player and should be plying his trade in Serie B," -Moggi
wow that was a simply amazing observation from Moggi...he's better than Plato, this one
 

Esteban

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Mar 6, 2005
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I never claimed he was the only one but if you say he was dodgy, his dodginess affected the club I support negatively.
I don't know when you started supporting Juve but I'd guess it was in the Moggi era. And making the assumption you probably fell for Juve partly because they were successful (no shame in that) chances are you would have never supported this club if it wasn't for Moggi's work.
 

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