Denco before criticizing anyone here look at what you've contributed.
You never said Juventus fixed matches? What were we "guilty as sin" of then and furthermore why are we arguing?
We were found guilty of manipulating referees and unsportmanlike behaviour as regards to charges ranging from getting players suspended before they play us to other lesser charges
You accuse me of distorting the truth to suit me when all I did was post what I had. Did I forge the trial docs? Did I manipulate the wires? Did I invent the judge declarations and corporate ties between certain individuals?
Nope but you post what is conveinent and say whats not conveinient to be propaganda and implore everyone on here to ignore it as its perpetuated by Gazzetta (happy seven?)
"Influencing referees is not the same as fixing as with fixing you know the outcome.
Influencing, you can still lose even if you ask for favors to be done for your team like Moggi was accused of."
a) you are wrong as they are seen as one and the same legally as far as the Sports Tribunals are concerned
b) Moggi didn't ask for favors in league matches. That' was the whole point of the thread Denco...you missed it.
You know for a fact that Moggi did not ask for favours in the league how? You have been with him with every transaction that he did? You can say there is no evidence of asking for favours thats more credible but never ever say he did not do it as you cannot know that for sure. Only Moggi and the referees in question know that for sure
"You keep equating what Moggi is alleged to have done to teams getting preferential treatment from referees as if it’s the same thing."
No I've shown how other teams have gotten away with worse which adds to my point that it was done on purpose to get rid of him and relegate us.
No you have not shown that other teams have been more favoured you have tried to distort things to suit your arguments. Firstly you say some stat group came up with that Milan are the most favored team ever in serieA and now Milan alongside Roma and Juventus are the most penalised just to favour Inter Milan. Juventus, according to you have not really being favoured, well not more than its normal to be favoured
"Asking for favorable referees is still cheating, it’s not match fixing but it is still cheating. Would that ever register with you?"
Totally agree with you here. However asking for a fair referee is not cheating which is the excuse used to clear Facchetti and Inter when they asked for officials and Milan when they requested Collina. In any case Moggi never asked and obtained referees in league play. Would that ever register with you?
Why would Moggi ask for favourable referees in league matches when according to you he knows who would referee a game in advance? If you know who is going to referee your game and you already have his number why bother bothering league officials. But in Cl he does not have that kind of power so he needs help and asks for it. Why is this so hard for you to comprehend?
Don't bother with the SIM cards because that has been dismantled and you already know it whether you are willing to acknowledge it or not. Moggi had foreign SIM's as do I because they are convenient and legal but he only ever gave one of his to Bergamo. No referee received one from him and they all testified to that prior to the phone tables being traced to computers. You can ignore the arrests if you think it is too convenient but the manipulated tables are hardly something you should pin your hopes on.
Yes you have Sim cards as you also can get creatine anywhere like you alleged elsewhere but the difference being that you as an individual are allowed to have sim cards and use creatine in your private life but as an athlete and in Moggi's case having so many SIM cards does arouse suspicions. Even as an individual if you have so many sim cards its very likely you are doing something dodgy or hiding something at least
Once again you think you know everything. You think you know everyone’s age and what they believe. Why don’t you ask the mods how old they are? Want to ignore what I write, go nuts. Don't try to respond to it though. With that line you just proved that you are arguing for the sole purpose of arguing. You don't even know what you are debating against.
I guess these are the same mods you said were by gay lovers because they banned your ass but now that its convenient for ya you bring them into your arguement
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