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[gsol]

No he said he was an Interista...don't make me go back through pages of his quotes to find it.

Besides I don't give a rats ass about him or who he supports.

Tardelli has reason to be upset. Anyone associated with the old triade was pushed out the door (not renewing contracts or just making life difficult until they left) because the "new" Juve wanted to show everyone that things were changing and appeal more to their rivals...now we find out that Secco is buddies with Moggi (most of us knew this already).

Tardelli and Bettega have to ask themselves why they were so easily disposed of and why Secco is still around.

 

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[Snoop]

So he's a liar?

Is that really better?

no he is fucking with you

 

[Bozi]

No he said he was an Interista...don't make me go back through pages of his quotes to find it.

Besides I don't give a rats ass about him or who he supports.

Tardelli has reason to be upset. Anyone associated with the old triade was pushed out the door (not renewing contracts or just making life difficult until they left) because the "new" Juve wanted to show everyone that things were changing and appeal more to their rivals...now we find out that Secco is buddies with Moggi (most of us knew this already).

Tardelli and Bettega have to ask themselves why they were so easily disposed of and why Secco is still around.

what really gets you is if secco and moggi are such good buddies how come our transfer dealings have been so poor?

if we get VDV then i will see the shadow of moggi at work

 

[Snoop]

he thinks Moggi brought Nocerino, Iaquinta, but the others who failed (Almiron, Thiago) were brought by Blanc under the orders of the evil called Moratti!

 

[Salvatore]

No he said he was an Interista...don't make me go back through pages of his quotes to find it.

No offense, but lighten up a bit. It was sarcastic/a joke, whatever you want to believe.

Continue with the usual arguments which have been going on though.

 

[David01]

so let me get this right, if one of our transfers isn't doing a good enough job it is because of Secco (Tiago, Almiron) but if the player is doing better then we were expecting that is because Moggi is still pulling the ropes(Iaquinta, Nocerino)
oh now I understand how a proffesional football team works

 

[Bjerknes]

Tardelli is right... Secco should be nowhere near this role he currently holds. Hopefully one day we will understand why this no-name, no-position idiot has one of the most important jobs at the club.

 

[gsol]

what really gets you is if secco and moggi are such good buddies how come our transfer dealings have been so poor?

if we get VDV then i will see the shadow of moggi at work

in the end Moggi can make all the suggestions he wants but it's Secco-Blanc-cobolli Gigli and Ranieri who make the call.

 

[Ibrahimovic9]

as long as moggi is advising secco who to get on the transfer market im fine

 

[Alen]

as long as moggi is advising secco who to get on the transfer market im fine

I don't think Moggi was very good regarding "Who to get ?" . The scouts and the coaches are the ones who are experts on this, not Moggi. Moggi's eye for a good footballer was probably as good as yours and mine.
Moggi was the master of "How to get" the one the scouts and the coaches reccomended.

This being said, if Moggi has no influence in getting a player for Juve and he isn't allowed to negotiate the transfer then he's of no use to us and him advising Secco about transfer targets isn't such a big deal.
Right ?

 

[Eaglesnake_1]

I don't think Moggi was very good regarding "Who to get ?" . The scouts and the coaches are the ones who are experts on this, not Moggi. Moggi's eye for a good footballer was probably as good as yours and mine.
Moggi was the master of "How to get" the one the scouts and the coaches reccomended.

i dont think even you believe this

 

[JCK]

I don't think Moggi was very good regarding "Who to get ?" . The scouts and the coaches are the ones who are experts on this, not Moggi. Moggi's eye for a good footballer was probably as good as yours and mine.
Moggi was the master of "How to get" the one the scouts and the coaches reccomended.

This being said, if Moggi has no influence in getting a player for Juve and he isn't allowed to negotiate the transfer then he's of no use to us and him advising Secco about transfer targets isn't such a big deal.
Right ?

Moggi started his football career as a scout though.

 

[Alen]

i dont think even you believe this

Are you suggesting that he was scouting the players and then buying them ?
Could be, but in that case we didn't really need scouts all over the world and our coaches only job was to prepare the tactics for the matches and nothing more.

I believe Moggi was a very good diplomat, with great connections and amazing negotiating skills. But i really doubt he was the one who spotted all those players we bought during the years.

The scouts are the ones who reccomend players, the coach is the one who's asking for players. Moggi and people like him should be the ones who bring the players to the club.

Moggi started his football career as a scout though.

Ahaaa, i forgot about this.
This changes everything so forget about my two previous posts

 

[Bjerknes]

I think Alen is partially right when he says our talented findings should not be credited to Moggi alone. Luciano had other things to deal with instead of flying all over the place looking at several players all season long.

 

[Bozi]

in the end Moggi can make all the suggestions he wants but it's Secco-Blanc-cobolli Gigli and Ranieri who make the call.

dont worry i was only pissing about

 

[gsol]

I don't think Moggi was very good regarding "Who to get ?" . The scouts and the coaches are the ones who are experts on this, not Moggi. Moggi's eye for a good footballer was probably as good as yours and mine.
Moggi was the master of "How to get" the one the scouts and the coaches reccomended.
QUOTE]

Actually Moggi was made Director because of his proven track record. He was a talent scout for years before becoming a Director.

As a director he'd receive videos of hundreds of players from scouts. Those that interested him he would go see in action.

It's how Juve cntines to operate as do most teams.

 

[Mark]

Pasquale Sensibile was close to Moggi and played a big part with the players we have right now. He also suggested many players from South America too but Moggi almost never listened to him. Paco Casal was the one who suggested the Uruguayans to Moggi I think.

I think Bettega liked scouting some players also and he loves Huntelaar.

 

[Fred]

So he's a liar?

Is that really better?

if you ask Turk it is

 

[Ascension]

I don't think Moggi was very good regarding "Who to get ?" . The scouts and the coaches are the ones who are experts on this, not Moggi. Moggi's eye for a good footballer was probably as good as yours and mine.
Moggi was the master of "How to get" the one the scouts and the coaches reccomended.

This being said, if Moggi has no influence in getting a player for Juve and he isn't allowed to negotiate the transfer then he's of no use to us and him advising Secco about transfer targets isn't such a big deal.
Right ?

Well, you are plain wrong.

Moggi is a football brain. He sees football. He has been responsible for Juventus success from day 1. I can't name the players he signed for Juve, but I'm sure the Juventus fans on this board can. All I can say is we are talking big, big players.

 

[Mark]

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History and the right of revenge Written by Geebo on May 3rd, 2007


This is a story about AC Milan’s cries for revenge, and I argue we should be avenging our only ever loss in a Champions league semi final (1965) when we were denied a place in the final by a bribed referee:

I spent the weeks leading up to the Chelski semi finals telling worried Liverpool fans the same story: Relax, we havent lost a European cup semi-final for 42 years, and even the the Ref was bribed! Seven semi finals. Chelski, on the other hand have managed to lose three in four years!

Now we stand in our seventh final, and I have already heard the word “revenge” from the Italian camp once too often for my liking. What exactly is revenge and which team deserves it?

Istanbul in 2005. Kaka ran riot in the first half. AC Milan, started the winners celebrations at half time, Rafa made a decisive tactical change, the crowd stood by their team with the most crucial “walk on” of all time, and the Liverpool eleven took advantage of the situation and won in historic fashion, and in a way that will probably never be repeated.

Revenge for that? I can think of Shevi missing an open goal in extra time and his very poor penalty, I can think of all the players who celebrated at half time. I can think of the nervousness that swept through there ranks, which seemed to repeat itself again at Old Trafford in the first leg of the semi final. I think there revenge could be directed inwards to those who messed up in almighty fashion. But at Liverpool ? No way. They should be men and congratulate us for doing the unthinkable.

The forgotten heroes of 1965

Lawrence, Lawler, Moran, Strong, Yeats, Stevenson, Callaghan, Hunt, St.John, Smith, Thompson.

If football were clean, the above names would be engraved in gold at Anfield. This team SHOULD have been this first British winners of the Champions league ahead of Celtic and then Man Utd. We would have won our fifth big ears in 1984, and we would be going for number seven tonight.

Why werent they?

Only days after the famous FA cup win against Leeds, Liverpool played the first leg against the reigning European champions Inter Milan. Little did they know that the year before Inter Milan had bribed the referee in the Semi finals.
Shankly sent out cup hero Byrne (who broke a collar bone in the final but played on) with the FA cup, to get the crowd going before the start. It worked. Roger Hunt put them 1-0 up inside five minutes.

Milan, however equalized after ten minutes. Ian Callaghan made it 2-1 before half time, he explains:

'Even when Mazzola equalised I was still confident this was to be our night, and after 34 minutes I scored the most treasured goal of my career. What made it all the more rewarding was that it came from a free kick plan we had been practising for some time. It worked like a dream. We got the opportunity to make it work when Peter Thompson was fouled a few yards outside the penalty area. Willie Stevenson and I lined up, then I dummied to shoot, ran over the ball and kept on running as Willie stroked it through to Roger Hunt, who sidefooted it to me - and I hit it into the net.’

Five minutes before half time, Chris Lawler scored a perfectly good goal from the edge of the box only for the referee to disallow it !!!! Callaghan said:

'To this day I have never been able to understand that decision, and even though Ian St John did put us 3-1 ahead in the 75th minute, after Tommy Smith and myself had set up a chance for Roger Hunt, whose shot crashed against the keeper and rebounded for Ian to slot home, that decision did, in the final reckoning, crush our chances of a place in the European Cup Final, which at that time, no British club had reached.’ (1)

The infamous second leg

The referee had been bribed for this game. It was widely recognised that Inter had paid him.Reputable journalists at the time saw the ref drinking champagne with Inter officials after the game. The ref retired (was banned) after that game and never refereed again. He later admitted that Inter bribed him.

There was one good goal by Inter. But the second came when the ball was kicked out of Tommy Lawrence’s hands – a definite foul, play was allowed to continue and they netted. More incredibly, the third was scored DIRECT from an INDIRECT free kick!!!!!!!!

'Three years in a row, Inter made offers to referees in the second legs of European Cup semi-finals to be played at the San Siro and twice it worked, in 1964 and 1965, when they went on to win the final. On the third occasion, in 1966, Gyorgy Vadas, a brave Hungarian official, refused to be bribed. Real Madrid held out and went on to lift the trophy.

In 1964, the sufferers were Borussia Dortmund, who had a key player sent off. In 1965 it was Liverpool, victims of two dreadful decisions by Ortiz de Mendibil, the Spaniard.’ (2) Glanville

Dedicate Number six to the memory of the first great Shankly team of '65

So when people talk of revenge, just remember. Liverpool are owed one very large slice of revenge for what Inter Milan did that night. And I say, we are the ones who should be going out there with a reason to win, and we should dedicated it to the forgotten heroes of 1965. Like the knighthoods to “Sir” Bill and “Sir” Bob, some elements of society may try to belittle (or in this case: Bribe away) our history, but, I for one, will never forget that great team, and the accolades they truly deserved. Raise your voices an extra few decibels in the final for the foregotten heroes of 1965: Lawrence, Lawler, Moran, Strong, Yeats, Stevenson, Callaghan, Hunt, St.John, Smith, Thompson.

Geebo