Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (37 Viewers)

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    snoop your comments piss me off sometimes. Find a shred of proof that Moggi was guilty of anything besides success. You just assume like many. Back it up.
     

    Snoop

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    snoop your comments piss me off sometimes. Find a shred of proof that Moggi was guilty of anything besides success. You just assume like many. Back it up.
    is this a court? no one in this forum has any proof, including you! all the crap you type here and show it like it is a fact has nothing to do with the word called "FACT"! It is called Opinion, like they say, it is like an asshole, everyone has it. :pado:
     

    Pingo

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    is this a court? no one in this forum has any proof, including you! all the crap you type here and show it like it is a fact has nothing to do with the word called "FACT"! It is called Opinion, like they say, it is like an asshole, everyone has it. :pado:
    question...is the trial just an Opinion? Or better said are the documents, that state
    that JUVE is not guilty od MACH FIXING just a Opinion???
     
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    is this a court? no one in this forum has any proof, including you! all the crap you type here and show it like it is a fact has nothing to do with the word called "FACT"! It is called Opinion, like they say, it is like an asshole, everyone has it. :pado:
    if it was a court the trial would be over and yes I've posted facts. Mounds of them and well sourced too.
     

    Azzurri7

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    snoop your comments piss me off sometimes. Find a shred of proof that Moggi was guilty of anything besides success. You just assume like many. Back it up.
    I don't see why you're asking this to snoop. Besides some fans that do think we're guilty no one ATM can give us a proof. Even media/press, lawyers couldn't find one single proof that Moggi was guilty. It's all predictions TBH.

    So no one can really give you a proof and answer your question. Lot of people predict that we're guilty, but to me as a fan, I'll keep waiting for at least one proof to say we're guilty.
     
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    I don't see why you're asking this to snoop. Besides some fans that do think we're guilty no one ATM can give us a proof. Even media/press, lawyers couldn't find one single proof that Moggi was guilty. It's all predictions TBH.

    So no one can really give you a proof and answer your question. Lot of people predict that we're guilty, but to me as a fan, I'll keep waiting for at least one proof to say we're guilty.
    You have the right approach. But like everything else, until there is proof you can't call someone a cheat or dirty or whatever.
     

    Vinman

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    same goes for you! you know the favors we got, but you deny it! I mentioned my disgust way before the Calciopoli thing, at the time when I said the match was fixed, 2 or 3 years ago, everyone told me "shame on you".. Tahir, Juventus is not a holly club, you know how things works there, anyone know a little about football will tell you how corrupt the league is. I support Juve more than ever after it paid it's sins. The new Juve is clean and healthy, if you still want the old sick Juve, then shame on you! :jvefan:

    Moggi and the likes are well knows dirty motherfuckers since their days of the Napoli management, and please stop telling me that they did it all because everyone was doing too. :shifty:
    holly ?:confused2


    "deck the halls with balls of holly, fa la la la la, la la la la :xmas:"
     

    Zé Tahir

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    is that right? so Tahir, answer my question honestly! If it is proven that Moggi bribed refree, arranged matches, and if it is proven that some of our matches were won after getting fixed, will you stop supporting Juve?
    No I wont, because I never thought Moggi cheated. You told me you've always disliked him and knew that he cheated, so for you to still stick around Juve is completely outrageous. Moggi was manager of Juventus for over a decade, so you have no excuse supporting Juve as they've always been under a cheating manager.



    so what your "dirty works" mean then?
    I don't know, I honestly don't know. I do know that all clubs do shady stuff, just like people and businesses do in real life. You've probably thrown your gum on the street haven't you, or taken a piss out in open after a night out, haven't you? :D (minuscule analogy).

    I never blamed anyone other than Giraudo and Moggi as a cheat, prove that! like I said in my previous post, when I meant Juve Cheated back then, that was referred to Moggi! I never ever claimed that the players were part of it!
    Ok so for example...

    A manager of a TV shop, who's well known to be a con-artist and to be involved with shady businessmen, sells you a TV. Later on he's busted, which is to no surprise to you. Now you can claim that you're innocent, and that the TV you bought and the TV's in the store are legit; but do you know what that makes you? You're guilty of accessory to theft and that's a crime.

    Lucky for you, supporting a team that cheats and buys referees is a not a crime.



    That passion is the passion of Juve's love and nothing else, they want to bring the team to the best position that Juve deserve, and not everyone after this "I hate Moratti, I love Moggi" bullshit in their mind. They are having that passion because the team started from the scratch, and they want to prove that their team is as strong as it were before, and that's my exact feeling!
    You're absolutely right about the bolded part. But it seems you've completely forgotten comments made by the players. Almost every player that stuck around in Serie B, has at one point or another said that they have 29 scudetti in their heart; almost everyone has said that they were unjustly punished at one point or another.

    Not to mention the entire build-up to the Derby D'Italia was surrounding this issue.
     

    Snoop

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    holly ?:confused2


    "deck the halls with balls of holly, fa la la la la, la la la la :xmas:"
    :D

    No I wont, because I never thought Moggi cheated. You told me you've always disliked him and knew that he cheated, so for you to still stick around Juve is completely outrageous. Moggi was manager of Juventus for over a decade, so you have no excuse supporting Juve as they've always been under a cheating manager.
    I felt disgusted, and I showed my disgust in the forums right after that. I didn't support the crime from day 1, but that didn't stop me supporting Juve even it's manager cheated, because like I said, it was the manager who was guilty, not a person called "Juventus". Juventus was abused and it's name got dirty by a criminal called Moggi, denying it will not make me a better fan.

    you didn't answer my question Tahir ;)



    I don't know, I honestly don't know. I do know that all clubs do shady stuff, just like people and businesses do in real life. You've probably thrown your gum on the street haven't you, or taken a piss out in open after a night out, haven't you? :D (minuscule analogy).
    No I am innocent :D


    Ok so for example...

    A manager of a TV shop, who's well known to be a con-artist and to be involved with shady businessmen, sells you a TV. Later on he's busted, which is to no surprise to you. Now you can claim that you're innocent, and that the TV you bought and the TV's in the store are legit; but do you know what that makes you? You're guilty of accessory to theft and that's a crime.

    Lucky for you, supporting a team that cheats and buys referees is a not a crime.
    lol that's not the same thing, this is a different topic, I am not supporting that store :D and I wouldn't buy from a place like that even if it was cheap, believe that or not ;)

    Juve is more than a store to me, I am not marcus ellion to change teams every time I discover something wrong in the club :D


    You're absolutely right about the bolded part. But it seems you've completely forgotten comments made by the players. Almost every player that stuck around in Serie B, has at one point or another said that they have 29 scudetti in their heart; almost everyone has said that they were unjustly punished at one point or another.

    Not to mention the entire build-up to the Derby D'Italia was surrounding this issue.
    The reason they are acting so is because they felt Interisti think we succeeded the past years just because of what Moggi did (crimes). They (Juve Players)have the all right to be this hungry, and I support them for that. That comes to my point again, that the players had nothing to do with Calciopoli, and they want to prove that with Moggi or without Moggi, Juve is Juve and it's target is winning as much as titles possible. Inter part is true because of their players' supporters' and managers' reaction to this case, sure one gets heated for this, but we are classier than this, our job is to win titles and not beat Inter or any other specific team ONLY!
     
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    Snoop again I have to point out that you have convinced yourself that Moggi cheated because of favors. What do you make of all the occasions ehere referee decisions cost us points?

    And don't say there weren't any or that there were way more favours for us than against us because I can assure you it's balanced and if I have to again list the many examples I'll do it.

    So the question is; What do you make of the occasions that Juve were docked points by Moggi's "referees"?
     

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