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[Juventino_NJ]

Moggi calls on Moratti wiretaps

Friday 2 April, 2010

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Wiretaps of Inter President Massimo Moratti talking to refereeing designators form an integral part of Luciano Moggi’s trial.

Moggi, the former director general of Juventus and by many considered the great power behind Calciopoli, is at the centre of a civil trial into the same incidents.


“Quite simply either everyone is innocent or everyone is guilty. In my view, everyone is innocent,” declared Moggi after today’s dramatic court session.


“Maybe not everybody expected these developments. I invite everyone to think carefully and reflect on the matter.”


Moggi will try to prove that he was not pulling the strings of Italian football by communicating with the refereeing designators in order to favour Juventus.


He has always maintained he was only one of many who regularly spoke to the officials and acted only to 'protect’ Juve.


This is why it was such a coup to release the transcripts of a wiretapped conversation between Inter President Moratti and designator Paolo Bergamo.


“Moggi was accused of violating Article 1, which represents fair play,” explained lawyer Prioreschi.


“I ask the FIGC and the Naples Tribunal why this same action was not taken against Moratti when the designator asks him if he likes the referee assigned to his match, after having asked the same of Giacinto Facchetti?


“On Tuesday we will ask for transcripts of all the wiretapped calls that were inexplicably ignored during the preliminary investigation. Essentially Calciopoli took different approaches to different people for the same incidents.


“In the phone calls there is talk of meetings and dinners between Moratti, Facchetti and Bergamo. So why was that not even transcribed when the police had a stakeout to film the dinner between Diego Della Valle and Bergamo?”


The incriminating phrase in the wiretap is from designator Bergamo ahead of a Coppa Italia tie with Bologna, which ended 3-1 to Inter on January 13 2005.


“Seeing as there is no draw for the referees, but a direct designation, I have sent you Gabriele. I made sure he will be accompanied by two very good assistants.”


Bergamo has hit back at the accusations of wrongdoing, at the same time suggesting Moggi is right to claim everyone is innocent in the Calciopoli scandal.


“I’m not remotely surprised at these conversations, I always said that I spoke to everyone,” said the former refereeing designator.


“I’ve been told there is another conversation in which we both compliment Bertini after his performance in a game between Inter and Sampdoria.


“Didn’t the Calciopoli trial insist Bertini was part of the pro-Juve 'cupola’? It seems this so-called pro-Juve organisation wasn’t very solid.”

 

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[only-juve]

These “revelations” give me no hope. They do nothing but infuriate me. All this was known years ago. We already knew (courtesy of the verdicts) that no match fixing existed, that the ref selections were legit, and that Moggi was not a mastermind of calcio manipulation. All this was known before this Naples trial, but no1, Juventus management included, bothered to pursue it because they didn’t have the stomach for it.

The climate for the truth did not exist back then, and it certainly does not exist now. Proof is in the lack of media attention compared to 2006. During that summer, nothing but slander and lies were printed about Juventus. Now we have real courts (not sporting courts with club directors at the helm) making key findings, and the Italian media has hardly made a peep.

Nothing has changed since 2006, and I am certain the FIGC cannot stomach more bad press for a league that is already visibly dwindling away. They will not shoot themselves in the foot again.

Forget about justice people. The law is a whole different ball game in Italy as proven by the numerous injustices, inconsistencies, and flat out criminal conduct that has scarred every aspect of calciopoli.

Yeah pretty much agree on everything you said.

Nothing have changed from 2006 up until now, the only way things will change is when moratti dies one day. Hope that will be soon though :xfinger:

 

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L'ex patron del Bologna, Giuseppe Gazzoni Frascara, difende il presidente dell'Inter: «Non credo che Moratti e Bergamo tramassero per ottenere risultati. In queste telefonate mi sembra non ci sia nulla. Io so che il nostro presidente di allora Cipollini parlava con Pairetto e Bergamo, ma non chiedeva fatti come sembra facesse Moggi. Era normale parlare con il designatore il lunedì mattina, non mi risulta ci sia una sanzione che impedisca ai presidenti di parlare con il designatore. Tra telefonare e commentare e telefonare e chiedere dei favori per garantirsi dei risultati ce ne passa - dice Gazzoni all'agenzia radiofonica Grt - ma questo lo decideranno i giudici. Ricordo vagamente quel Bologna-Inter di cui si parla in queste intercettazioni, ma non ci fu partita. Io penso che la linea difensiva del legali di Moggi sia questa: "Io non ho fatto niente di male, il mio modo di parlare era identico a quello di tutti quanti, il mio linguaggio è stato male interpretato". La verità è che Luciano Moggi aveva le mani sul calcio, aveva un potere assoluto».

Fonte: Il Messaggero.

Cazzo interista, defends Moratti and Merda and says that only Moggi and Juve are guilty for the farsopoli

 

[Hust]

I bet what happens is that Juve, Inter and Milan are all found guilty and the titles go to Roma or whoever was in fourth. They won't be able to pinpoint anything and to make it all square we all get screwed (us again).

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

L'ex patron del Bologna, Giuseppe Gazzoni Frascara, difende il presidente dell'Inter: «Non credo che Moratti e Bergamo tramassero per ottenere risultati. In queste telefonate mi sembra non ci sia nulla. Io so che il nostro presidente di allora Cipollini parlava con Pairetto e Bergamo, ma non chiedeva fatti come sembra facesse Moggi. Era normale parlare con il designatore il lunedì mattina, non mi risulta ci sia una sanzione che impedisca ai presidenti di parlare con il designatore. Tra telefonare e commentare e telefonare e chiedere dei favori per garantirsi dei risultati ce ne passa - dice Gazzoni all'agenzia radiofonica Grt - ma questo lo decideranno i giudici. Ricordo vagamente quel Bologna-Inter di cui si parla in queste intercettazioni, ma non ci fu partita. Io penso che la linea difensiva del legali di Moggi sia questa: "Io non ho fatto niente di male, il mio modo di parlare era identico a quello di tutti quanti, il mio linguaggio è stato male interpretato". La verità è che Luciano Moggi aveva le mani sul calcio, aveva un potere assoluto».

Fonte: Il Messaggero.

Cazzo interista, defends Moratti and Merda and says that only Moggi and Juve are guilty for the farsopoli

Post in English please, or provide whole translations in English.

 

[Hust]

:ban:

 

[JuveJay]

It is an ex Bologna owner licking Moratti's ass, saying that Moratti hasn't said anything untoward and he was not like Moggi because Moggi was the big bad ruler of calcio who controlled it with absolute power.

I don't know about you, but I'm convinced. It's that sort of mentality without justification that left us with Calciopoli. Why was Moggi the evil villain. Because he was.

 

[Red]

:ban:

Does 'Special Moderation' mean the mods will be more or less strict?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

It's neither.

We allow more from some, less of others.

 

[Hust]

The title to this thread is very misleading then, Red.

 

[swag]

Man, why did it take 4 years for this? Inter's mani puliti presumption was always so clearly bogus.

 

[Mark]

Look at this face.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Those are some ugly people.

 

[Stevie]

 

[Kosta]

Oh, boy

 

[gsol]

Guys I really sympathize with a lot of you because so few here understand Italian but it is going to be really difficult for me to find time to translate what I think will be hundreds of articles in the coming months. I simply have too much going on at the moment and the information seems to be quite substantial (again).

I wrote an email to goal.com and my suggestion is that all those interested do the same to all English based football sites. Four years ago they couldn’t write enough about it and all of a sudden Balotelli’s apology takes precedence over the scandal of the century in Italian football. The next post will be a copy of what I wrote to goal. If you guys want daily translations, go to the “contact us” sections of all those sites and send a similar message. They get paid to keep us informed, tell them to get off their vaginas earn their fucking paycheques for a change.

 

[gsol]

I have a question that I would like to pose to the editors of goal.com.

Why is it that in the summer of 2006 the website participated so openly in the lynching of Juventus and her directors for yet to be proven charges while the website has given slim to no page space thus far regarding the CONFIRMATION of what so many Juventini have been arguing for years?

Countless articles have been published in the last few days regarding Inter's role in the wiretap scandal and I have seen almost no mention of it in this site which many English speakers use as a point of reference.

Allow me to explain the significance of what has been discovered in civil court (not a sports tribunal) this week.

The very verdict that relegated Juventus and suspended it's board in 2006 stated clearly that no illicit conversations existed within the wire taps and that no match fixing, attempted match fixing, or even remote requests for favors were found among the many conversations. It was however argued that Moggi's exclusive relationship with the referee designator Bergamo could have created an advantageous position. The discovery that Moratti and Facchetti of Inter (who wore Juve's championship crest with pride in 2006) Milan's Galliani, Cagliari's Cellino among others were also calling the same referee designator and that the conversations were of a far more dubious nature does two things:

1. It proves that Moggi's "exclusivity" never existed and that the punishments now more than ever were unwarranted
2. It proves that the "evidence" that was presented against Juventus in 2006 was at the very least selective (consider that 171,000 wires were hidden and only unearthed now)

I have sat idly by after goal.com followed up on its Anti-Juve campaign in 2006 by doing little to report all the NOT GUILTY verdicts that Moggi received in actual courts these last few years regarding everything from Accounting Fraud, to GEA Player Agency control, to International SIM Card communication and even actual match fixing but today I feel as a fan of the sport that I should say something.

If you as a source of information want to establish or maintain any credibility whatsoever among the Serie A faithful I suggest you start pouring through the more reputable newspapers and channels of Italy (La Repubblica, La Stampa, RAI Sport, etc.) and begin informing the non Italian speaking fans of what they are entitled to know.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Probably a good idea so I don't have to warn people for posting in an inefficient language.

 

[Stevie]

I have a question that I would like to pose to the editors of goal.com....

 

[swag]

I have a question that I would like to pose to the editors of goal.com.

You mean monkeys with keyboards can read e-mail?