Calcio stops for Pope John Paul (1 Viewer)

[Erkka]

++ [ originally posted by isha00 ] ++

That is not the point. The decision was made to respect his suffering, his agony.
Italy is living this situation in a very profound way, the Pope is not regarded only as the successor of Saint Peter here, the bond people have with him is something more deeply than that. That's because of his attention to young people, the way he showed that ill people have still lots to give, his strenght in the last years. He brought something fresh, something new to the church. You have to see the decision under this light.

To make an example I can tell you about me. I'm catholic, but I don't go to church and I'm oftenly critic reagarding the church, but the Pope is for me something special anyway, he teaches people great things with his example (never to give up, for example), even to the non-catholic ones.

Well I do respect him as a person and I'm aware of his position in Italy. He had his influence in politics too, Poland got rid of Soviet Union faster just because of him. He may rest in peace.

...But I still see this decision as hypocritical one. It's just the cultural difference between catholics and lutherans, I didn't reckon that it really is THAT big until now.

 

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[nedved34]

++ [ originally posted by Erkka ] ++


Well I do respect him as a person and I'm aware of his position in Italy. He had his influence in politics too, Poland got rid of Soviet Union faster just because of him. He may rest in peace.

...But I still see this decision as hypocritical one. It's just the cultural difference between catholics and lutherans, I didn't reckon that it really is THAT big until now.

This is harsh man.Papa was a living saint, you can't act like nothing happened.
I am sure the whole Italy is sad because of his death,belivers and non belivers.
I am sure he was the man of the past century,all he did was for make peace and praying all day.I think he deserved this respect and more.
it's ridiculus to compare this situation with 9/11

 

[Erkka]

++ [ originally posted by snoop ] ++

I am sure he was the man of the past century,all he did was for make peace and praying all day.I think he deserved this respect and more.
it's ridiculus to compare this situation with 9/11

I disagree. He wasn't the man of the past century. But yes, he still deserves all the respect.

And please, of course it's ridicilous to compare ONE MAN's death to the death of thousands of people...

 

[Len]

RIP John Paul II.....

 

[Desmond]

No disrespect intended,but I would tend to agree with Erkka here.

++ [ originally posted by Erkka ] ++


I disagree. He wasn't the man of the past century. But yes, he still deserves all the respect.

And please, of course it's ridicilous to compare ONE MAN's death to the death of thousands of people...

For me,to suspend the matches because of the Pope's suffering when all they did for the tsunami victims was observe a minute of silence is sort of disrespect in itself.Don't get me wrong,I have absolutely nothing against Catholism and I acknowledge the position he holds in Italy,but in all aspects save religion I think events like 9/11 and the tsunami bear larger significance amongst the citizens of the world.

 

[nedved34]

++ [ originally posted by Desmond ] ++
No disrespect intended,but I would tend to agree with Erkka here.


For me,to suspend the matches because of the Pope's suffering when all they did for the tsunami victims was observe a minute of silence is sort of disrespect in itself.Don't get me wrong,I have absolutely nothing against Catholism and I acknowledge the position he holds in Italy,but in all aspects save religion I think events like 9/11 and the tsunami bear larger significance amongst the citizens of the world.

it's not the number,but it's the greatness of Pope that he is recieving this respect. it's hard to see another man like him coming to earthin hundreds years
and think about it,how can the player play when Papa is dying,or forget the players,how can italian people watch a game and celebrate the goals when papa is dying?:frown:

 

[Bjerknes]

Seriously, are people's lives that dull and boring that they can't live without Calcio for one weekend?

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
Seriously, are people's lives that dull and boring that they can't live without Calcio for one weekend?

indeed. when large part of those complaining do not even get to watch the games on tv.

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
Seriously, are people's lives that dull and boring that they can't live without Calcio for one weekend?

I wonder what they do during the summer break....







NO I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW!!!!

 

[isha00]

++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


I wonder what they do during the summer break....







NO I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW!!!!

:LOL:

 

[isha00]

I think they made a mistake by not suspending the matches on that occasion (9/11, because the tsunami tragedy happened during the winter break), I'm glad they didn't repeat the same mistake.

Anyway the death of those persons is a different thing from the depart of the Pope. John Paul II was not some unknow victim, he was someone people knew.
They had listened to his speeches, laughed at his jokes, many had seen him in person, they were there when he was elected (he said "I don't know if I'm able to communicate in your, our, Italian language, but if I'll make mistakes you will be there to correct me" something absolutely new for a Pope to let himslef be corrected), they had seen him suffering, they cared about him. And when you lose someone you love it's different. With this I'm not saying that those person didn't deserve respect, I'm saying that Italians felt Karol almost as a part of their (our) everyday life.


EDIT: I don't know if I remember well, but I think I remember matches actually were suspended for 9/11, didn't they? Juve was supposed to play against Porto, or was it the week after?

 

[tassard]

RIP

 

[isha00]

I forgot to add:

Some of u say you are aware of his position here. I think maybe you aren't aware of the current situation.
I tell you, the atmosphere here in Italy is surreal, it's no wonder they suspended the matches.

 

[nedved34]

++ [ originally posted by isha00 ] ++
I think they made a mistake by not suspending the matches on that occasion (9/11, because the tsunami tragedy happened during the winter break), I'm glad they didn't repeat the same mistake.

Anyway the death of those persons is a different thing from the depart of the Pope. John Paul II was not some unknow victim, he was someone people knew.
They had listened to his speeches, laughed at his jokes, many had seen him in person, they were there when he was elected (he said "I don't know if I'm able to communicate in your, our, Italian language, but if I'll make mistakes you will be there to correct me" something absolutely new for a Pope to let himslef be corrected), they had seen him suffering, they cared about him. And when you lose someone you love it's different. With this I'm not saying that those person didn't deserve respect, I'm saying that Italians felt Karol almost as a part of their (our) everyday life.

Well said isha00

 

[Erkka]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
Seriously, are people's lives that dull and boring that they can't live without Calcio for one weekend?

++ [ originally posted by Fliakis ] ++

indeed. when large part of those complaining do not even get to watch the games on tv.

Well, I can only speak for myself, but atleast I wasn't complaining about the postponements to be exact. I was complaining about how they reacted with 9/11 and the tsunami.


Elisa, fair enough, I'm not discussing this matter any further, I believe you. (Allthough they didn't postpone the games after 9/11 )

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Erkka ] ++




Well, I can only speak for myself, but atleast I wasn't complaining about the postponements to be exact. I was complaining about how they reacted with 9/11 and the tsunami.

Well you do have a point there. 9/11 certainly touched home for me.