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Jun 6, 2015
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Id be very happy with this, probably a bit too much to ask for

Chiesa - Vlahovic - Kulusevski
Pogba - Locatelli - Arthur
Gaya - De Ligt - Demiral - Cuadrado
Donnarumma

Correia - Morata - Orsolini
Rabiot - Fagioli - McKennie
Pellegrini - Chiellini - Dragusin - Danilo
Perin​
My mind is in perfect sync with Allegri's so I can give you a few insights into the mind of the master. He won't like Arthur as a mezzala because Arthur lacks the right physical characteristics to play there (look at his use of Pjanic for example). He also won't rely that heavily on unproven youngsters. I expect us to add some experience and leadership into the team.
 

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rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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OUT: 131m
Buffon free
Sczcesny 20m
Desciglio 3m
Romero 18m
Rugani 10m
Fabrotta 5m
Bernardeschi 15m
Bentancur 35m
Ramsey 5m
Mandragora 15m
Pjaca 5m


IN: 155m
Donnarumma free
Locatelli 35m
Gosens 35m
Pogba 60m
Isco 15m
Perin return from loan
Morata 10m loan extension
Fagioli, Felix Correa and Dragusin promotion to first team.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,702
GK: Donnarumma (free), Pinsolgio, Buffon
LB: Gosens, Frabotta*
CB: MDL, Skrinar, Bonucci, Chiellini
RB: Cuads, Danilo
CM: Locatelli, SMS, Pogba, Fagioli, McKenniie
AT: Kulu, Chiesa, Dybala
ST: Morata, bakup striker?


Out: Ronaldo, Demiral**(to fund Skrinar), Sandro** (to fund Gosens), Ramsey, Romero, Pjaca, Bentancur, Bernie, Woj, Rugani, Mandragora, MDS


**Happy to keep both if we can afford to have 5 CBs and Sandro as backup.

Ronaldo used to exchange Pogba, gonna have to pony up money for Locatelli & SMS. Going to need another striker
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,317
So based on latest rumors of Ronaldo staying (Georgina)
Donnarumma isnt certain because I can see a problem getting rid of Woj.
LB - Tough to say but for now I dont see any rumor for A.Sandro leaving.
CB - MDL is definitely there while his partner will probably be one of those we already have
RB - No links yet but I guess one of Danilo/Cuadrado
CM - If we play with 2 CMs - Locatelli will definitely be here probably with one of Rabiot/Bentancur. If we play with 3 CMs - I can see RDP or someone of his caliber coming him (since Ronaldo is staying Pogba is not possible while I doubt we have money for SMS)
Forwards - 2cms means 4 in attack - Ronaldo Dybala Chiesa - Morata (Kulu on the bench until he shows he can be a starter on the expense of one of the others). 3 cms means 3 in attack Ronaldo Dybala Chiesa probably (I know Allegri is very open to a Ronaldo exit but there is no way he`d bench him), might see Morata instead of Dybala at times.

Rumors of Pjanic - Maybe if we dont get RDP. I personally against it but if Allegri wants him we will get him.

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GK: Donnarumma (free), Pinsolgio, Buffon
LB: Gosens, Frabotta*
CB: MDL, Skrinar, Bonucci, Chiellini
RB: Cuads, Danilo
CM: Locatelli, SMS, Pogba, Fagioli, McKenniie
AT: Kulu, Chiesa, Dybala
ST: Morata, bakup striker?


Out: Ronaldo, Demiral**(to fund Skrinar), Sandro** (to fund Gosens), Ramsey, Romero, Pjaca, Bentancur, Bernie, Woj, Rugani, Mandragora, MDS


**Happy to keep both if we can afford to have 5 CBs and Sandro as backup.

Ronaldo used to exchange Pogba, gonna have to pony up money for Locatelli & SMS. Going to need another striker
Yeah Im pretty sure we wont get or even look at Skriniar.

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OUT: 131m
Buffon free
Sczcesny 20m
Desciglio 3m
Romero 18m
Rugani 10m
Fabrotta 5m
Bernardeschi 15m
Bentancur 35m
Ramsey 5m
Mandragora 15m
Pjaca 5m


IN: 155m
Donnarumma free
Locatelli 35m
Gosens 35m
Pogba 60m
Isco 15m
Perin return from loan
Morata 10m loan extension
Fagioli, Felix Correa and Dragusin promotion to first team.
Bernardeschi will not be sold under Allegri - He loves him.
Pjaca - Its not that simple as should we be able to do it we would already.

As for Bentancur - IF the clause still exists - 50% goes to Boca IIRC.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
5,614
Donnarumma
Danilo-Bonucci-De Ligt-Sandro
Bentancur-Locatelli
Chiesa-Dybala-Ronaldo
Icardi

Perin
Cuadrado-Demiral-Chiellini-Emerson
McKennie-Arthur-Rabiot
Bernardeschi-Morata-Kulusevski
I'd say this is the most realistic lineup collecting information/rumors so far. Not the best certainly but we easily win the league, got to CL 1/4 finals and see from there.

OUT: Buffon, Woj, MDS, Rugani, Costa, Ramsey
IN: Donnarumma, Locatelli, Emerson, Icardi

I'd prefer someone like Belotti instead of Icardi because if you get Icardi you commit yourself to him as your #9 for the foreseeable future. With Belotti you get a decent backup to rotate with Morata, trust CR and Dybala to score most of the goals and you keep yourself open and flexible to Haaland, Vlahović etc next summer.
 
Jun 6, 2015
11,391
Donnarumma
Danilo-Bonucci-De Ligt-Sandro
Bentancur-Locatelli
Chiesa-Dybala-Ronaldo
Icardi

Perin
Cuadrado-Demiral-Chiellini-Emerson
McKennie-Arthur-Rabiot
Bernardeschi-Morata-Kulusevski
I'd say this is the most realistic lineup collecting information/rumors so far. Not the best certainly but we easily win the league, got to CL 1/4 finals and see from there.

OUT: Buffon, Woj, MDS, Rugani, Costa, Ramsey
IN: Donnarumma, Locatelli, Emerson, Icardi

I'd prefer someone like Belotti instead of Icardi because if you get Icardi you commit yourself to him as your #9 for the foreseeable future. With Belotti you get a decent backup to rotate with Morata, trust CR and Dybala to score most of the goals and you keep yourself open and flexible to Haaland, Vlahović etc next summer.
Do you really think Allegri would play Ronaldo on the left in a 4-2-3-1 formation? I don't see it.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
5,614
Do you really think Allegri would play Ronaldo on the left in a 4-2-3-1 formation? I don't see it.
He tried in the beginning of his last season, but the midfield could not handle it then. With fresher legs in midfield maybe he tries again.

Thing is if Dybala is renewing and Ronaldo cannot find anyone to pay him we have both and are stuck with the same problem as before. 4231 give you the best chance to fit them both in.

You can try 433 with Dybala as CF but Allegri is on the record he does not want Dybala as CF (Idk if he changed his mind) and you can try CR up front in 4231 but I don't think he would accept that.

Also, with De Ligt and Demiral potentially emerging you can maybe play a more offensive style and higher defensive line because in terms of quickness they're light years ahead of the Bonucci-Chiellini tandem.
 
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He tried in the beginning of his last season, but the midfield could not handle it then. With fresher legs in midfield maybe he tries again.

Thing is if Dybala is renewing and Ronaldo cannot find anyone to pay him we have both and are stuck with the same problem as before. 4231 give you the best chance to fit them both in.

You can try 433 with Dybala as CF but Allegri is on the record he does not want Dybala as CF (Idk if he changed his mind) and you can try CR up front in 4231 but I don't think he would accept that.

Also, with De Ligt and Demiral potentially emerging you can maybe play a more offensive style and higher defensive line because in terms of quickness they're light years ahead of the Bonucci-Chiellini tandem.
Okay, for some reason I don't remember that. I still find it hard to imagine Allegri playing him there on regular basis. Last time out he wasn't even too keen on playing Ronaldo as a winger in a pure 4-3-3 and instead played that hybrid 4-3-3/4-4-2 formation and had Matuidi doing the work of a LM defensively.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
5,614
Okay, for some reason I don't remember that. I still find it hard to imagine Allegri playing him there on regular basis. Last time out he wasn't even too keen on playing Ronaldo as a winger in a pure 4-3-3 and instead played that hybrid 4-3-3/4-4-2 formation and had Matuidi doing the work of a LM defensively.
I'm not saying it's smart, I'd like it or anything. Just that if situation stays as it is right now - Dybala renews and Ronaldo doesn't find a team that will pay him you will have to fit them both in again.

Because Dybala renewing at 10m net or more is not being benched or pushed wide again, Chiesa must play, Ronaldo must play etc etc.
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,004
Donnarumma
Danilo-Bonucci-De Ligt-Sandro
Bentancur-Locatelli
Chiesa-Dybala-Ronaldo
Icardi

Perin
Cuadrado-Demiral-Chiellini-Emerson
McKennie-Arthur-Rabiot
Bernardeschi-Morata-Kulusevski
I'd say this is the most realistic lineup collecting information/rumors so far. Not the best certainly but we easily win the league, got to CL 1/4 finals and see from there.

OUT: Buffon, Woj, MDS, Rugani, Costa, Ramsey
IN: Donnarumma, Locatelli, Emerson, Icardi

I'd prefer someone like Belotti instead of Icardi because if you get Icardi you commit yourself to him as your #9 for the foreseeable future. With Belotti you get a decent backup to rotate with Morata, trust CR and Dybala to score most of the goals and you keep yourself open and flexible to Haaland, Vlahović etc next summer.
Bentancur to start in a 2-man midfield? Cristiano staying, playing on the left and then us getting raped on the left side? Allegri won't do that...
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,831
Donnarumma
Danilo-Bonucci-De Ligt-Sandro
Bentancur-Locatelli
Chiesa-Dybala-Ronaldo
Icardi

Perin
Cuadrado-Demiral-Chiellini-Emerson
McKennie-Arthur-Rabiot
Bernardeschi-Morata-Kulusevski
I'd say this is the most realistic lineup collecting information/rumors so far. Not the best certainly but we easily win the league, got to CL 1/4 finals and see from there.

OUT: Buffon, Woj, MDS, Rugani, Costa, Ramsey
IN: Donnarumma, Locatelli, Emerson, Icardi

I'd prefer someone like Belotti instead of Icardi because if you get Icardi you commit yourself to him as your #9 for the foreseeable future. With Belotti you get a decent backup to rotate with Morata, trust CR and Dybala to score most of the goals and you keep yourself open and flexible to Haaland, Vlahović etc next summer.
This team will get buried by another Porto/Ajax/Lyon
 

rakib567

Senior Member
Apr 27, 2013
10,087
So based on latest rumors of Ronaldo staying (Georgina)
Donnarumma isnt certain because I can see a problem getting rid of Woj.
LB - Tough to say but for now I dont see any rumor for A.Sandro leaving.
CB - MDL is definitely there while his partner will probably be one of those we already have
RB - No links yet but I guess one of Danilo/Cuadrado
CM - If we play with 2 CMs - Locatelli will definitely be here probably with one of Rabiot/Bentancur. If we play with 3 CMs - I can see RDP or someone of his caliber coming him (since Ronaldo is staying Pogba is not possible while I doubt we have money for SMS)
Forwards - 2cms means 4 in attack - Ronaldo Dybala Chiesa - Morata (Kulu on the bench until he shows he can be a starter on the expense of one of the others). 3 cms means 3 in attack Ronaldo Dybala Chiesa probably (I know Allegri is very open to a Ronaldo exit but there is no way he`d bench him), might see Morata instead of Dybala at times.

Rumors of Pjanic - Maybe if we dont get RDP. I personally against it but if Allegri wants him we will get him.

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Yeah Im pretty sure we wont get or even look at Skriniar.

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Bernardeschi will not be sold under Allegri - He loves him.
Pjaca - Its not that simple as should we be able to do it we would already.

As for Bentancur - IF the clause still exists - 50% goes to Boca IIRC.

On which earth do you think allegri will love Bernardeschi? 5 goals in 3 years, he needs to go. He's recently said that he keeps getting played out of position at juve. If he was a good player he would play in any position and still excel.

i think we should have bought the clause from Boca but not sure
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,317
On which earth do you think allegri will love Bernardeschi? 5 goals in 3 years, he needs to go. He's recently said that he keeps getting played out of position at juve. If he was a good player he would play in any position and still excel.

i think we should have bought the clause from Boca but not sure
Allegri likes him doesnt mean he is great.. He was meh for us but I still think he likes him
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,168
Young Juve:

Donnarumma (22)
Demiral (23) De Ligt (22) Badiashile (20) Renan Lodi (23)
Chiesa (23) Locatelli (23) Gravenberch (19) Aouar (23)
Kulusevski (21) Vlahovic (21)​
I'd probably go 4-2-3-1 with Chiesa on the right, Aouar in the center, and Vlahovic up front. Get Kulu to play on the left (if he can't, find someone else), and find someone else for the RB position.
 

rainhard

Senior Member
May 5, 2004
4,365
Donnaruma
Cuadrado - De Ligt - Badiashille - Gosens
Pogba - Locatelli
Kulusevsky - Dybala - Chiesa
Vlahovic

Perin
Danilo - Demiral - Dragusin - Pellegrini
Arthur - McKennie
Berna - Fagioli - Correia
Morata

That is 22 some of them will need to rotate because we play in 3 front

Pinsoglio 3rd GK
Chiellini 5th CB (with Danilo versatility we will be OK for defense and mid)
Hamza Rafia utility player for midfield, attacking mid

Kulu can be backup for Dybala too, if Dybala injured we can play with 2 striker (more of 4-4-2 attacking winger)
Cuad and Gosens can be played as winger too I suppose so Danilo can fill their role if our wingers injured
Fagioli can be inserted here and there as CM backup or Dybala backup too (20-30 minutes will help his development and keep our key players to fatigue)
Danilo verstality in defense and can be put as midfielder if really needed is proven to be helpful

In
Donnaruma (free)
Badiashile (30M)
Gosens (35M)
Locatelli (35M)
Pogba (P/ex +15M)
Vlahovic (60M)
Perin (back from loan)
Pellegrini (back from loan)
Morata 10M -2nd loan

Dragusin - Fagioli - Correia - Rafia promote from U23

total : 185M

Total wages add = 53M
Donna 10M, Badiashile 5M, Gosens 5M, Locatelli 5M, Pogba 12M, Vlahovic 4M, Perin 1M, Morata 5M, Pellegrini 1M,U23 lets say 2M total

Out
Tek (25M) - to team like Wolves -Watford - Crystal Palace -Aston - Leeds will be great buy for them if he can accept around 5M/year
Alex Sandro (25M) - To Ligue 1 or Spain
Bonnuci (25M)
Rabiot (40M) - to EPL team
Bentancur (40M) - to Barca
CR7 (P/ex) - to Man U
Ramsey (20M) -to team (more or same like Tek) will be great buy for them if he can accept around 5M/year
Pjaca (10M)
Frabotta loan , other youngster back from loan add to U23

total : 185M and wages will be down drastically

Total wages save = 66.5M
Tek 6.5,Sandro 6M,Bonucci 6.5, Rabiot 7 , Bentancur 2.5, Ramsey 7, CR7 31

If we can't get Vlahovic, someone like Scamacca will be good as backup and try for Haaland season after that

Next season when Cuad contract is end, we can extend him as backup and go for top RB
And offload Arthur next year then add youngster top midfielder that can challenge Pogba and Locatelli
Selling Dybala will be the key next season (we need to get as much as possible) and go for 4-3-3 and invest more in CM area
Because I really think 4-3-3 will be more balance, but 4-2-3-1 will give more attacking threat but left the midfield and give hardwork for our defense
 
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