Brittany Murphy dead at 32 (2 Viewers)

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If she ODed on drugs, I have no sympathy for her, stupid bitch.
That is a disgusting thing to say, you make it sound as if she had this coming. I don't know much about her but even if she had bad habits its not like she was in any way hurting you, I don't see any reason to call her a stupid bitch the day after she dies because she had a problem. Everybody struggles with controlling their impulses and weaknesses and just because hers were drug related and yours aren't doesn't mean her death is any less sad than your own would be.
 

IrishZebra

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#49
That is a disgusting thing to say, why would she deserve to die because of drug use? I don't know much about her but even if she had bad habits its not like she was in any way hurting you, I don't see any reason to call her a stupid bitch the day after she dies because she had a problem. Everybody struggles with controlling their impulses and weaknesses and just because hers were drug related and yours aren't doesn't mean she deserves to die any more than you.
Where did I say that she deserved to die? I did not say that once, get your facts straight.
 

IrishZebra

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There, I changed it.
Good, to repsond to your new point, I know we all struggle with impulses but I don't go into excess or take illegal drugs/illegally prescribed drugs because I'm not a moron and realise that they can cause near instant death. I'm not going to feel sorry for somebody that couldn't do what I find straight forward and simple to do which is not to actively try and kill yourself.
 

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You have a point, but this is the same cynical attitude you had when it came to smoking. You are simplifying this by calling your actions simple, straight forward, and smart and labeling the actions of others foolish and plain wrong. I don't agree that this is such a black and white issue and I find your immediate judgment of another person and their choices just because you grew up in a different perhaps better environment foolish.

I see were you are coming from IZ, you are a very bright guy and when you look at it her actions do seem foolish. But what is straight forward for you is not always for other people, not because they are stupid but because they are living a completely different life. To say you "have no sympathy for her" just after she dies and she is a "stupid bitch" because of her personal problems just seems wrong to me.

Props to you for staying away from drugs but since you do, it is difficult for me to understand why you are making such black and white judgments over something which I am guessing you know nothing about.
Sometimes you have to jump down off that high horse to get the view from the ground.
 

IrishZebra

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1. I said if she did OD i had no sympathy, if she was on a cocktail of drugs obviously if she was on sleeping pills/anti-depressants and got confused a la heath ledger that's a different matter.
2.I never said I haven't done drugs, I said I don't.
3.What can I say my attitude is the product of a socialised nation, everybody here get's near enough the same chances. I may not know here circumstances intimately but if and i stress if it's the situation in point 1 re: a cocktail I drugs, I have enough cop on to know that if you have problems you go to a counsellor you don't take drugs and somebody as rich as her can afford a very good one.
 

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1. I said if she did OD i had no sympathy, if she was on a cocktail of drugs obviously if she was on sleeping pills/anti-depressants and got confused a la heath ledger that's a different matter.
2.I never said I haven't done drugs, I said I don't.
3.What can I say my attitude is the product of a socialised nation, everybody here get's near enough the same chances. I may not know here circumstances intimately but if and i stress if it's the situation in point 1 re: a cocktail I drugs, I have enough cop on to know that if you have problems you go to a counsellor you don't take drugs and somebody as rich as her can afford a very good one.
1. Why would that make any difference if she OD's on sleeping pills or Heroine? Just because one is legal and the other is not does not change anything IMO. They are both drugs with known side effects, willingly taken for a desired psychological effect. Sure whatever opiates she might have taken are more dangerous and habit forming than sleep pills buts its not like Heath Ledger's death is somehow sadder because he liked to get trashed in a legal way.
2. I don't want to pry into your private life but I really doubt that even if you went into more detail that this would change my opinion of your previous statements
3. I stand by what I said in my last post, you have said nothing here that I did not already share my opinion on
 

IrishZebra

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1. Why would that make any difference if she OD's on sleeping pills or Heroine? Just because one is legal and the other is not does not change anything IMO. They are both drugs with known side effects, willingly taken for a desired psychological effect. Sure whatever opiates she might have taken are more dangerous and habit forming than sleep pills buts its not like Heath Ledger's death is somehow sadder because he liked to get trashed in a legal way.
2. I don't want to pry into your private life but I really doubt that even if you went into more detail that this would change my opinion of your previous statements
3. I stand by what I said in my last post, you have said nothing here that I did not already answer
There's a difference between injecting yourself with smack and actually having to take anti-depressents and sleeping pill to stop themselves from committing suicide.


You can have your opinion all you want but to me it boils down to personal choice and if you choose to take illicit drugs or to go racing your shitty car with 16 spoilers etc then you've made a stupid choice and the wrong choice and I'm not going to feel sorry for you.
 
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#56
That is a disgusting thing to say, you make it sound as if she had this coming. I don't know much about her but even if she had bad habits its not like she was in any way hurting you, I don't see any reason to call her a stupid bitch the day after she dies because she had a problem. Everybody struggles with controlling their impulses and weaknesses and just because hers were drug related and yours aren't doesn't mean her death is any less sad than your own would be.
:andyandbarcelona:
Good, to repsond to your new point, I know we all struggle with impulses but I don't go into excess or take illegal drugs/illegally prescribed drugs because I'm not a moron and realise that they can cause near instant death. I'm not going to feel sorry for somebody that couldn't do what I find straight forward and simple to do which is not to actively try and kill yourself.
:agree:
 
Apr 12, 2004
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1. Why would that make any difference if she OD's on sleeping pills or Heroine? Just because one is legal and the other is not does not change anything IMO. They are both drugs with known side effects, willingly taken for a desired psychological effect. Sure whatever opiates she might have taken are more dangerous and habit forming than sleep pills buts its not like Heath Ledger's death is somehow sadder because he liked to get trashed in a legal way.
2. I don't want to pry into your private life but I really doubt that even if you went into more detail that this would change my opinion of your previous statements
3. I stand by what I said in my last post, you have said nothing here that I did not already share my opinion on
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#58
There's a difference between injecting yourself with smack and actually having to take anti-depressents and sleeping pill to stop themselves from committing suicide.


You can have your opinion all you want but to me it boils down to personal choice and if you choose to take illicit drugs or to go racing your shitty car with 16 spoilers etc then you've made a stupid choice and the wrong choice and I'm not going to feel sorry for you.
Fair enough, I have stated my opinion and I have nothing more to add
 
Apr 12, 2004
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There's a difference between injecting yourself with smack and actually having to take anti-depressents and sleeping pill to stop themselves from committing suicide.


You can have your opinion all you want but to me it boils down to personal choice and if you choose to take illicit drugs or to go racing your shitty car with 16 spoilers etc then you've made a stupid choice and the wrong choice and I'm not going to feel sorry for you.
Could not agree more.
 

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