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magician

Junior Member
Oct 22, 2022
350
They can threaten us all they like, if we had balls we'd prove our innocence in a real court, and grab those fucks by the balls. Instead all we have done is set a precedence of.... hey come and bend us over whenever you feel like
It's not just threatening but actually banning JJ from participating in their competitions, and then what, we lose all workers (from players to janitors and managers) and all money...

Then what? Disband the club?

Sadly all modern commercialized sports are under fascist institutions with little to no hope at breaking free from them.
 

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s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,540
You're dancing around the answer though. Who issued these fines to corporations that you highlighted? National governments. Who issued fines to us? Sporting organizations.

In fact, didn't the finance minister come out and say we did nothing wrong? @s4tch you post Twitter posts a lot, do you remember?
:boh: i can't recall it. politicians rarely speak out in favor of a club so directly but it's still possible
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,783
:boh: i can't recall it. politicians rarely speak out in favor of a club so directly but it's still possible
I distinctly remember there was a tweet posted by someone, but maybe I thought it was you because of this. I'll keep looking, I'm curious now.

Economy and Finance Minister Giorgetti: “If Juve made false accounts, I'd take away the stadium they own and not the points. Sports justice must be reformed.We cannot be lenient in such cases."
it is, but funny thing is that i read multiple quotes from the same interview and all of them are spot on. the minister urged some reforms of the italian sports justice system, and might just have made a joke about the stadium, hard to tell without context. i'll read the whole thing if i find it
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,540
I distinctly remember there was a tweet posted by someone, but maybe I thought it was you because of this. I'll keep looking, I'm curious now.
ah, that one. here's some stuff from that interview in english: https://football-italia.net/ministe...tus-legal-issues-and-sports-justice-problems/
here's the short interview: https://notizie.virgilio.it/il-mini...-e-colpevole-va-sequestrato-lo-stadio-1568576
too bad and typical that it's only the quoted ironic remark that was only quoted by the majority of the press
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,899
It's not just threatening but actually banning JJ from participating in their competitions, and then what, we lose all workers (from players to janitors and managers) and all money...

Then what? Disband the club?

Sadly all modern commercialized sports are under fascist institutions with little to no hope at breaking free from them.
ban us at their peril, we take it to the civil courts, win, take it to a european court if necessary and sue these fucks for damages. Stupid Elkann blinked first.
 

shilawieh

Junior Member
Mar 31, 2011
227
Dude, you're just deluded if u think we will escape that.
FFP is suspended. Doesn't mean you are allowed to cook your book.
Even without point deduction, huge fine still await us. And for violating financial, UEFA still will ban us from european competition. Minimum for a season. I don't think we will win the appeal too.
Every one is cooking books. You think companies don't fuck thier numbers for the stock markets shareholders meetings annual bs reports. 16 billion a year net income bank get 4 billion fine for laundering cartel money..They will try to make an example out of Juve so you no one think about fucking around with thier money. They won't punish RM or Barca because they still need them.. I still think Andrea is right and football is fucked. No one have time to watch 20 competitions with 90% useless filler matches.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,749
Talk about rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic... Saudi money drinking everybody's football milkshake, and some are still focused on the FIGC backwater.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,319
ban us at their peril, we take it to the civil courts, win, take it to a european court if necessary and sue these fucks for damages. Stupid Elkann blinked first.
and then the FIGC intervene and the authorities who cant wait to go at us again appeal and we are set for a new trial which specify a similar punishment. Been there done that.
I am pretty sure lawyers of such a big club know the work better than us the simple people.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,899
and then the FIGC intervene and the authorities who cant wait to go at us again appeal and we are set for a new trial which specify a similar punishment. Been there done that.
I am pretty sure lawyers of such a big club know the work better than us the simple people.
Shame we aren't a big club that hire proper lawyers. The plus valenza case alone should have been thrown out on a technicality alone! Even in 2006 our so called lawyers thought accepting serie B was a good punishment
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,540
Well officially UEFA and Ceferin won the war…

Congrats to them…

We have a new daddy…
incredibly disappointing development

not only ceferin can laugh his ass off, he also lets those saudi killers recruit overpaid footballers in the name of "giving back football to people". i hate modern football and i hate that agnelli & co all but failed in reforming it

we can of course always rejoin the project, it can of course be a distraction (or 4d chess in tuz terms), but it makes juve look weak either way. and i don't like to see a weak juventus

fans can feel that their club let them down for multiple reasons. bad signings, high ticket prices, terrible communication, uggo jerseys, you name it. jj did it all. i still never felt so disappointed in the club. sl was the only strategic idea jj seemed to stick with. now our (their) identity is completely empty and meaningless. fuck jj and that whole lot of nothing it stands for in 2023
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,540
this deserves a mention:



bottom line is that the prisma investigation will be moved from torino to milano. it means that the torino prosecution (including our "i hate juventus" guy santoriello) didn't even have the authority (!!!) to investigate the case. yet they fed journalists with news for months that were used to destroy the club and cause it damages of 100s of millions in actual revenue, market cap, brand value. i wonder what would happen with the evidences they illegally collected.

italy is a shithole, isn't it.
 

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