Belgium Bans The Burqa (1 Viewer)

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
#61
I can understand why a girl wants to wear a burqa, it makes her feel safe and annonymous and I can understand why a man is in favor but what I don't understand is why they also do this in another country
I travel a lot and when I'm in let's say HongKong I live by the rules and laws of that country.
when muslims or whoever come to Europe they should do the same
in Belgium nobody wants to see cloaked figures in public places because that gives everyone an uncomfortable feeling
it will soon be against the law so why make a fuss about it, especially when you say it is a cultural thing
it's not a country that should adapt to you, you should adapt to the country you live in

Thats true, for me personally i don't think they are stopping anyone from practicing their religion as imo our religion does not even ask women to wear these things. The debate here is about freedom, Europeans and the West in general keep on preaching to us about freedom and what not, but then they tell people what to wear.

I mean you have hypocrites like Andy for example going all berserk when according to him us muslims are against freedom of speech when shows like South Park say something about our prophet, but then on another day he says that burqas should be banned and women should not be allowed to wear them.
 

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David01

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Aug 20, 2006
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#62
I get your point but the other day I heard from a Brittish couple in a muslim country (don't remember which) and they were sentenced for kissing in public.
now to us in the West that sounds ridiculous and excaggerated.
but in a way I can understand it because that is the law in that country
so why can't people from a muslim-country understand that certain things that are common in their country are against the law in another country?
here in Belgium you can go to bars and drink whatever you want at the age of 18
in America you can get arrested for doing just that
I've lived in the US and I often wanted to get a beer
was that interfering with my freedom?
no, that's the law of the country I was in and it was up to me to live by it or suffer the consequences
 

JBF

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Aug 5, 2006
18,451
#63
Did you just equal having a drinking age in a country and banning women from their so called freedom of choice? :sergio:

Having the drinking age in a country is waaay different than banning women or anyone for that matter for the right to dress whatever they like, that ofcourse according to the same rules and amendments in the west in general while in the Middle East the whole justice and moral system is very different to the western one and we never claimed otherwise. But we rather used your own laws to argue that new law of banning Burke as it clearly contradicts with one of the main principles claimed in Europe and the West which is freedom of choice.
 

David01

Senior Member
Aug 20, 2006
2,825
#64
you tell me is their a difference in your choice of drink and a choice of clothes
and the point is that if a certain piece of clothing is against the law you should obey just like when drinking alcoholic beverages at the certain age is against the law
my point is that when tou are in a certain country you should always live by the laws at hand even if you are not used to them
 

JBF

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Aug 5, 2006
18,451
#65
This is a new law that is being debated here, 2 months ago the Burqa was legal so I still don't get your point, are you saying that this new law should be obeyed coz there's no doubt about that, or are you saying that every law (even if it was contradicting with the human values and morals) should be obeyed and isn't negotiable since after all you've to live by the law...
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
#66
I get your point but the other day I heard from a Brittish couple in a muslim country (don't remember which) and they were sentenced for kissing in public.
now to us in the West that sounds ridiculous and excaggerated.
but in a way I can understand it because that is the law in that country
so why can't people from a muslim-country understand that certain things that are common in their country are against the law in another country?
here in Belgium you can go to bars and drink whatever you want at the age of 18
in America you can get arrested for doing just that
I've lived in the US and I often wanted to get a beer
was that interfering with my freedom?
no, that's the law of the country I was in and it was up to me to live by it or suffer the consequences
Your right, you make some fair points. But the thing is we all know that we(Arab countries) live in dictatorships and there is limited freedom, but Europeans are always preaching about freedom and liberty and all that. So we expect a little more from them.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
#69
They made the law so that when somebody says "i saw a lady wearing a burqa today"

They'd go "Oh, that would never happen in Belgium"
 

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