Behind Enemy Lines (1 Viewer)

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
#21
OK, let me get you up to date.

After the death of Josip Broz Tito in 1980, the president of Yugoslavia, nationalist parties started coming to power. This was worsened with the appearance of Slobodan Milošević to the political scene. He manage to take power in the Communist party of Yugoslavia after gaining massive support of Serbian people after his speach in Kosovo. His famous sentence "Ne sme niko da vas dira" ("nobody may harm you" - loosely translated) was a guidline for the Serbian wars later on. he had a fixation of the Great Serbia, that would spread through most of the Balkans. That was no new concept. In fact, it was made hundreds of years before, in the form of a document called Nečertanije. He wanted all Serbs to live in one country, Serbia, which would take over the territories of the neighbouringh nations. He first started a war against Slovenia, after Slovenian representatives in the Yugoslavian parliament stormed out in protest after every one of their proposals was rejected. They were followed by the Croatian representatives. Slovenia soon declared independance, which lead Milošević to start a war campaign against them. Out of all the Yugoslavian nations Slovenia got the beast deal as they do not directly border with Serbia. After Croatia refused to let the JNA (Yugoslav national army) use it's bases in Croatia for the war against Slovenia, they too were the object of Serbian aggresion. Bosnia was the last to jump on the bandwagon. In the start of the ninties there were already nationalist parties on power, SDS (serb), SDA (muslim) and HDZ (croat). Bosnia and herzegovina wanted out of the then crippeled Yugoslavia as well. The last straw came when Radovan Karadžić, then the president of SDS and now the most hunted war criminal in the world, openly threatened the muslims after saying in the parliament "If you decide to pull out of Yugoslavia, I fear the muslims could be in danger or even completely destroyed as a people". After that, at the start of 1992 a referendum was held in which the majority of the people voted to pull out of Yugoslavia. Now, what you have to understand is that there are three religions living in Bosnia. The christian orthodox, or Bosnian Serbs, who identify themelves with Serbia, the chatolics, or Bosnian Croats that identify themselves with Croatia, and the Bosnian muslims, the only religion that actually consideres Bosnia and Herzegovina as their country. The serb militia put up barricades all across Sarajevo, stating the killing of a serbian couple on a wedding ceremony as a reason, but the fact is they were planning the war much before. The official start of the war is April 1992, when the first two casualties died. The people of Sarajevo launched massive demonstrations in front of the Holiday Inn hotel where Radovan Karadžić was staying in hope of stopping the war. Karadžić then ordered his snipers to shoot at the protesters. Two people died, a 21 year old student Suada Dilberović and a 35 year old woman Olga Sučić. After that, Bosnia was in war. The Bosnian Serbs turned against the Muslims and Croats with no other goal but to kill them all. Now, what you need to understand is that Bosnia didnt have an army of it's own. As a part of Yugoslavia, the JNA was responsible for its protection. But the JNA was controlled by Slobodan Milošević and Radovan Karadžić so it turned against the Bosnians. Bosnia was completely unprotected. Soon after the newly formed bosnian government organised the TO (territorijalna odbrana - terriotorial defense), which later became the Army of Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was formed out of volonteeres, regular people protecting their country and armed with nothin but light weapons, machine guns, bazookas, etc, while the bosnian serbs had one of the most powerful armies in the world at their disposal. Sarajevo had it the toughest. You see, Sarajevo is located in a valley, between four mountains, where the olympic games were held 8 years before. Now, instead of athletes, the mountains were filled with thousands of serb artillery. They shot thousands and thousands of shells on the civvilians of Sarajevo every day. Sarajevo is the city that has been under siege the longest in modern warfare, over a 1000 days. The only connection to the outside world was a tunnel, 800 meters long, 1.5 meters high and 1 meter wide. All the food, supplies and medicine came through there. On the Sarajevo markets one egg was 5 €, a kilo of coffee 50 €, etc. Now, it may sound like this was a civil war, but it was not. The bosnian serbs were supported by the JNA and Serbia and they commited crimes all over Bosnia. They set up concentration camps, killed innocend women and children, beheaded them, burned their houses and drove them out of the country, made them refugees. Their ony goal was to kill everyone, destroy the bosnian muslims. The biggest tragedy happened in 1995, when Radovan Mladić, a general of JNA and Karadžić's right hand, decide to take Srebrenica. Srebrenica was a protecten UN enclave at the time, filled with Dutch UN troops. Mladić just walked in there without any opposition from the UN. In fact, they might have even helped him. He seperated the women from the men. Any mad, age 14-90 that did not manage to escape, was killed. Around 10.000 of them, all in one day. They were later buried in mass graves. The Bosnian Army tried to fight back, with light weapons and what ever they managed to seize from the enemies. In fact, the UN had a weapons embargo on Bosnia so we could not even buy weapons to defend ourselves. Of course, there was still weapons smuggeling, but everything had to go through Croatia. They would take half of every load for themselves, and everything was fine until they turned on us. For a few onths in 1993 and 1994 the muslims had to fight on two fronts. There is even a drawing on a napkin made by Franjo Tuđman, the former president of Croatia, in a meeting with Miloševićwhich shows a map of B&H, diveded in two, a Croatian and a Serbian part. Their plan was to completely erradicate the muslims, as bugs. Luckily, after a few months a treaty was signed. Bosnia was still in complete chaos, the serbs did their best to take Sarajevo, which was the center of the ressistance. They knew if Sarajevo fell the war would be over. They bombarded the city, schools, markets, houses... As Sarajevo was devided in two as well, the old city centre and the surrounding neighbourghoods were controlled by the muslims while the rest was controlled by the Serbs. In fact, at places only a streed seperated the two worlds. Sarajevo was very close to falling. In fact, story has it that only one saved it. When 5 Serb tanks crossed the Skenderija bridge and went towards the centre and the presidants residence, one man jumped in front of them, and destroyed the first tank with a bazooka. The rest turned and went back. After the Srebrenica massacre, the world (US) finally decided to do something. They watched innocent people die for 3 and a half years without doing anything. In 1995 NATO bombed the serb positions and made the surrender. In December 1995 the Dayton peace treaty was signed, and almost 100.000 foreign troops came to protect it. The county was diveded in the by the treaty: Federacija BiH, the muslim and croat part, and Republika Srpska, the serb part, which was founded on genocide and crimes against humanity.

If anyone ever tells you there isnt anyone to blame for the war, you remember what I told you. There is, and it's the Serbs. Now, I'm not saying all serbs are war criminals, but the fact is tht 99% of them supported whe aggresion and genocide. Thy killed hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children, who wanted nothing but to live in peace. remember that.
 

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Dan

Back & Quack
Mar 9, 2004
9,290
#22
wow. thats alot to take in.

The movie is very well done and shocking... i was bloody mortified in some scenes! I think its a great movie, but its a bit nationalistic.
 

K10

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
2,698
#23
Thank you for educating me Zlatan. I will remember what you said.

One thing, Serbs are muslims? Or what?
 
Jan 7, 2004
29,704
#28
++ [ originally posted by blackmint ] ++
wow. thats alot to take in.

The movie is very well done and shocking... i was bloody mortified in some scenes! I think its a great movie, but its a bit nationalistic.

dan. try living in the balkans man. you are either nationalistic or dead.
 

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