Beckham to Land in Milan?? (1 Viewer)

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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#21
++ [ originally posted by Negative Creep ] ++


No I havent seen him.
You should because he's a damn good player.

Beckham has more than just freekicks, he is the greatest crosser in the world perhaps. Think back to becks at MU, he would cross from his own half and set players up perfectly. He almost single handedly won leagues. He was brilliant.

Well I said he has a very good right foot, sure. I really don't think Beckham won Man United titles single handedly so there is no reason to respond to that. Having a brilliant right peg is great, however you need much more to be a fantastic or complete player. Believe me, I know..


Hes also very hardworking, he dosent suit madrid or spain at all. But put becks into a milan-juve game or the like and he will shine every time.
Oh right. He sure did shine against us last Wednesday. :howler:

I really can't agree with you there at all. Italy is much different from England.

I think he would be good in italy and you could be eating the old humble pie :D
The best midfielders in Italy have a brilliant touch and are well-rounded. I don't think Beckham would be as good as you think.
 

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Trezeguet_FC

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Mar 26, 2003
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#23
We all said the same thing about Crespo. Now look at how Crespo is doing compared to his shiity form at the start. IMO, Becks would adapt to Milan well and make them even more dynamic. Milan have a way of taking advantage of players to their fullest (unlike their neighbours) and I can see Becks' career resurrecting at Milan.

But that's my opinion.
 
Mar 7, 2005
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#25
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
Well I said he has a very good right foot, sure. I really don't think Beckham won Man United titles single handedly so there is no reason to respond to that. Having a brilliant right peg is great, however you need much more to be a fantastic or complete player. Believe me, I know..


Yeah you know. Have you even seen Beckham pre-madrid?

The best midfielders in Italy have a brilliant touch and are well-rounded. I don't think Beckham would be as good as you think.
Beckham has a great touch, and you dont need to be 'well rounded' to play right midfield. If you think Beckham couldnt do as good a job as camoranesi and the like (I would hardly compare veron and gattuso to a right midfielder) then thats just another overblown andy opinion.

If Juve has Beckham, Camo would be warming the bench. Why I think Becks will be good in Italy? Because he can cross and pass, Veron is a success in Italy for his passing and crossing and Beckham can times that by 2. Beckham can make things happen as much as anyone.

But we'll see.
 

Respaul

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
4,734
#26
This argument isnt overly interesting to me... as its jus going over the same tired biased stuff that has been rehashed over and over and over again.

However I am interested in this....

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
Believe me, I know..
So Andy... Why should we beleive you, what do you know... why is this thing you know so important?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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#27
++ [ originally posted by Negative Creep ] ++




Yeah you know. Have you even seen Beckham pre-madrid?
No, especially not living in the US where 50% of the matches shown are Manure-lized. :rolleyes:



Beckham has a great touch, and you dont need to be 'well rounded' to play right midfield. If you think Beckham couldnt do as good a job as camoranesi and the like (I would hardly compare veron and gattuso to a right midfielder) then thats just another overblown andy opinion.
Veron infact starts on the right side of midfield with Inter however he has the freedom to roam. Gattuso plays on the right side of Milan's midfield, usually holding back for Cafu's run up the flank. Beckham's touch in La Liga has not been that good so I don't see how Beckham would do any better in Serie A. Another aspect of David's game that I question is his defending and positioning, something very integral to most Italian midfields. I really doubt Beckham is better defensively than Camoranesi.

If Juve has Beckham, Camo would be warming the bench. Why I think Becks will be good in Italy? Because he can cross and pass, Veron is a success in Italy for his passing and crossing and Beckham can times that by 2. Beckham can make things happen as much as anyone.
Have you seen Camoranesi lately? He blows Beckham right out of the water, especially when the two met on Wednesday. Beckham was almost completely nonexistent, even in the first leg in Madrid. I would take Camoranesi anyday because he's quicker, has a better touch, better moves with the ball, and knows how to defend. The only upgrades Beckham would provide are better crosses and free-kicks. So I don't think we need Beckham on Juventus, nor do I want him here.

Your final statement about Beckham making things happen as much as anyone is a joke, and I know you know that. And as everyone knows I don't live in the past. Beckham is a good player but he's hardly a world-beater, probably not even world class in most people's book. He does have a world class right peg though.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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#28
++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
This argument isnt overly interesting to me... as its jus going over the same tired biased stuff that has been rehashed over and over and over again.

However I am interested in this....

So Andy... Why should we beleive you, what do you know... why is this thing you know so important?
Well, you might laugh it off but I don't care.

I have a brilliant right peg myself, being able to distribute the ball like no other players I know (that's what people say anyways), read the game very well and have a great touch. However I lack pace, quickness, and the ability to fly past defenders one v one. I have been passed up several times for more complete players and I realized that you need to have more than just a great right peg to be successful.

Not that it's important, but you asked.
 
Mar 7, 2005
573
#29
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


No, especially not living in the US where 50% of the matches shown are Manure-lized. :rolleyes:





Veron infact starts on the right side of midfield with Inter however he has the freedom to roam. Gattuso plays on the right side of Milan's midfield, usually holding back for Cafu's run up the flank. Beckham's touch in La Liga has not been that good so I don't see how Beckham would do any better in Serie A. Another aspect of David's game that I question is his defending and positioning, something very integral to most Italian midfields. I really doubt Beckham is better defensively than Camoranesi.



Have you seen Camoranesi lately? He blows Beckham right out of the water, especially when the two met on Wednesday. Beckham was almost completely nonexistent, even in the first leg in Madrid. I would take Camoranesi anyday because he's quicker, has a better touch, better moves with the ball, and knows how to defend. The only upgrades Beckham would provide are better crosses and free-kicks. So I don't think we need Beckham on Juventus, nor do I want him here.

Your final statement about Beckham making things happen as much as anyone is a joke, and I know you know that. And as everyone knows I don't live in the past. Beckham is a good player but he's hardly a world-beater, probably not even world class in most people's book. He does have a world class right peg though.
Who said hes world class? George Best is world class. I have never mentioned anyone as world class since I came here. Dont bring that into every discussion. When I think someones world class, I'll tell you ok? :D

Sure Becks is out of place right now with Madrid, he dosent suit the team at all and for some reason cannot play his best there. He has though played some good games lately, and has shown moments of the real david beckham throughout the two seasons.

No that wasnt a joke. Beckham can pick the ball up in his own half and set a foward up. Something camo cant do. You mentioned defending etc, nice for an attacking midfielder it can be done without. Beckham at Juve, with trez up front would be nothing short of explosive. I guess you dont consider such things.
 
Mar 7, 2005
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#30
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Well, you might laugh it off but I don't care.

I have a brilliant right peg myself, being able to distribute the ball like no other players I know (that's what people say anyways), read the game very well and have a great touch. However I lack pace, quickness, and the ability to fly past defenders one v one. I have been passed up several times for more complete players and I realized that you need to have more than just a great right peg to be successful.

Not that it's important, but you asked.
Come on now.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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#31
++ [ originally posted by Negative Creep ] ++


Who said hes world class? George Best is world class. I have never mentioned anyone as world class since I came here. Dont bring that into every discussion. When I think someones world class, I'll tell you ok? :D

Sure Becks is out of place right now with Madrid, he dosent suit the team at all and for some reason cannot play his best there. He has though played some good games lately, and has shown moments of the real david beckham throughout the two seasons.

No that wasnt a joke. Beckham can pick the ball up in his own half and set a foward up. Something camo cant do. You mentioned defending etc, nice for an attacking midfielder it can be done without. Beckham at Juve, with trez up front would be nothing short of explosive. I guess you dont consider such things.
I guess I just don't see it that way. It's not like we have fast strikers who burst into open space and do a lot of moving about the pitch. Beckham's crossing ability would be an asset to the team however where would we put Camoranesi? Camoranesi can set up forwards by the way, just not with such a forcefull ball like Beckham. The latter could set up Trezguet rather nicely, however if Camo was left out of the side we would lose pace in midfield, something we need. I guess it's a double-edge sword.

He might be able to impress, however I have my doubts. Unless he moves to Milan I guess we will never find out if Beckham would succeed Italy.
 

Respaul

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
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#33
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Well, you might laugh it off but I don't care.

I have a brilliant right peg myself, being able to distribute the ball like no other players I know (that's what people say anyways), read the game very well and have a great touch. However I lack pace, quickness, and the ability to fly past defenders one v one. I have been passed up several times for more complete players and I realized that you need to have more than just a great right peg to be successful.

Not that it's important, but you asked.
Dont get so defensive Andy... it was jus a question, Not an attack.
Not every post aimed at you is an assault... some people are genuinly interested in something you said..

You answered it in a decent way, so why would i laugh at you.
To be honest that was probably the most enlightening post you have ever made on this forum imo
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,537
#34
++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++


Dont get so defensive Andy... it was jus a question, Not an attack.
Not every post aimed at you is an assault... some people are genuinly interested in something you said..

You answered it in a decent way, so why would i laugh at you.
To be honest that was probably the most enlightening post you have ever made on this forum imo
My fault, at first I thought you asked it in a sarcastic fashion.

One of the most enlightening posts I have made? Wow, I didn't put much thought into that at all. :dazed:
 

Len

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2004
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#37
It will be good for the image and promotion of Italian football..... especially in Asia, where Beckham is like a god..
 

gray

Senior Member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2003
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#38
Oh please Beckham, go to Milan.

Hopefully Ancelotti will realise what an awesome player Becks is and reshuffle his tactics so he could start ahead of that over-rated Kaka guy
 

IncuboRossonero

Inferiority complex
Nov 16, 2003
7,039
#39
I don't believe Beckham is as CRAP as everyone makes him out to be...these days the "in" thing to say is that Beckham is worthless and that he has no skills, etc. I disagree. He can be useful. To what level....thats another story.
That said, Beckham could be a welcome to Milan: as adding depth to the bench. He CANNOT start over players like Seedorf, Pirlo, Kaka or even Gattuso: they all have a very specific role on Milan in which Ancelotti and the team utilizes well. Beckham would have many issues in Serie A: adapting, pace, style, etc. Milan will not "break" a good thing for the sake of selling jerseys. I doubt he would take a bench role. I can understand why he would not want to.
Beckham to start in Milan? Forget it.
Beckham to star in Milan? Forget it.
I'm not touching the issue on whether he has the skills required or how he compares to our midfielders. That is another issue. The issue here is breaking apart our system to mold to Beckham. NO WAY. No one is worth that.
Rui Costa, Ambrosini, Tomasson can start in many teams but choose to have a secondary role with Milan. Would Beckham? Probably not...however, that is the only place I could see him useful to us.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
#40
Beckham at Milan? To start with, not only would that be a useless transfer move by Milan, they'll probably lose someone more effective to their system like Ambrosini who by the way also plays second fiddle to the Gattusos, Pirlos, Kakas and Seedorfs. Beckham in all likelihood, will not be willing to accept a second string role, which would eventually lead his career elsewhere. Maybe back to England, at Arsenal or Chelsea.

He's done precious little during his time at Madrid, that probably stands testament to the fact that he lacks versatility in his game, which is probably very important if a player has to make a career, away from the league that has bred him.
 

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