Bahrain 2011 Demonstrations (4 Viewers)

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    I merely posted two articles. One of them is from a foreign newspaper and the other one is from the official Bahraini agency. It is not that I'm making these news out of nothing. Saudi regime decided to support the dictator in Bahrain (exactly like what they did in Tunisia and Egypt earlier) to kill the people there in order to stay ruling regardless how the majority of the people there feel mistreated.

    Do you really believe that civilian protestors would attack a policeman using a sword? Isn't it illogical to have a sword against a gun? These incidents you mentioned about anti-regime demonstrators killing Pakistanis and Bangals, do you really believe them? Why would those demonstrators do that?
     

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    Now Bahrain is occupied by Saudi militants. Too sad for free Bahrainis who will be slaughtered under this brutal regime.
     
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    Al Manar (Lebanese channel): 200 Saudi military vehicles enter Rifa'a district in Bahrain while thousands of protesters head to Pearl square in the middle of Manama.
     

    K.O.

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    I merely posted two articles. One of them is from a foreign newspaper and the other one is from the official Bahraini agency. It is not that I'm making these news out of nothing. Saudi regime decided to support the dictator in Bahrain (exactly like what they did in Tunisia and Egypt earlier) to kill the people there in order to stay ruling regardless how the majority of the people there feel mistreated.
    Absolutely not the majority of people. Not even all Shiites!

    Do you really believe that civilian protestors would attack a policeman using a sword? Isn't it illogical to have a sword against a gun? These incidents you mentioned about anti-regime demonstrators killing Pakistanis and Bangals, do you really believe them? Why would those demonstrators do that?
    That's the thing. I don't believe by reading, I see. I live in Khobar and go to Bahrain on daily basis. I have close friends all over Bahrain, from all sects. Educated Shiites are disgusted and embarrassed by these barbaric events.

    Again, the use of the word 'protester' and 'demonstrator' is extremely misleading. Definitely not Pro-Democracy, if any, they're pro-Islamic autocracy led by Shiites religious leaders.

    The 'thug' is holding a knife. Watch at 2:55.


    Was it photoshoped? I don't think so. It's crystal clear.



    Here's a video of the Pakistanis getting beaten up to death by the thugs.



    I don't know but does blocking the streets and attacking neighborhoods is protesting? Does invading the university and stopping classes is demonstrating? Well, in democratic countries, those are called 'Thugs' or 'mobs'.


    Anyway, ReB, I'm telling you this is very different from Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and Yemen where all sects or at least most of the people are protesting peacefully. You need to come here to fully understand the situation, it's terrible! I have Sunni friends working in 'Al-Salmanya' Hospital, they say most doctors and nurses are shiites, they're refusing to help Sunni civilians who're severely injured!
     
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    Mate, I'm not denying that there is violence over there, but who did it? It's the regime thugs who are trying to terrify people to make them stop demonstrating asking for their rights.
     

    K.O.

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    Mate, I'm not denying that there is violence over there, but who did it? It's the regime thugs who are trying to terrify people to make them stop demonstrating asking for their rights.
    :sergio:

    Again, demonstrating and asking for their rights by blocking the main street, stopping businesses, invading universities, breaking cars, computers and terrorizing neighborhoods?

    What regime thugs? you mean Police?
     

    Zé Tahir

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    KO, there is nothing in the Pakistani newspapers about anyone being killed. Where are you getting that from? I find it funny how you can identify that they're South Asians being targeted, as if they're carrying flags, or celebrating a holiday out on the street. You can't be targeting 'a people' by harming one or two guys of the same nationality.

    Also thought it was funny how you mentioned that Bahraini protesters attacked unarmed police demonstrators (irony lol, demonstration can only be legitimate if of free will, not orchestrated by a regime) because they like to get shot. When does anyone ever like to get shot at? Seriously.

    I don't get your angle on this. You seem to not want/care for any of these demonstrations.
     

    Mohad

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    Nothing wrong with what K.O. said, Ze. I also live in Khobar, and what is happening in Bahrain is a very different case. Shiites have a culture of violence, they are attacking their Sunnis neighborhoods with "molotov cocktail" and reducing to fire pits which disrupt even the most basic of services such as electricity. This is terror.
     

    Zé Tahir

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    Nothing wrong with what K.O. said, Ze. I also live in Khobar, and what is happening in Bahrain is a very different case. Shiites have a culture of violence, they are attacking their Sunnis neighborhoods with "molotov cocktail" and reducing to fire pits which disrupt even the most basic of services such as electricity. This is terror.
    You guys are saying the same things Israeli's say about Palestinians. When you have a rich ruling Sunni minority that doesn't treat its citizens fairly then you'll see 'violence'.

    Don't throw the word terror around so easily. So they disrupt a few basic services for a few days, the regime has been denying them basic rights and services for decades.
     

    K.O.

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    KO, there is nothing in the Pakistani newspapers about anyone being killed. Where are you getting that from? I find it funny how you can identify that they're South Asians being targeted, as if they're carrying flags, or celebrating a holiday out on the street. You can't be targeting 'a people' by harming one or two guys of the same nationality.
    The news about the 17 south asian workers being attacked are official. Check out the video I posted, I don't invent news. If you're interested you can check with the Pakistani embassy.

    BTW, in Bahrain, there are Bahrainis who are from Pakistani and Indian origins who are living in Bahrain for more than 25 years. The government recognize them as citizens with full citizenship rights. However, Shiites consider them as unwanted citizens, even though they helped greatly in the infrastructure of the country.

    Those South Asians who were attacked weren't Bahrainis they're foreign construction workers.

    Also thought it was funny how you mentioned that Bahraini protesters attacked unarmed police demonstrators (irony lol, demonstration can only be legitimate if of free will, not orchestrated by a regime) because they like to get shot. When does anyone ever like to get shot at? Seriously.
    I attached videos and photos of this. The police didn't have fire arms because they were instructed to open up 'King Faisal' road and faciliate traffic since 'Thugs' were blocking the street, the main road in Bahrain, preventing people from going to work and universities. Check out the videos.

    When does anyone ever like to get shot at? :D That just shows how little information you've got about Shiites. It's enough to know about their 'religious' rituals in Ashora'a, they even include poor kids in their disgusting so called rituals!

    I don't get your angle on this. You seem to not want/care for any of these demonstrations.
    I don't care about thugs and mobs invading universities, neighborhoods, damaging cars, public facilities and terrorizing innocent people all night long. Do you call those demonstrators? Whatever you call 'em.

    Nothing wrong with what K.O. said, Ze. I also live in Khobar, and what is happening in Bahrain is a very different case. Shiites have a culture of violence, they are attacking their Sunnis neighborhoods with "molotov cocktail" and reducing to fire pits which disrupt even the most basic of services such as electricity. This is terror.
    :tup:

    This is the truth. It's terror. Calling them 'demonstrators' is just ridiculous.

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    Update: Unconfirmed news about some Sunni Bahraini civilians living in mostly shiite inhabited neighborhood 'Setra' are being taken as hostages now, while the GCC forces are entering Bahrain. If this is true, it's getting ugly and dirty, very dirty!

    GCC forces called 'Der'a Aljazeera' are Saudi, Kuwaiti, Bahraini, Qatari, Emarati and Omani forces. Not just Saudi forces.
     

    K.O.

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    Just a reminder, not all Shiites are involved in this. It seems uneducated and highly religious Shiites are the ones involved. One of my mates is a Bahraini Shiite, we both graduated last summer from Nottingham Uni, he told me he's disgusted and embarrassed by this. Some Sunnis are thinking all Shiites are involved and this is very wrong.
     

    Zé Tahir

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    The news about the 17 south asian workers being attacked are official. Check out the video I posted, I don't invent news. If you're interested you can check with the Pakistani embassy.
    I'm not saying you're inventing news but I question your sources. I searched for this news in the Pakistani media and none of them save The Express have any mention of it.
    BTW, in Bahrain, there are Bahrainis who are from Pakistani and Indian origins who are living in Bahrain for more than 25 years. The government recognize them as citizens with full citizenship rights. However, Shiites consider them as unwanted citizens, even though they helped greatly in the infrastructure of the country.

    Those South Asians who were attacked weren't Bahrainis they're foreign construction workers.
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    Yeah, I'm aware of this. The Bahraini govt seems glad to import Sunni's from abroad to join their military and civil service before allowing any Shia's in those positions :disagree: Funny considering its neighboring countries would never ever hand out citizenships to a foreigner.


    I attached videos and photos of this. The police didn't have fire arms because they were instructed to open up 'King Faisal' road and faciliate traffic since 'Thugs' were blocking the street, the main road in Bahrain, preventing people from going to work and universities. Check out the videos.

    When does anyone ever like to get shot at? :D That just shows how little information you've got about Shiites. It's enough to know about their 'religious' rituals in Ashora'a, they even include poor kids in their disgusting so called rituals!
    Come on man. What an outrageous comment. Ashura has a completely different meaning to them.

    Btw, I'm well aware of Shia's. Quite a number of them in Pakistan...not to mention its founder was a Shia ;)

    I don't care about thugs and mobs invading universities, neighborhoods, damaging cars, public facilities and terrorizing innocent people all night long. Do you call those demonstrators? Whatever you call 'em.



    :tup:

    This is the truth. It's terror. Calling them 'demonstrators' is just ridiculous.
    I don't mind you being critical of these demonstrators but why aren't you criticizing the government? Do you think they're innocent and do in fact treat all their citizens equally?
     

    K.O.

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    Yeah, I'm aware of this. The Bahraini govt seems glad to import Sunni's from abroad to join their military and civil service before allowing any Shia's in those positions :disagree: Funny considering its neighboring countries would never ever hand out citizenships to a foreigner.
    Now that's from a Shiite's point of view. They're paranoid, they think those were brought to increase Sunnis population where in fact, they were living here for long long years, some of them had roots in Bahrain for more than 300 years. From this point of view, you can as well, go back and check the history of inhabitants of Bahrain. Do Sunnis call +90% of Shiites in Bahrain Iranians and unwanted citizens? No.

    Come on man. What an outrageous comment. Ashura has a completely different meaning to them.
    This is outrageous...














    I don't mind you being critical of these demonstrators but why aren't you criticizing the government? Do you think they're innocent and do in fact treat all their citizens equally?
    The government called for meetings with the Shiites parliament members and opposition leaders, simultaneously, religious Shiites like 'Hasan Mushaimeh' took advantage of lack of Police in the streets to form a kind of militia and block the main road in Manama and took control. Again, CHECK THE VIDEOS, it's a terrorist militia.

    If you're really interested in this, Ze, you need to read more about what's really happening in Bahrain over the last decade.
     

    Zé Tahir

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    You're intent on focusing on the events of the past 3-4 weeks but completely over look history. Go read articles from Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International and you'll get a completely different picture.

    As for the photo's you've posted: This is not about Ashura or Shia vs Sunni. This is about political and economical rights that are being denied to citizens of a country.

    If you want to debate theology then let's do that somewhere else. I'll be happy to debate the amount of atrocities Sunni's, Wahabi's in particular, have committed around the world including tarnishing the image of Islam in the world along with strange & sick practices of Shia Muslims.
     

    K.O.

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    I agree, the photos has nothing to do with this, I just wanted to show you which is more outrageous my comments or the criminal acts on innocent children.

    No matter how you and I try to make it all an economical issue, the truth is while more than 18 Parliament Shiites members in Bahrain were holding meetings with the king and other members of the parliament, radical Shiites rebellions led by 'Hassan Mushaimah' took advantage of lack of Police in the streets to attack universities and neighborhoods. Terror.

    'Hassan Mushaimah' is a radical anti-Government Shiite leader who was allowed to come back from London after 3 years outside Bahrain. During this period, he was treated from a cancer in a London hospital by Bahrain Government, ironically! He turned against them after the successful treatment of his cancer, what an ass! Hasan Mushaimah should be arrested for terrorism.

    Not all Shiites are part of this, only those who want to make 'Mushaimah' the 'Khamenei' of Bahrain. A shiite friend of mine is in a bad, very bad morale because of this.

    I hope the GCC forces end this, peacefully, and they will.

    Btw, I agree, Wahhabi's are criminals just like those radical Shiites.
     
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    You guys are saying the same things Israeli's say about Palestinians. When you have a rich ruling Sunni minority that doesn't treat its citizens fairly then you'll see 'violence'.

    Don't throw the word terror around so easily. So they disrupt a few basic services for a few days, the regime has been denying them basic rights and services for decades.
    I could not say it better.

    By the way, my friend here from Jordan had an offer 5 years ago in Bahrain. They were not ashamed to tell him during the interview that it is so easy for him to take the Bahraini nationality as soon as he goes there. Of course, he refused, because we all know that Arabs who are given Bahraini nationality are used just to oppress the majority Shiah people there. We all know how giving the nationality to foreigners in other Gulf countries is almost impossible. And it is so clear that Saudi regime wants to help Bahraini dictator to wipe Shiia off the Bahraini map.

    It was so shame yesterday that while Saudi forces were occupying Bahrain to oppress people, Bahraini official Tv was broacasting LIVE a dance for both Saudi and Bahraini dictators as if there was nothing wrong going on.
     
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    The White House: Sending Saudi troops to Bahrain is NOT an invasion!!

    Says who? Justice spreaders all over the world?
     

    K.O.

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    By the way, my friend here from Jordan had an offer 5 years ago in Bahrain. They were not ashamed to tell him during the interview that it is so easy for him to take the Bahraini nationality as soon as he goes there. Of course, he refused, because we all know that Arabs who are given Bahraini nationality are used just to oppress the majority Shiah people there. We all know how giving the nationality to foreigners in other Gulf countries is almost impossible. And it is so clear that Saudi regime wants to help Bahraini dictator to wipe Shiia off the Bahraini map.
    :lol: You are full of shit! It seems you're the only one who knows this, mate.

    BTW, one of the biggest businessmen in Saudi Arabia, Eastern prvince is Gazzawi a PALESTINIAN who got Saudi nationality before he got rich.

    It was so shame yesterday that while Saudi forces were occupying Bahrain to oppress people, Bahraini official Tv was broacasting LIVE a dance for both Saudi and Bahraini dictators as if there was nothing wrong going on.
    That was old footage of Jnadirya event. It was shown while the breaking news of the GCC forces entering Bahrain was broadcasted. It wasn't LIVE. The program showing the Jinadrya event was LIVE. Get your facts straight.

    The White House: Sending Saudi troops to Bahrain is NOT an invasion!!

    Says who? Justice spreaders all over the world?
    Again, it's called GCC forces, and they're formed by all 6 Gulf countries including Bahrain to help protect the security. Once they enter Bahrain, they get operated by Bahrain.

    Stephen Hawking was spot on when he said: "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge".
     

    Gamaro

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    I really hope the Sunni-shia conflict is not the main reason behind the protests in Bahrain,i really have no idea about that but i hope from the bottom of my heart that this conflict is not thrown in between,I believe everyone should have equal rights in Bahrain,whether Sunni or shia,and Bahraini people should solve the matter themselves,and let no interference form neither Saudi nor Iran.

    I have no any problem if shia people rule the country,but i just don't want the country to be a doll in Iran's hands.

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    When does anyone ever like to get shot at? :D That just shows how little information you've got about Shiites. It's enough to know about their 'religious' rituals in Ashora'a, they even include poor kids in their disgusting so called rituals!
    K.O
    We are Sunni,that's true
    We don't agree with many of their rituals,that's also true
    But no need to mock them,you won't get anything by that.We want to narrow the gap between us and them not broaden it.




    I'm not saying you're inventing news but I question your sources. I searched for this news in the Pakistani media and none of them save The Express have any mention of it.
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    Yeah, I'm aware of this. The Bahraini govt seems glad to import Sunni's from abroad to join their military and civil service before allowing any Shia's in those positions :disagree: Funny considering its neighboring countries would never ever hand out citizenships to a foreigner.




    Come on man. What an outrageous comment. Ashura has a completely different meaning to them.

    Btw, I'm well aware of Shia's. Quite a number of them in Pakistan...not to mention its founder was a Shia ;)



    I don't mind you being critical of these demonstrators but why aren't you criticizing the government? Do you think they're innocent and do in fact treat all their citizens equally?
    Was Mohamad Ali Jinah Shia?

    If you want to debate theology then let's do that somewhere else. I'll be happy to debate the amount of atrocities Sunni's, Wahabi's in particular, have committed around the world including tarnishing the image of Islam in the world along with strange & sick practices of Shia Muslims.
    Are you Ahmadi?
     

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