Bürke's Calciopoli v Farsiopoli Thread (16 Viewers)

[Sarah]

Hehehehe, i guess you are about 19 year old...Sad 4 u, that u can't tell the difference between grown-up and your childlike converse (doesn't surprise me, seeing that u r Bayern fan-TROTL), go and play whit your X-box, and leave calcio alone...you dunce...



Who is the fucking retard now...

What does that mean? I am not familiar with that phrase in internet lingo.

 

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[gsol]

Hey Jack, doesn't this thread violate forum rules? I recall you giving me shit for it

 

[HelterSkelter]

Salinter

"Why is everyone not shouting slogans against the scandal from their rooftops?"

Have you been to a game since and read the banners.

"Why do so many people at much higher postions than you,and with far more intelligence than you and your messiah Gsol,not make any noise?"

I guess appealing in a Continental court isn't noisy enough.

"Why is most of the''We werent guilty' lines come from the man who was at the heart of the scandal himself ie Luciano Moggi?"

Should he lie?

"Are you trying to tell me that Juventus has no support in Italy and the entire country has joined hands to bring Juventus down?"

No just the FIGC and Telecom...that's all it took.

"Are you trying to tell me that there are no Juventus sympathizers in the higher authorities?"

There are many and they have spoken up too (like former Prime Minister Cosiga), unfortunately they did not preside over the trial.

"Of Italy's population of 59,206,382 there is no a SINGLE person not associated with Juventus who can come forward and demand justice for the club?"

Luc Mission (lawyer), Antonello Angellini(TV Personality), Giuseppe Belvisio (Lawyer), Carlo Padovano (Journalist) and thousands more that I find stupid listing.

"Or is your Messiah the only one who knows every thing that the scandal held?"

In this thread...yes

"People likeyou can stay in your comfortable cacoon and say that Juventus is the most innocent club the world ever saw.And everytime you do that,id piss you on with common sense."

Don't talk about common sense until you demonstrate it. You are still defending an unlawful trial despite all the points that clearly show its illegitimacy.

No i have not been to a Juventus game since.I have never been to a Juventus game in my life,let alone after the scandal.Why shoudnt Moggi lie?Do you really expect him to come out and admit his guilt?Do you really expect him to come out and admit that he was involved in false footballing practices?I do not know people such as Belvisio,Mission etc because i dont live in Italy.My guess is that they are Juventus supporters,and i asked you to bring people not associated with Juventus.Lets assume that you do manage to bring people who despite not being Juventus supporters,do think that Juventus were hard done by.How many people do you have?In hudreds of thoudands?And if they infact ARE crying for justice,then where are they?Why doesnt the former prime minister you mention excercise whatever power he has in Juventus's favour?Why dont people who arent Juventus fans cry out for justice for the club on the simple basis of moral grounds?

Id keep on defending that trial unless someone with a lot more authority than a random Internet poster comes up and claims to be the savior Juventus needed all this time,because i do not trust you or your authority even a bit.

Oh bullocks. I can give you one of these too:

"Do you have a shred of evidence that we're guilty? Do you have a clue as to what the motive was? Are you just trying to look unique and cool because you think we're guilty?"

Look buddy, just because there are more Juve fans in Italy doesn't mean that they're all lawyers or judges or that they own phone companies or that they were the president of Italy at that time. Your argument has no base.

Is that it? You want to seem different? You think you'll be treated differently if you think different than others? Cause it's not working. You seem like an idiot for believing the opposite just for the sake of it. We are like the wind blowing in one direction, and you're trying to pee on us, but it's not working and it's turning around and hitting your right in the face

Is the verdict not an evidence?If i wanted to be cool and different then id be slaming Inter,Milan etc because thats what your lot is doing these days.Im not trying to be different.People like you are trying to be different by weeping over how Juventus was hard done by and how our club is as innocent as a new born baby.Im trying to be 'normal' like other people who wont jump on the bandwagon of a person who comes up and claims that Juventus is innocent.Im beliving what a lot of other people,people who use a lot more common sense than simply sucking up to someone who brings up a few fancy looking documents,who's legitimacy can be questioned btw.Its not hitting me in the face Tahir.Its hitting people like you in the face who just dont want to admit their club was involved in unsporting behaviour.You love for Juventus is blinding your mind.You'd rather think that Juventus is innocent,because that seems to be much easier than admitting that Juventus was at fault.You people will believe anything as long as its what you want to believe.The argument about Juventus having more fans than any other club has a lot of base.You expect those people to cry out for justice like never before,but where are they?Why are most Juventus supporters not protesting?By most i mean the majority.Show me images of videos where you have hunderds and thousands of Juventus fans rioting in the streets of Italy against the verdict handed out to the club.Sure,having the largest fan base doesnt guarantee you more top stops amongst the rich and powerful of the country,but it does give you the power to raise hell and protest like mad.Why arent clever Juventus fans like you doing that?Juventus enjoys a lot of support outside Italy too.Why dont people protest in hunders and thousands in Lebanon?In Saudi Arabia?

Anyway,im off now.Id reply to Newton and Einstein tomorrow.

 

[JCK]

Hey Jack, doesn't this thread violate forum rules? I recall you giving me shit for it

What shit did I give you, gsol? Please tell me. I closed your thread then I opened it.

I told you not to call names but you still do. I never gave you a warning in whatever form the warning is. I was never impolite to you and I will never be. it does violate from the rules but I am accepting that because I don't want Burke to post in your thread.

 

[JCK]

Is the verdict not an evidence?If i wanted to be cool and different then id be slaming Inter,Milan etc because thats what your lot is doing these days.Im not trying to be different.People like you are trying to be different by weeping over how Juventus was hard done by and how our club is as innocent as a new born baby.Im trying to be 'normal' like other people who wont jump on the bandwagon of a person who comes up and claims that Juventus is innocent.Im beliving what a lot of other people,people who use a lot more common sense than simply sucking up to someone who brings up a few fancy looking documents,who's legitimacy can be questioned btw.Its not hitting me in the face Tahir.Its hitting people like you in the face who just dont want to admit their club was involved in unsporting behaviour.You love for Juventus is blinding your mind.You'd rather think that Juventus is innocent,because that seems to be much easier than admitting that Juventus was at fault.You people will believe anything as long as its what you want to believe.The argument about Juventus having more fans than any other club has a lot of base.You expect those people to cry out for justice like never before,but where are they?Why are most Juventus supporters not protesting?By most i mean the majority.Show me images of videos where you have hunderds and thousands of Juventus fans rioting in the streets of Italy against the verdict handed out to the club.Sure,having the largest fan base doesnt guarantee you more top stops amongst the rich and powerful of the country,but it does give you the power to raise hell and protest like mad.Why arent clever Juventus fans like you doing that?Juventus enjoys a lot of support outside Italy too.Why dont people protest in hunders and thousands in Lebanon?In Saudi Arabia?

Words have never been so much valuable.
+REP forever!

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

your words are worse than venom

 

[Zé Tahir]

No i have not been to a Juventus game since.I have never been to a Juventus game in my life,let alone after the scandal.Why shoudnt Moggi lie?Do you really expect him to come out and admit his guilt?Do you really expect him to come out and admit that he was involved in false footballing practices?I do not know people such as Belvisio,Mission etc because i dont live in Italy.My guess is that they are Juventus supporters,and i asked you to bring people not associated with Juventus.Lets assume that you do manage to bring people who despite not being Juventus supporters,do think that Juventus were hard done by.How many people do you have?In hudreds of thoudands?And if they infact ARE crying for justice,then where are they?Why doesnt the former prime minister you mention excercise whatever power he has in Juventus's favour?Why dont people who arent Juventus fans cry out for justice for the club on the simple basis of moral grounds?

Id keep on defending that trial unless someone with a lot more authority than a random Internet poster comes up and claims to be the savior Juventus needed all this time,because i do not trust you or your authority even a bit.



Is the verdict not an evidence?If i wanted to be cool and different then id be slaming Inter,Milan etc because thats what your lot is doing these days.Im not trying to be different.People like you are trying to be different by weeping over how Juventus was hard done by and how our club is as innocent as a new born baby.Im trying to be 'normal' like other people who wont jump on the bandwagon of a person who comes up and claims that Juventus is innocent.Im beliving what a lot of other people,people who use a lot more common sense than simply sucking up to someone who brings up a few fancy looking documents,who's legitimacy can be questioned btw.Its not hitting me in the face Tahir.Its hitting people like you in the face who just dont want to admit their club was involved in unsporting behaviour.You love for Juventus is blinding your mind.You'd rather think that Juventus is innocent,because that seems to be much easier than admitting that Juventus was at fault.You people will believe anything as long as its what you want to believe.The argument about Juventus having more fans than any other club has a lot of base.You expect those people to cry out for justice like never before,but where are they?Why are most Juventus supporters not protesting?By most i mean the majority.Show me images of videos where you have hunderds and thousands of Juventus fans rioting in the streets of Italy against the verdict handed out to the club.Sure,having the largest fan base doesnt guarantee you more top stops amongst the rich and powerful of the country,but it does give you the power to raise hell and protest like mad.Why arent clever Juventus fans like you doing that?Juventus enjoys a lot of support outside Italy too.Why dont people protest in hunders and thousands in Lebanon?In Saudi Arabia?

Anyway,im off now.Id reply to Newton and Einstein tomorrow.

To be quite honest, I haven't even read that many posts of gsol. Most of what I base my arguments on are from what I know of the scandal from what I've learned over the last year. So gsol hasn't brought anything forward to change my opinion on this matter.

Who said we're innocent like a new born baby? I don't know what 'dirty' things go on with clubs but I do know that a team like Juventus doesn't need to pay off referee's to win. You might be Juve fan since the late 90's and winning the scudetto is something new to you, but I'm used to it. I know that we are capable of winning it without paying of some fucking ref. Now if you said that Inter, Roma, or even fucking Albinoleffe has payed off referee's to win that you might have an argument. Especially with Inter because year in and year out they accuse us of something. They blame their shortcomings on us so it wouldn't surprise me that they resorted to something like this.

I'm not calling for any justice, I know that we can't get our scudetti back and that we can't make up for the year lost, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to accept guilt. You're welcome to do what ever you want, but I won't live in peace until my teams name has been cleared of this bull.

edit: What verdict? This case was a joke. It would have been laughed at anywhere else. You want to make a corruption case? Make it against the Italian justice system

You know what's even funnier...them knowing that they'd just gotten away with relegating one of the most successful teams in the world, they threatened us from appealing it. What a fucking joke.

 

[JCK]

your words are worse than venom

This may be considered an insult but I will not step down to your level.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

it was for salman's extreme anti-juve post

 

[Red]

your words are worse than venom

Have you ever thought about view something to do with Juventus objectively?

You should try it sometime, things appear very different.

 

[JCK]

it was for salman's extreme anti-juve post

That post was not anti-Juve. Salman is a Juve fan whether you like it or not and you don't love Juve more than he does.

 

[gsol]

"No i have not been to a Juventus game since.I have never been to a Juventus game in my life,let alone after the scandal.Why shoudnt Moggi lie?Do you really expect him to come out and admit his guilt?Do you really expect him to come out and admit that he was involved in false footballing practices?"

considering that would be a lie why would he say it?

"I do not know people such as Belvisio,Mission etc because i dont live in Italy.My guess is that they are Juventus supporters,and i asked you to bring people not associated with Juventus.Lets assume that you do manage to bring people who despite not being Juventus supporters,do think that Juventus were hard done by.How many people do you have?In hudreds of thoudands?And if they infact ARE crying for justice,then where are they?Why doesnt the former prime minister you mention excercise whatever power he has in Juventus's favour?Why dont people who arent Juventus fans cry out for justice for the club on the simple basis of moral grounds?"

Cosiga has no power anymore and your question is stupid. Had Venezia been unjustly relegated I wouldn't have done shit. Obviously those acting on Juve's behalf love the team. I seriously doubt anyone else would care to do so.

"Id keep on defending that trial unless someone with a lot more authority than a random Internet poster comes up and claims to be the savior Juventus needed all this time,because i do not trust you or your authority even a bit."

Much bigger people than me are appealing this in a much bigger place than an internet forum and you already know that




"Is the verdict not an evidence?"

yes and The verdict states no match fixing

"Im trying to be 'normal' like other people who wont jump on the bandwagon of a person who comes up and claims that Juventus is innocent."

Yet you jumped on the opposite bandwagon


"Im beliving what a lot of other people,people who use a lot more common sense than simply sucking up to someone who brings up a few fancy looking documents,who's legitimacy can be questioned btw."

Once again refusing facts isn't a demonstration of common sense. It's a demonstration of stupidity.



"Its not hitting me in the face Tahir.Its hitting people like you in the face who just dont want to admit their club was involved in unsporting behaviour."

that's been admitted. Had we been charged for that we would never have argued the case. We were charged for something else dumbass.


"You'd rather think that Juventus is innocent,because that seems to be much easier than admitting that Juventus was at fault."

No easy is accepting it, hard was researching it and finding the truth


"You people will believe anything as long as its what you want to believe."

No I'll believe what's proven

"The argument about Juventus having more fans than any other club has a lot of base.You expect those people to cry out for justice like never before,but where are they?"

In court in Europe...keep on asking but the answer won't change.


"Why are most Juventus supporters not protesting? Show me images of videos where you have hunderds and thousands of Juventus fans rioting in the streets of Italy against the verdict handed out to the club. Show me images of videos where you have hunderds and thousands of Juventus fans rioting in the streets of Italy against the verdict handed out to the club."

I take it you didn't see the newspapers and News shows that showed major steets in Italy blocked off for protests on numerous occasions.

"Why arent clever Juventus fans like you doing that?Juventus enjoys a lot of support outside Italy too.Why dont people protest in hunders and thousands in Lebanon?In Saudi Arabia?"

Because few had access to the info I am providing here.

 

[gsol]

you gave me shit for opening a thread where one already existed and only re-opened it when the other was closed jack

 

[JCK]

you gave me shit for opening a thread where one already existed and only re-opened it when the other was closed jack

I only closed the thread, if you consider that shit then I can honestly say that you are over-sensitive.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Sure, Salman's a Juve fan, but he's also a nigger lover.

 

[JCK]

Sure, Salman's a Juve fan, but he's also a nigger lover.

Better than being a Juve fan and wasting energy hating other teams.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Better than being a Juve fan and wasting energy hating other teams.

I hate other teams because they're rivals. I hate Inter because they are the scum of the earth.

Call it what you want, but there's nothing weird about it. You two are the weird ones. Wasting your energy supporting a team that cheats.

 

[rounder]

I hate other teams because they're rivals. I hate Inter because they are the scum of the earth.

Call it what you want, but there's nothing weird about it. You two are the weird ones. Wasting your energy supporting a team that cheats.

All teams cheat my man . One day you'll see . Juve just got caught in the act .
You would have to be very naive to think that Juve s the only culprit in football.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

so best way of being Juventus fan

wasting energy hating everbody who says Juventus are innocent

 

[Red]

All teams cheat my man . One day you'll see . Juve just got caught in the act .
You would have to be very naive to think that Juve s the only culprit in football.

Or to think that Juve weren't doing anything wrong.