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.So the Italian ultras had access to a hose and used it to screw with the Serbs. That doesn't excuse the Serbs whatsoever, but now it should be clear that yes, this is also an Italian issue.
But it always was an Italian issue, since it is their stadium.
This is like having a terrorist detonate a dirty bomb in the Rose Bowl and Americans saying, "well, who cares if it's our stadium, Al Qaeda did this and we don't have any ability to stop it. It's all Pakistan's fault for not informing us."
If you want a job done right, you gotta do it yourself.
But it always was an Italian issue, since it is their stadium.
This is like having a terrorist detonate a dirty bomb in the Rose Bowl and Americans saying, "well, who cares if it's our stadium, Al Qaeda did this and we don't have any ability to stop it. It's all Pakistan's fault for not informing us."
If you want a job done right, you gotta do it yourself.
Alen, so the Serbian fans took Albania flag with them planning to brun it only in case water is being poured on them 
I never agree with a 3-0 win for Italy but those kinds of justifications are ridiculous. Italy police force were warned? So what? Only because they were warned doesn't mean they had to manage to control those idiots. Serbia police force must have prevented them from traveling to Italy in the first place.
I never agree with a 3-0 win for Italy but those kinds of justifications are ridiculous. Italy police force were warned? So what? Only because they were warned doesn't mean they had to manage to control those idiots. Serbia police force must have prevented them from traveling to Italy in the first place.
Alen, so the Serbian fans took Albania flag with them planning to brun it only in case water is being poured on them
I never agree with a 3-0 win for Italy but those kinds of justifications are ridiculous. Italy police force were warned? So what? Only because they were warned doesn't mean they had to manage to control those idiots. Serbia police force must have prevented them from traveling to Italy in the first place.
I never agree with a 3-0 win for Italy but those kinds of justifications are ridiculous. Italy police force were warned? So what? Only because they were warned doesn't mean they had to manage to control those idiots. Serbia police force must have prevented them from traveling to Italy in the first place.
Security wasn't up to scratch & there's no point in pointing fingers when the Italian FA & police failed the public in Italy.
The FIGC? It's down to the police to answer questions. The FIGC have already said they had no warning, so you go and believe the Serbian FA, your choice. The Serbian ultra dickheads came to cause trouble, they caused trouble, they got arrested, they will be sent home. That is the only issue here, people are clutching at straws with their own little agendas trying to find something to blame, reasons for it. The reasons are as simple as you are going to get. Now, if the only reason people are upset is because they don't want a 3-0 default to Italy, because they'd rather Italy played the game and faced a possible loss then they need to think about their priorities. If they think that this was done deliberately to get the game abandoned, thus indirectly drawing more negative publicity to Italy and it's policing, then they really are kidding themselves. Conspiracy theories, the irony.
Italy has had problems in domestic games. in the last couple of years, although clearly lessened with the new initiatives. Which is why I said 'because it is Italy', not the victim bullshit but because this sort of stigma lasts a long time. If Italy had no recent troubles the bullshit blame from the Serbian FA wouldn't even have a leg to stand on, and it shouldn't do now. Because it is Italy (understand my point before you go 'victim Italy again'), it has an ounce of credibility to begin with, fact or fiction.
The FIGC has taken a lot of positive steps, you are clearly uneducated on the subject. Now we are getting somewhere. Don't hold your breath for Serbia - THE INSTIGATORS OF THIS TROUBLE - to do the same.
But yeah, I suppose if an Italian looked at a Serbian wrong before the match then that gives justification to what they did before and afterwards. Maybe they didn't give them a light in the street. Jesus fucking christ. Of course there are always things that can be improved, there always are, but understand this - without the organised trouble from the Serbian ultras there is no issue. Nothing. When was the last time there was any kind of similar event in an Italy home game? This is nothing to do with Italy. If you go looking for trouble you get trouble. That's what happened here, case closed.
Serbian ultras are responsible, along with their FA. I don't understand how this simple point can be escaped or excused. Italy can answer its own questions afterwards, and they are questions like what the police can do better and better co-ordination between FA's. It's like shooting people and then blaming it on the guy who sold you the gun, take responsibility FFS. Saying Serbia deserve to escape punishment based on these things is absolutely ludicrous!!! Let them do it time and again as long as there is some little angle we can work, to shift the blame!
Do you know what this reminds me of? It reminds me of when English hooligans were running amok at the height of their hooliganism. They blamed every fucking thing in sight. Local police instigating trouble. Poor stadiums. Poor organisation. Alcohol being sold in the vicinity. They blamed the media for exaggerating trouble. They blamed politicians. Social marginilisation. They accused foreign FA's of being racist towards them. It went on for years until people died. Foreign fans, our fans. OUR FANS. THEIR FANS. Then they got banned for several years and it became checked. English hooligans still try to get to England games now and are stopped. They (EDL to be specific) still tried to get to the World Cup this year and were stopped. Let's see some action before everyone else gets blamed first.
Italy has had problems in domestic games. in the last couple of years, although clearly lessened with the new initiatives. Which is why I said 'because it is Italy', not the victim bullshit but because this sort of stigma lasts a long time. If Italy had no recent troubles the bullshit blame from the Serbian FA wouldn't even have a leg to stand on, and it shouldn't do now. Because it is Italy (understand my point before you go 'victim Italy again'), it has an ounce of credibility to begin with, fact or fiction.
The FIGC has taken a lot of positive steps, you are clearly uneducated on the subject. Now we are getting somewhere. Don't hold your breath for Serbia - THE INSTIGATORS OF THIS TROUBLE - to do the same.
But yeah, I suppose if an Italian looked at a Serbian wrong before the match then that gives justification to what they did before and afterwards. Maybe they didn't give them a light in the street. Jesus fucking christ. Of course there are always things that can be improved, there always are, but understand this - without the organised trouble from the Serbian ultras there is no issue. Nothing. When was the last time there was any kind of similar event in an Italy home game? This is nothing to do with Italy. If you go looking for trouble you get trouble. That's what happened here, case closed.
Serbian ultras are responsible, along with their FA. I don't understand how this simple point can be escaped or excused. Italy can answer its own questions afterwards, and they are questions like what the police can do better and better co-ordination between FA's. It's like shooting people and then blaming it on the guy who sold you the gun, take responsibility FFS. Saying Serbia deserve to escape punishment based on these things is absolutely ludicrous!!! Let them do it time and again as long as there is some little angle we can work, to shift the blame!
Do you know what this reminds me of? It reminds me of when English hooligans were running amok at the height of their hooliganism. They blamed every fucking thing in sight. Local police instigating trouble. Poor stadiums. Poor organisation. Alcohol being sold in the vicinity. They blamed the media for exaggerating trouble. They blamed politicians. Social marginilisation. They accused foreign FA's of being racist towards them. It went on for years until people died. Foreign fans, our fans. OUR FANS. THEIR FANS. Then they got banned for several years and it became checked. English hooligans still try to get to England games now and are stopped. They (EDL to be specific) still tried to get to the World Cup this year and were stopped. Let's see some action before everyone else gets blamed first.
Damned if you do and damned if you don't really.I feel really sorry for Serbian NT, they are the real victims of this. They've got bunch of pussies instead of federation and bunch of thugs and criminals instead of fans. It will only benefit their team if rest of the matches are played without their "fans", also less trouble for the fucktards in federation.
