Azzurri Thread (59 Viewers)

[Salvatore]

Germany 1-1 Italy
Italy 2-1 Spain

Regarding the defense, Italy have the best defensive record in qualification so far (2 goals conceded). None conceded at home.

 

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[Roman]

Regarding the defense, Italy have the best defensive record in qualification so far (2 goals conceded). None conceded at home.

 

[Trequartista]

To be fair, Italy's group was very weak.

 

[Vlad]

Serbia and Slovenia are always tricky opponents, especially Serbia.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Our coach is an idiot, otherwise we'd be much stronger. This Serbia is rather fragile at the moment, despite our weak mentality.

But we 'dropped' 3 points in Italy due to stadium riots.

 

[Vlad]

Our coach is an idiot, otherwise we'd be much stronger. This Serbia is rather fragile at the moment, despite our weak mentality.

But we 'dropped' 3 points in Italy due to stadium riots.

That was unfair because the game was played in Italy so Italians should be responsible for security. Even though I like Italy it seemed like a setup.

 

[ALC]

Germany 1-1 Italy
Italy 2-1 Spain

Weren't they both friendlies? Doesn't mean anything imo.

 

[Alen]

Italy may not be the world class of 2006 but then there's nothing in Europe that has me shaking in my boots. Spain? Once again talented but c'mon... they don't have Messi and one of the worst Italian teams ever still pushed them to penalties in 08.

Excellent point. I don't see what is more special about a Messiless Spain compared to Prandelli's Italy.

Spain might have won the last euro, the last world cup, they might be full of players who won the last CL, they might be having a 17-0-0 record in the WC 2010 and EURO 2012 qualifiers, all of that achieved without Messi, but as you said...c'mon. Three years ago they failed to beat in 120 minutes the WC holders who practically had the same team that won the WC only 2 years before that.
Italy, as everyone can check, managed to beat the Faroe Islands (twice!), Estonia (twice!) and Slovenia (twice!) in these current qualifiers and that's as good, perhaps a little better, than what Spain is doing.
Italy have nothing to fear. They are (much) better than this Spain team without Messi.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Montolivo should be dropped. Him playing behind the two strikers does not work

In fact he shouldn't be in the team at all.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Excellent point. I don't see what is more special about a Messiless Spain compared to Prandelli's Italy.

Spain might have won the last euro, the last world cup, they might be full of players who won the last CL, they might be having a 17-0-0 record in the WC 2010 and EURO 2012 qualifiers, all of that achieved without Messi, but as you said...c'mon. Three years ago they failed to beat in 120 minutes the WC holders who practically had the same team that won the WC only 2 years before that.
Italy, as everyone can check, managed to beat the Faroe Islands (twice!), Estonia (twice!) and Slovenia (twice!) in these current qualifiers and that's as good, perhaps a little better, than what Spain is doing.
Italy have nothing to fear. They are (much) better than this Spain team without Messi.

Haha

 

[Vlad]

Montolivo should be dropped. Him playing behind the two strikers does not work

In fact he shouldn't be in the team at all.

He has personality of a little girl.

 

[ALC]

Alen's been on a roll lately.

 

[Fake Melo]

Excellent point. I don't see what is more special about a Messiless Spain compared to Prandelli's Italy.

Spain might have won the last euro, the last world cup, they might be full of players who won the last CL, they might be having a 17-0-0 record in the WC 2010 and EURO 2012 qualifiers, all of that achieved without Messi, but as you said...c'mon. Three years ago they failed to beat in 120 minutes the WC holders who practically had the same team that won the WC only 2 years before that.
Italy, as everyone can check, managed to beat the Faroe Islands (twice!), Estonia (twice!) and Slovenia (twice!) in these current qualifiers and that's as good, perhaps a little better, than what Spain is doing.
Italy have nothing to fear. They are (much) better than this Spain team without Messi.

TBH Italy played really well against Germany where Spain got trashed by Portugal. You don't have to be a genius to say that this Spain will not win EC2012, even the stats are against them.

IMO they have no chance of winning EC2012, they cheated their way to the finals in WC2010 like Barca. Fuck those maggots.

 

[Alen]

TBH Italy played really well against Germany where Spain got trashed by Portugal. You don't have to be a genius to say that this Spain will not win EC2012, even the stats are against them.

IMO they have no chance of winning EC2012, they cheated their way to the finals in WC2010 like Barca. Fuck those maggots.

They still have the best team. The motivation will probably be against them since there are some quality trophy hungry teams out there while the Spanish players won practically everything in the last years, country and club wise, so I'm not sure that they'll be hungry enough to give their best.

 

[ALC]

I think it's Germany's time. Even at the WC. They've got so many great young players, they could even pull two WC wins in a row

 

[Fake Melo]

They still have the best team. The motivation will probably be against them since there are some quality trophy hungry teams out there while the Spanish players won practically everything in the last years, country and club wise, so I'm not sure that they'll be hungry enough to give their best.

+ EC2008, WC2010, You can't win EC2012. You just can't. Even if they win it I'll refuse to believe so.

But the Barcelona mentality is so toxic and spread in the NT, fuckers cheated their way to WC win. They're dirty pigs.

 

[Fake Melo]

I think it's Germany's time. Even at the WC. They've got so many great young players, they could even pull two WC wins in a row

Germany has to be the team of the last ten years.

Runners up in WC 2002
3rd place in WC 2006
Runners up in EC2008
Runners up in WC2010

Spain were ultimate chokers before 2008. Once again Barca mentality.

 

[Vlad]

I think it's Germany's time. Even at the WC. They've got so many great young players, they could even pull two WC wins in a row

It's very rare thing to win WC in a row. I can't see that happening. Italy pulled it but long ago 1934, 1938.

 

[Alen]

Germany has to be the team of the last ten years.

Runners up in WC 2002
3rd place in WC 2006
Runners up in EC2008
Runners up in WC2010

Spain were ultimate chokers before 2008. Once again Barca mentality.

You made a mistake up there. I'll let you find it by yourself.

 

[ALC]

It's very rare thing to win WC in a row. I can't see that happening. Italy pulled it but long ago 1934, 1938.

They're always contenders so if they get a little lucky I don't see why not.