Arturo Vidal (82 Viewers)
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Oh, I put 50/50 Vegas odds on it. There's something not right about that guy in a Subway Jared way.
But Pep's success wasn't just Messi. Have we forgotten how Spain was the underachieving joke throughout history and suddenly they were arguably one of the best NTs of all time -- without Messi, but with many Spanish starters on the Barca side.
But Pep's success wasn't just Messi. Have we forgotten how Spain was the underachieving joke throughout history and suddenly they were arguably one of the best NTs of all time -- without Messi, but with many Spanish starters on the Barca side.
Spain team which won Euro 2008,
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3 Barça players in the starting lineup.Barca weren't really the starting point behind Spain's golden era.
But when vdb arrived, they mirrored Barça's system under pep which won them the 10 WC and '12 euros.
Casillas-Ramos-Puyol-Marchena-Capdevilla-Silva-Marcos Senna-Xavi-Iniesta-Villa-Torres
3 Barça players in the starting lineup.Barca weren't really the starting point behind Spain's golden era.
But when vdb arrived, they mirrored Barça's system under pep which won them the 10 WC and '12 euros.
When Pep took the Team with all those amazing players It wasn't so obvious to said fuck etoo, ronaldinho, ibra or whoever you want. We played for messi and who got in the middle is out.
For instance, Argentine still don't get this simple idea. All ball for messi, noone else matter, no di Maria, no pastore, no agüero, no anyone else... If you are in front of the net alone and messi is next to you. Pass the fucking ball.
For instance, Argentine still don't get this simple idea. All ball for messi, noone else matter, no di Maria, no pastore, no agüero, no anyone else... If you are in front of the net alone and messi is next to you. Pass the fucking ball.
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Not at all, i think he's a coach that came to barca when they were on a downward spiral, they were declining and were 3rd in the league when he took over. He made some brave and tough decisions, he instilled a winning mentality and brought discipline to the team, and he tweaked their game in a way that made barca one of the best and most effective teams in Europe.
This is what i dont understand. Have Real not assembled teams that were as good as barca individually? People keep saying anyone can win stuff with Barcelona because of Messi, yet those same people do not extend that logic to Madrid, despite the fact that they have an almost equally effective player in Ronaldo. The same people that say Pep had an amazing team that anyone could win titles with often believe at the same time that Ronaldo is better than Messi, Xavi is a limited player that only plays sideway passes, Busquets is an overrated useless player, Pique is a poor man's Bonucci, and Alves is a typical Brazilian fullback who cant defend. We don't even have to go too far, i bet raz believes all those things
This is what i dont understand. Have Real not assembled teams that were as good as barca individually? People keep saying anyone can win stuff with Barcelona because of Messi, yet those same people do not extend that logic to Madrid, despite the fact that they have an almost equally effective player in Ronaldo. The same people that say Pep had an amazing team that anyone could win titles with often believe at the same time that Ronaldo is better than Messi, Xavi is a limited player that only plays sideway passes, Busquets is an overrated useless player, Pique is a poor man's Bonucci, and Alves is a typical Brazilian fullback who cant defend. We don't even have to go too far, i bet raz believes all those things
