Arturo Vidal (35 Viewers)

[Hust]

That's because your opinions are wrong. This whole thing started when you bashed Vidal for playing a game no worse (in fact it was significantly better) than the ones Marchisio has recently played and yet I've seen no comment from you about those until you were prompted apparently but I don't follow your every move on here. You completely lack objectivity on these matters.

My opinions are wrong? LOL Ok, Nenna.

I just didn't think he had a great game agains Milan(repeated). I have no problem to date with Vidal, I like the guy a lot actually (another repeat). You have your opinion and I have mine. Not saying you or anyone else is wrong(another repeat), I just feel like his possession was weak and put the team under pressure. (another repeat).

Of course you don't follow my every move on here, I can tell. I don't lack objectivity, I just view some scenarios differently. Go watch the 8 bad passes from Vidal and tell me he didn't have complete lapse of concentration on some of them.

Do your homework before you turn in an unfinished product, Nenna.

 

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[Hust]

Reiteration is required.

Funny, the same could be said to you.

 

[Nenz]

My opinions are wrong? LOL Ok, Nenna.

I just didn't think he had a great game agains Milan(repeated). I have no problem to date with Vidal, I like the guy a lot actually (another repeat). You have your opinion and I have mine. Not saying you or anyone else is wrong(another repeat), I just feel like his possession was weak and put the team under pressure. (another repeat).

Of course you don't follow my every move on here, I can tell. I don't lack objectivity, I just view some scenarios differently. Go watch the 8 bad passes from Vidal and tell me he didn't have complete lapse of concentration on some of them.

Do your homework before you turn in an unfinished product, Nenna.

You view scenarios without objectivity because you can look at Vidals 8 bad passes and conclude that he had a bad game from that without acknowledging one good thing he did. If you would bother looking at Vidal's entire game instead of focusing on his mistakes only, you could easily conclude that he contributed more good than he did bad and the stats will back that up but you haven't done that. So yeah you're not objective.

 

[IrishZebra]

Vidal has done fuck all so far, mostly because he hasn't got a good run. You can't judge him one way or the other, it's an exercise in futility IMO.

 

[Hust]

Vidal has done fuck all so far, mostly because he hasn't got a good run.

Uh oh.

 

[Hust]

You view scenarios without objectivity because you can look at Vidals 8 bad passes and conclude that he had a bad game from that without acknowledging one good thing he did. If you would bother looking at Vidal's entire game instead of focusing on his mistakes only, you could easily conclude that he contributed more good than he did bad and the stats will back that up but you haven't done that. So yeah you're not objective.

"So yeah you're not objective"

I just re-watched the entire game last night focusing on him. That's why I listed EVERY SINGLE bad pass he had, who/where he fucking blasted the ball too. If you are too lazy to go and rewatch that then I guess the real one not being objective isn't me, its you.

To REPEAT what I've said a million times already, I agreed with Red on one of his assessments on the game in regards to Vidal. He worked hard, recovered well, and in some cases actually got the ball BACK after HE LOST IT. My conclusion, not that you care, is that giving possession so cheapily & carelessly as he did ALL GAME LONG doesn't justify even close a "great game" tag that you give him. He gave the ball away 4 minutes into the first half and resulted in a counter that begun already in our defensive third and an effort on goal. I thought to myself, maybe he is just jittery in the big game but he did it all the way until like the 84th minute. But hey, to your defense at leat he completed 3 out of 3 long balls.

 

[Nenz]

Vidal has done fuck all so far, mostly because he hasn't got a good run. You can't judge him one way or the other, it's an exercise in futility IMO.

I would say that his physical pressure alone improved our play especially in terms of our press. He played poorly in the Catania game and against Milan he made mistakes but he was lively and made important passes and most of all he pressured and tackled which was a huge reason why we dominated Milan in the first place. I think if he were given enough consecutive starts he would hit his straps and take us to the next level but that will only happen if he has the chance to find some rhythm but signs so far is that he has the characteristics to allow the team to execute our game plan which involves possession football. This futile argument is just like the Melo vs Marchisio one except Vidal is a better player than Melo was.

 

[Nenz]

"So yeah you're not objective"

I just re-watched the entire game last night focusing on him. That's why I listed EVERY SINGLE bad pass he had, who/where he fucking blasted the ball too. If you are too lazy to go and rewatch that then I guess the real one not being objective isn't me, its you.

To REPEAT what I've said a million times already, I agreed with Red on one of his assessments on the game in regards to Vidal. He worked hard, recovered well, and in some cases actually got the ball BACK after HE LOST IT. My conclusion, not that you care, is that giving possession so cheapily & carelessly as he did ALL GAME LONG doesn't justify even close a "great game" tag that you give him. He gave the ball away 4 minutes into the first half and resulted in a counter that begun already in our defensive third and an effort on goal. I thought to myself, maybe he is just jittery in the big game but he did it all the way until like the 84th minute. But hey, to your defense at leat he completed 3 out of 3 long balls.

I never said he had a great game and just because you rewatch a game doesn't make you objective if all you look for is bad passes when its clear that he allowed us to dominate the game BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEHHHH. That's what I am reading right now.

 

[Hust]

I would say that his physical pressure alone improved our play especially in terms of our press. He played poorly in the Catania game and against Milan he made mistakes but he was lively and made important passes and most of all he pressured and tackled which was a huge reason why we dominated Milan in the first place. I think if he were given enough consecutive starts he would hit his straps and take us to the next level but that will only happen if he has the chance to find some rhythm but signs so far is that he has the characteristics to allow the team to execute our game plan which involves possession football. This futile argument is just like the Melo vs Marchisio one except Vidal is a better player than Melo was.

If Vidal is going to take us to the next level (which I don't deny, he probably can when he, as you say, hits his straps) then I have ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM with him starting. As long as we win. My problem isn't that he is a bad player, but for some reason you seem to keep thinking that.

If conte sees fit that he starts then its for a very good reason that I wouldn't disagree with. Not sure how many ways I can reword the same fucking thing for you to understand this. I am running out of words.

 

[Fake Melo]

Can we have Marchisio VS Vidal thread? I am getting sick of this shit.

 

[Hust]

I never said he had a great game and just because you rewatch a game doesn't make you objective if all you look for is bad passes when its clear that he allowed us to dominate the game BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEHHHH. That's what I am reading right now.

You're reading and translating only what you want to hear, unfortunately for you it isn't everything and that sir, is not being objective.

I have already acknowledged what he did well. Let's say it together Nenna "Cameron has already acknowledged things that Vidal has done well".

I rewatched the game not to see what he did well, I saw that the first game. My opinion, again, is that of his possession and lapse of concentration before making the passes so I watched the game again to find the exact times he fucked up. Not for me to convince myself because I already did that the first time watching it live, but so you guys could go back and watch it for yourselves. Whether you do or don't I could care less. I did my homework, my point is now supported by actual evidence/facts.

 

[Hust]

Can we have Marchisio VS Vidal thread? I am getting sick of this shit.

Well, if you can convince people that I do in fact like Vidal and want him to play then can probably close this chapter once and for all. Until people stop reading only what they want to read instead of everything, it isn't going to happen because they will only convince themselves what they want.

 

[Nenz]

If Vidal is going to take us to the next level (which I don't deny, he probably can when he, as you say, hits his straps) then I have ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM with him starting. As long as we win. My problem isn't that he is a bad player, but for some reason you seem to keep thinking that.

If conte sees fit that he starts then its for a very good reason that I wouldn't disagree with. Not sure how many ways I can reword the same fucking thing for you to understand this. I am running out of words.

Why don't you stop getting so damn sensitive when I say that Marchisio is shit and lazy and a complete passenger and just stop getting me into these useless arguments where I have to point out again and again how stupid you are? Its not like I'm calling you any names just give up and stop wasting my time I don't want to put anyone on my ignore list but you're just unbearably annoying sometimes. If you love Marchisio so much go blow him its none of my concern just don't post about it in the Vidal thread when you're done.

 

[DVS]

Can we have Marchisio VS Vidal thread? I am getting sick of this shit.

So early in the season I think Conte has been doing a good job utilizing both on the pitch. Juve needs both to be successful

 

[Hust]

Why don't you stop getting so damn sensitive when I say that Marchisio is shit and lazy and a complete passenger and just stop getting me into these useless arguments where I have to point out again and again how stupid you are? Its not like I'm calling you any names just give up and stop wasting my time I don't want to put anyone on my ignore list but you're just unbearably annoying sometimes. If you love Marchisio so much go blow him its none of my concern just don't post about it in the Vidal thread when you're done.

Damn you are dense.

 

[Hust]

It's fascinating how unreasonable you are in a debate.

 

[Cheesio]

I love Vidal and Marchisio. And i love Juve even more.
If Vidal playing and Marchisio being loaned to Parma means we will win the Scudetto or at least be in the top3 . I'm all for it. SO please let's cut this shit

Forza Juve and Fuck Printer

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[Hust]

I just realized Printer is Inter.

 

[ALC]

 

[frick]

I knew that for a while, but what's so bad about printer?