Arturo Vidal (77 Viewers)

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WΏΏdy;3615386 said:
definitely our best player this season alongside pirlo and buffon.
Nah.

Barzagli has been better than him.

Vidal has also probably been pretty similar to Lichtsteiner, it's just that Vidal's really good spell has been recent so it's fresher in people's minds.
 

Fake Melo

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He was very clumsy at the start of the season, but it was expected coming to a new league and all. He has certainly improved, and if keeps current form till the end of the season, then I'd place him next to Buffon, Barzagli and Pirlo.
 

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It's wasn't so much that he was clumsy as he was rushing.

He was still playing at Bundesliga pace, expected to be pressed constantly, where in Italy he has time to take a touch and get his head up before picking a pass.
 

Emmet

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It's wasn't so much that he was clumsy as he was rushing.

He was still playing at Bundesliga pace, expected to be pressed constantly, where in Italy he has time to take a touch and get his head up before picking a pass.
I agree, his technique needs to improve alot, but he's adapting well so far.
 

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It's wasn't so much that he was clumsy as he was rushing.

He was still playing at Bundesliga pace, expected to be pressed constantly, where in Italy he has time to take a touch and get his head up before picking a pass.
Pretty much, but he's gradually learned to become tactically aware aswell.
 

Osman

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Nah.

Barzagli has been better than him.

Vidal has also probably been pretty similar to Lichtsteiner, it's just that Vidal's really good spell has been recent so it's fresher in people's minds.
Yep, Pirlo > Barzagli > Vidal > Licht (I slightly give the to Vidal because his presence is more dominating) > The rest.



P.S Didnt mention Gigi because his norm goes without saying, I dont really try to evaluate him, or notice his performances, he stands out to me when he makes errors, not otherwise hehe.
 

WΏΏdy?

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Nah.

Barzagli has been better than him.

Vidal has also probably been pretty similar to Lichtsteiner, it's just that Vidal's really good spell has been recent so it's fresher in people's minds.
I forgot barza :sergio: Can't say barza has been better, maybe just as good. Considering marchisio's inconsistency vidal has been instrumental in letting pirlo play his game.

Barza is up there too though.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Yep, Pirlo > Barzagli > Vidal > Licht (I slightly give the to Vidal because his presence is more dominating) > The rest.



P.S Didnt mention Gigi because his norm goes without saying, I dont really try to evaluate him, or notice his performances, he stands out to me when he makes errors, not otherwise hehe.
to be fair though Pirlo's success this season has come down largely with having marchisio and vidal next to him in midfield, to create the space and movement which allows Pirlo the time he requires to distribute the ball, so for that reason i'd say Vidal's purchase was greater than Pirlo's from a tactical point of view, from a financial perspective both were bargains.
 

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I edited my post with a "P.S" while you were posting because I figured someone would say what you just did hehe.
Fair enough. :D

WΏΏdy;3615701 said:
I forgot barza :sergio: Can't say barza has been better, maybe just as good. Considering marchisio's inconsistency vidal has been instrumental in letting pirlo play his game.

Barza is up there too though.
Vidal has had a great month or so, but he put in a lot of poor/indifferent performances in the first half of the season and that shouldn't be forgotten. It's not a criticism, because people need time to adapt, but he still put in some very poor displays.

Heaps of 'he was great except for....' performances that lots of people round here rave about and that I dislike.

Barzagli and Pirlo have been the two outfield players whose performances have been at a consistently high level all season.

And I don't get the idea that Marchisio has been inconsistent. He plays to a pretty similar level the vast majority of the time, it's just that he gets used in all sorts of different ways (even when playing in exactly the same position all the time), so sometimes his performances are more eye-catching than they are at other times.
 

Osman

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I appriciate what Vidal brings to the table alot BD, and I was excited for his signing (cool to see how he is litterally adapting to the league every month), but how the heck is he greater in tactical point of view then Pirlo? The same Pirlo IS more or less our tactic. We pretty much changed to play in this way because of him.

And our midfield trio is fantastic BD, saying Pirlo is the best player this season doesnt dispute that, but just pointing out that he is.
 

WΏΏdy?

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Fair enough. :D



Vidal has had a great month or so, but he put in a lot of poor/indifferent performances in the first half of the season and that shouldn't be forgotten. It's not a criticism, because people need time to adapt, but he still put in some very poor displays.

Heaps of 'he was great except for....' performances that lots of people round here rave about and that I dislike.

Barzagli and Pirlo have been the two outfield players whose performances have been at a consistently high level all season.

And I don't get the idea that Marchisio has been inconsistent. He plays to a pretty similar level the vast majority of the time, it's just that he gets used in all sorts of different ways (even when playing in exactly the same position all the time), so sometimes his performances are more eye-catching than they are at other times.
Since the early part of the season when marchisio really exploded, i dont think he has had many eye-catching performences. Im not saying he sucked but if we compare his performences with pirlo or vidal one can say marchisio has been average. Good thing about marchisio is the role he plays seem to suit the system where Vidal works hard and wins the ball back and pirlo creates the opportunities. I remember how badly we got fucked in in the MF when we missed vidal due to his suspension, i remember marchisio missing a few games too, did not affect the team in the same way.
Marchisio does his job well, but he is not irreplaceable even in this team. But Vidal is absolutely vital, he did make mistakes in the earlier part of the season but let's not forget this is his first season in Italy and at Juve. That excuse is not valid anymore but then again Vidal has not really left any need for excuses.

Back to barza, yeah i admit he was better than Vidal but by the thinnest of margins.
 

Osman

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Barza isnt better then Vidal this season by thinnest margin, but by a clear one, Barza has held the same high consistent standard for pretty much ALL games except 2 I recall which I could honestly say he was questionable in some moments. While Vidal spent months being erratic, energetic, but erratic and questionable perfomances.

If the difference between their seasons so far is supposed to be thin, then the periods where they struggled oughta to be somewhat close, while it isnt at all.
 

Osman

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Yep, even Pirlo spent a full month or more being mediocre/questionable as heck. So Barza has been more consistent then him too.

But Pirlo is our best player this season because his performances holds the highest level of all, and are most impactful.
 

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