Arrests in Turkey over football match-fixing (5 Viewers)

OP
Jul 2, 2006
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    You think you're too clever :) but You must admit that our prime minister is a good shepherd, he knows how to mobilize brainless crowds like you!


    First of all, just the tapes without any solid evidence (solid evidence means money transfer) cannot considered as an evidence for the law.

    Moreover, Ibrahim Akin denied his testify in the court. He explained that prosecutor forced him to testify. Prosecutor said him '' If you want to see your children tonight, you must give something to me against Aziz Yildirim.''

    Furthermore, Aziz Yildirim said that ''If you prove that I gave 100.000 euros to Ibrahim Akin, I will kill myself'' in the court.

    In this case all evidences are just tapes and nobody knows if the tapes are manipulated or not? It is very easy to create a tape with the technology.

    We never passed the level of '' we're innocent'' ...

    You know what I recommend you that you must watch the both games Fenerbahce and Trabzonspor at that season.

    If you're objective person, you should understand that Fenerbahce is innocent. ''By the way it is too obvious you're not''

    Can you explain the Turkish law system to me?

    Normally, prosecutor has to prove his or her evidences that they're 100 % true. It is obligatory all over the world.

    However, In Turkey our special courts are expecting to disprove these evidences by suspected persons which is totally unacceptable.
    I won't discuss solidity of tapes here. They are solid enough to convince court, %90 of people, UEFA and some of the Fenerbahce fans who already realized corruptness of their president.

    ''It is very easy to create a tape with the technology.'' And It is very easy to understand it's real or not. Do you believe that prosecutor will create a fake tape and it will work. :lol:

    I can't believe how can someone defend Ibrahim Akın case while there is a phone conversation between him and some guy supposed to be an Imam about cheating money coming from Fenerbahce being ''helal'' or not.

    I am objective when it comes to Turkish football as i don't support any club. However i dislike Fenerbahce because their president is a flag bearer of corruption and most of the fans are ok with it.

    I know something about Turkey.
    Fame of Fenerbahce knows no bounds.
     

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    draco1907

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    I won't discuss solidity of tapes here. They are solid enough to convince court, %90 of people, UEFA and some of the Fenerbahce fans who already realized corruptness of their president.

    ''It is very easy to create a tape with the technology.'' And It is very easy to understand it's real or not. Do you believe that prosecutor will create a fake tape and it will work. :lol:

    I can't believe how can someone defend Ibrahim Akın case while there is a phone conversation between him and some guy supposed to be an Imam about cheating money coming from Fenerbahce being ''helal'' or not.

    I am objective when it comes to Turkish football as i don't support any club. However i dislike Fenerbahce because their president is a flag bearer of corruption and most of the fans are ok with it.



    Fame of Fenerbahce knows no bounds.
    then why I.Akin denied his testify? maybe A.Yildirim threatened him while he was arrested in the prison :D

    So I assume you believe that ex Turkish Army General who has been arrested for 2 months ago for being a member of Terrorist group.

    oh sorry I forgot that you're belong to brainless crowds.

    Of course you believe them...

    But, Turkish people believes that Turkish law system is corrupted.

    Fenerbahce case is nonsense as other cases.

    Moreover, in the end I believe high court will justify Fenerbahce .

    The truth is our politicians are a flag bearer of corruption and most of brainless crowds like you adore our prime minister and gulen movement..
     
    OP
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    then why I.Akin denied his testify? maybe A.Yildirim threatened him while he was arrested in the prison :D

    So I assume you believe that ex Turkish Army General who has been arrested for 2 months ago for being a member of Terrorist group.

    oh sorry I forgot that you're belong to brainless crowds.

    Of course you believe them...

    But, Turkish people believes that Turkish law system is corrupted.

    Fenerbahce case is nonsense as other cases.

    Moreover, in the end I believe high court will justify Fenerbahce .

    The truth is our politicians are a flag bearer of corruption and most of brainless crowds like you adore our prime minister and gulen movement..
    Anyone with some dignity would not dare to deny such a blatant proof.

    26.04.2011 günü saat:23.15′te İbrahim Akın’ın X Şahsı aradığı görüşme;

    İbrahim: “Hocam bir şey sormam lazım sana ya şimdi bizim hafta sonu Fener’le maçımız var ya, demişler ki İbo gol atmasın, yüz bin dolar para verelim ona diye”, X Şahıs:” İyi ne yapacaksın”, İbrahim: “Ben de sana soruyorum dedim hocam bu adamlarına sor diye yani ne yapmamız lazım diye”, X Şahıs: “Sizin takımın kaptanı hocası ne diyor”, İbrahim: “Onlar bir şey diyemiyor hocam Fenerbahçeli oldukları için onlarda bana kalkıp oynama veya gol atma diyemiyorlar başkası tarafından söyleniyor bu., yani bana gol atma diyorlar yani”, X Şahıs: “İyi tamam yani böyle şeyler günümüzde futbol camiasında var değil mi böyle şeyler”, İbrahim: “Var var ama hocam işte ben de sana soruyorum yani kötü olur mu diye…yani para var yani işin ucunda, ama sonucunda diyorlar ki işte şu şunu yapma”, X Şahıs: “Efendim yani onda bir şey yokki ya bu gönül rıza olan bir şey yani sen gol atmayacaksın yerine para verecekler…tabi ya onda bir şey yok yani bunda bir sakınca yok canım niye olsun yani baya başkaları duymasın önemli değil…bizim burada benim köyde baba türbesi var ya Köy babada…orda var çok fakirler var yaparsın bu kurban keseriz orda yedirirsin”, İbrahim: “Doğru hocam tamam”. (tape:3568)

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    Efforts to turn Aziz Yıldırım into a political figure is just :lol: He doesn't care about politics, he does not care about secularism, kemalizm or stuff like that, he is a big supporter of Prime Minister as he would support anyone in power. Only thing he cares is himself.
     
    OP
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    http://www.aa.com.tr/en/rss/73931--turkish-president-to-travel-to-kyrgyzstan

    Yapı Kredi Bank belongs to crypto jewish Koç family which is richest in the country. Their son is in Fenerbahce board. Only a month ago, a journalist spoke about a businessman bribed UEFA to prevent a well deserved ban for Fenerbahce. Now it's official.

    Resemblence between inter and fenerbahce is scary. It's like the summer 2006 in Italia where Moratti bribing Montezemolo by offering new sponsorship deal. Crook is crook, nationality does not matter, their ways are always same.
     

    draco1907

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    http://www.aa.com.tr/en/rss/73931--turkish-president-to-travel-to-kyrgyzstan

    Yapı Kredi Bank belongs to crypto jewish Koç family which is richest in the country. Their son is in Fenerbahce board. Only a month ago, a journalist spoke about a businessman bribed UEFA to prevent a well deserved ban for Fenerbahce. Now it's official.

    Resemblence between inter and fenerbahce is scary. It's like the summer 2006 in Italia where Moratti bribing Montezemolo by offering new sponsorship deal. Crook is crook, nationality does not matter, their ways are always same.
    You are always accusing people with your limited knowledge..

    Have you heard about Uni Credit Group ever? If you not, this group is one of the major sponsor of UEFA champions league.

    https://www.unicreditgroup.eu/en/pr...a-uefa-champion-league-si-e-dimostrata-u.html

    Guess what Uni Credit GROUP one of the major shareholders of YAPI KREDI BANK...

    KOC group and Uni Credit group both have same shares in YAPI KREDI BANK 50% and 50%.

    Nobody say anything for this sponsorship because uni credit already has another successful sponsorship with UEFA.

    Why don't you explain Infantino and Unal Aysal who, is the chairman of galatasaray, business relationship?
     

    MCMV

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    Jul 22, 2011
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    You are always accusing people with your limited knowledge..

    Have you heard about Uni Credit Group ever? If you not, this group is one of the major sponsor of UEFA champions league.

    https://www.unicreditgroup.eu/en/pr...a-uefa-champion-league-si-e-dimostrata-u.html

    Guess what Uni Credit GROUP one of the major shareholders of YAPI KREDI BANK...

    KOC group and Uni Credit group both have same shares in YAPI KREDI BANK 50% and 50%.

    Nobody say anything for this sponsorship because uni credit already has another successful sponsorship with UEFA.

    Why don't you explain Infantino and Unal Aysal who, is the chairman of galatasaray, business relationship?
    Do you like Juventus?

    I totally see correlation between Juventus and Fenerbahce though. :))

    At least, you're consistent with the teams you like.
     
    OP
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    How is it a correlation when civil court acquitted Juventus and condemned Fenerbahce?

    Ironically it is coming from a fan who supports Galatasaray which known as the club brought match-fixing to Türkiye.
     
    OP
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    Turkish football rivalry reignites over match-fixing
    Turkish football club Fenerbahçe remains in Champions League in spite of several arrests and sentences regarding match-fixing, supporters of rival club Trabzonspor, are calling on UEFA to adhere to their own zero tolerance policy and relegate Fenerbahçe.


    “It was like a very big earthquake with a very big impact”, said Turkish sports journalist Banu Yelkovan to BBC World football about the day in July 2011 when the story about widespread match-fixing stemming from Turkish football top club Fenerbahçe FC broke. “Our world changed, nothing was going to be like before.”

    Fenerbahçe had had 17 wins and one loss in 18 matches when it broke that there had been an extensive system of match-fixing involved in the winning streak.

    A large number of players, referees and officials were questioned in court and 61 were arrested.

    Among the arrested was Fenerbahçe president Aziz Yildirim who was later sentenced to three years and nine months in jail for match-fixing and another two years and six months for forming an illegal cartel around the rigged matches.

    Fenerbahçe was allowed to stay in the nationals while investigations were ongoing and beat Trabzonspor FC in the national final. But after the first report on the case by the Turkish high court was released, and UEFA chief inspector of the Disciplinary Committee Pierre Cornu had been in Turkey to oversee the investigation, the Turkish Football Federation (TFF) withdrew Fenerbahçe from the 2011/2012 Champions League season and UEFA invited runner-up Trabzonspor to join instead.

    This series of events led to the resignation of Yildirim and three other high ranking members of the TTF.

    Prime ministerial help

    Since then, the Turkish parliament, backed by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan who is allegedly a Fenerbahçe fan, passed a new match-fixing law. The new law reduces sentences for sports crimes such as involvement in match rigging.

    And although a suggestion to allow clubs involved in match-fixing to avoid relegation was first rejected by the General Convention of the TFF in January, the federation changed path and in April this year amended an article in their rules allowing clubs to stay in competitions in spite of match-fixing attempts - as long as the attempts are not reflected on the field..

    In May, the TFF, backed by the Turkish government, cleared all clubs involved in the match-fixing scandal.

    UEFA investigates
    The Turkish case is currently being investigated by inspectors in the UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body. The international football body FIFA has also requested insight to the Turkish files.

    During the draw for this season’s Champions League in July, UEFA secretary general Gianni Infantino said that the status of Fenerbahçe could still change and that UEFA disciplinary inspectors were studying files including the TFF decisions, which cleared the re-entry of the club.

    “It’s a complicated case and our disciplinary bodies are going through the procedure,” he said according to AP.

    According to journalist James M. Dorsey, an expert in football in the Middle East, UEFA could impose sanctions on Fenerbahçe, but it would not be without consequences:

    “UEFA could opt to extend Fener’s ban, as well as expand it to other prominent clubs implicated in the scandal such as Beşiktaş and Trabzonspor. A UEFA intervention would reflect poorly on Mr. Erdoğan, taint Turkey’s already damaged image and further complicate its bid to host the 2020 European football championship,” writes Dorsey in an article about the Turkish case.

    In the UEFA press release on the draw, Infantino underlined UEFA’s zero tolerance against match-fixing:

    “UEFA will continue with its zero tolerance policy towards any involvement in illegal or irregular activities connected to our matches, and anyone caught risks a life ban from the game.”

    Activists call on UEFA
    These repeated assurances of zero tolerance against what UEFA president Platini has called the ‘biggest threat against football’, are what different groups of activists and supporters are now holding against the European football body.

    UEFA has on several occasions acknowledged and sanctioned against the match-fixing going on in the Turkish league but still they have aligned with Turkish regulations and allowed Fenerbahçe to compete in the current Champions League season citing an on-going review by the UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body.

    “For the time being, therefore, Fenerbahçe may participate in the UEFA competition for which they are eligible, pending a final decision of the UEFA disciplinary body on the matter,” UEFA writes in a statement.

    UEFA further refers to their general stances and measures against match-fixing as stated in the UEFA Strategy on matchfixing and corruption.

    Various groups are now forming and are protesting the state of football in Turkey and what they see as the lack of action from both national and international federations. The groups primarily consist of Trabzonspor fans, who feel the club missed out on the national title when Fenerbahçe was allowed to play the 2011 final. The groups call on UEFA to act according to their own zero tolerance policy and exclude clubs that have been convicted of match-fixing.

    “Despite all solid evidence and court’s decision that sentenced Fenerbahçe’s president, vice presidents and board members to imprisonment for fixing 11 matches in total, UEFA’s unacceptable approach to this case continues,” says an email, sent to UEFA on November 18 from one of the advocating groups.

    “Michel Platini’s and Gianni Infantino’s comments regarding this case and examples they gave are not too far to remember. As they underlined several times, even suspicion is enough to give a verdict on this sort of cases, but you kept ignoring the fact that this crime was penalised by court, but yet to be punished by yourselves,” continues the letter, which is posted on the group’s website stopmatchfixing.com.

    UEFA has no comments on the critique raised by the fan groups.

    Declan Hill, PhD and author of match-fixing book “The Fix”, offers his support to the fan groups and the effort they are putting into cleaning Turkish football. And he - stressing no particular preference for Trabzonspor - emphasizes a march held last month by Trabzonspor fans protesting in front of UEFA headquarters in Nyon, Switzerland.

    Hill also encourages fans of the game from other countries in Europe to put in the same effort in an act to clean up the game:

    “It may be time for football fans across Europe to start imitating their Turkish colleagues and protest about the levels of corruption that are in our beloved sport,” Hill writes in his blog.

    http://www.playthegame.org/news/det...rivalry-reignites-over-match-fixing-5505.html

    Here is some detailed info about match fixing scandal and uefa bribery.
    http://stopmatchfixing.com/
     
    OP
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    http://www.uefa.com/uefa/disciplinary/news/newsid=1971905.html

    Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe appeal decisions

    Published: Monday 15 July 2013, 18.20CET
    UEFA's Appeals Body has announced decisions following the appeals lodged by Beşiktaş JK and Fenerbahçe SK against UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body verdicts issued in June.

    The UEFA Appeals Body today announced its decisions following the appeals lodged by Beşiktaş JK and Fenerbahçe SK related to the two decisions passed by the UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body (CDB) on 21 and 22 June 2013, respectively.
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    The UEFA Appeals Body carefully analysed the statements and documents submitted by Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe related to their specific cases, as well as the statements and documents submitted by the UEFA Disciplinary Inspectors appointed to each case, and reached the following decisions:

    • Beşiktaş have had their appeal rejected. Consequently, Beşiktaş are not eligible to participate in the 2013/14 UEFA Europa League.

    • Fenerbahçe have had their appeal partially admitted. Consequently, Fenerbahçe are excluded from participating in the next two UEFA club competitions they qualify for, including the 2013/14 UEFA Champions League.

    Both clubs have the opportunity to appeal the decisions of the UEFA Appeals Body to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).

    Note: From 1 July 2013, all information related to confirmed UEFA disciplinary decisions is available live on UEFA.com.

    ©UEFA.com 1998-2013. All rights reserved.
     
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    It was bound to happen. They should be thankful for not getting demoted. Same guy is still president of Fenerbahce. He is elected again, when he was in jail, a year ago. This is ridiculous.
     

    blondu

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    that is really shameful..he screwed good years of football for the fans cuz he wanted to win by all means...and i'm sure the last title they got could've been theirs without cheating. well...c'est la vie...i like cheating clubs :D
     
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    Weren't they originally supposed to be relegated because of this? This in seems to be the Turkish Inter.
    They were. President of Besiktas, one of the clubs found guilty, has resigned from club and elected as Football Federation president while all this is going on and changed the sports law to prevent relegation :lol:
     
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    Turkish appeals court approves conviction of Fenerbahçe chairman in match-fixing case

    The Supreme Court of Appeals approved the conviction of Fenerbahçe chairman Aziz Yıldırım in the Turkish football match-fixing case saga on Jan. 17.

    The court announced that it had partially approved some convictions, but had also quashed the convictions of some of the 85 people involved in the case.

    The sentence of former Giresunspor chairman Olgun Peker, who was listed as the number one suspect in the case and was sentenced to two years and six months for forming and leading a crime gang, was approved.

    All officials from Trabzonspor, who lost the 2010-2011 Spor Toto Super League title to Fenerbahçe on goal difference, were cleared of match-fixing attempt charges.

    In 2012, Yıldırım was sentenced to six years and three months in prison and given a penalty of one million Turkish Liras for match-fixing and forming an unarmed crime gang.

    The Supreme Court’s ruling means that Yıldırım can no longer serve as a club official, according to the code for football club administrations. The sanction had required the approval of the appeals court to go into effect.

    Yıldırım, along with fellow Fenerbahçe officials İlhan Ekşioğlu, Şekip Mosturoğlu, Tamer Yelkovan and Cemil Turan, were also found guilty of manipulating several games from the 2010-2011 Turkish championship.

    Fenerbahçe vice chairman Şekip Mosturoğlu’s sentence of one year and 10 months in prison for match-fixing was approved in the ruling.

    The case also involved a number of officials from Beşiktaş, Eskişehirspor, Sivasspor, Giresunspor and Diyarbakırspor.

    High-profile names sentenced to jail

    The court ruling came two-and-a-half years after police detained suspects and prosecutors eventually charged 93 individuals, including Yıldırım, in an investigation that went public on July 3, 2011.

    Fenerbahçe was handed a two-year ban from European competitions by the continental governing body, UEFA, which also handed Beşiktaş a one-year ban.

    The Supreme Court of Appeals also approved the court verdicts of players İbrahim Akın, Mehmet Yıldız, Gökçek Vederson, Ümit Karan, former Beşiktaş board member Serdal Adalı, and former Beşiktaş coach Tayfur Havutçu.

    Former Bursaspor player Gökçek Vederson, who is currently with Antalyaspor, was sentenced to five months in prison for accepting bribes.

    Former Istanbul BB player İbrahim Akın was sentenced to one year and six months in prison for match-fixing and accepting bribes.

    Former Eskişehirspor player Ümit Karan was sentenced to seven months and 15 days in prison and fined 66,000 Turkish Liras for accepting bribes.

    Former Eskişehirspor player Mehmet Yıldız was sentenced to one year and three months in prison for match-fixing.

    Former Beşiktaş official Serdar Adalı was sentenced to one year and three months in prison and fined 250,000 liras for match-fixing.

    Former Beşiktaş coach Tayfur Havutçu was sentenced to one year and three months in prison and fined 100,000 liras for match-fixing.

    Havutçu and Adalı were charged with attempting to manipulate Istanbul BB’s İbrahim Akın ahead of the two teams’ Turkish Cup final match in 2011. Beşiktaş won the match on penalties.

    January/17/2014
     

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