Anyone for Ronaldinho ? (13 Viewers)

sutnop

Junior Member
Apr 24, 2003
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#41
IF I would want the WORLDS BEST PLAYER to play in Juve?

OFCourse

FIRST of all the people that say Riquelme is better then Ronaldinho will never know anything about Football are you even sure you are watching football or is it some highlight show.
Riquelme doesn't move a lot, his pace on the ball is too slow, he holds on to the far too long, has he ever made a 1-touch pass since arriving in Spain? Riquelme would be good in Tellos Santanas Brazilian NT from 82, but not in modern football.

He can dribble but that is about it.

Ronaldinho is the most complete Player in the World
his only weakness is that he realtivley easily gets injured.

Altough I prefer Aimar over Ronaldinho I still recognize Ronalidinho as the better one overall.

But getting him is unrealistic since he runs the show at Barca now... Barcelona have yet to lose a game with Ronaldinho on the pitch.
 

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Jul 12, 2002
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#45
++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
Ohh and D'Alessandro
is perhaps the only player in the world that has the potenial to surpass Ronaldinho
Come on....that's a bit ridiculous, what about Rosicky, Van der Vaart, or Cassano?
 

sutnop

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Apr 24, 2003
218
#48
++ [ originally posted by Graham ] ++
Sure, he's a good player, but maybe there's a reason he went to Wolfsburg
You want some maybes
well I will give you some

MAybe D'Ale went to Wolfsburg after half the Scouting staff had been busting the GM's balls 24/7 6months straight.

Maybe there is a reason that D'Ale cost more then both Saviola and Riquelme.

Maybe there is a reason he is still the only promising attacking Argentinan player Juventus have made an offical enquiry about (inlcuding Tevez, Aimar, Riquelme and Saviola)

Maybe there is a reason that a mid-table club like Wolfsburg broke the bank to get him

Maybe there is a reason he is a bigger hero in River then Aimar and Saviola.


And I still personally prefer Aimar
but that doesn't mean he is better or has higher potenial then D'Alessandro
 

arc

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2004
4,078
#49
i would like to see any of the above in black n white stripes, but are u sure juve board r ready to spend that much?
 
Jul 12, 2002
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#50
++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
You want some maybes
well I will give you some

MAybe D'Ale went to Wolfsburg after half the Scouting staff had been busting the GM's balls 24/7 6months straight.
Or maybe he went to Wolfsburg because they were the only team seriously interested in him.

++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
Maybe there is a reason that D'Ale cost more then both Saviola and Riquelme.
Probably because Barcelona has a better negotiating staff than Wolfsburg...

++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
Maybe there is a reason he is still the only promising attacking Argentinan player Juventus have made an offical enquiry about (inlcuding Tevez, Aimar, Riquelme and Saviola)
Maybe that's because Juve's scouting staff in South America sucks.

++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
Maybe there is a reason that a mid-table club like Wolfsburg broke the bank to get him
So you're basing your assessment of his abilities on the fac that Wolfsburg spent big money on him? That's a bit thin, if you know what I mean.

++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
Maybe there is a reason he is a bigger hero in River then Aimar and Saviola.
That proves nothing even if it's true. Diego Forlan is a bigger hero at Old Trafford than Darren Fletcher...That doesn't mean that he's better.
 

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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#51
++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
Maybe there is a reason he is still the only promising attacking Argentinan player Juventus have made an offical enquiry about (inlcuding Tevez, Aimar, Riquelme and Saviola)
Apart from what Ian said (i mean come on, we've only been getting 2nd-rate Uruguayans from SA :rolleyes: ), how can you say that he's more promising than Tevez or Aimar !?

++ [ originally posted by Ian ] ++
That proves nothing even if it's true. Diego Forlan is a bigger heo at Old Trafford than Darren Fletcher...That doesn't mean that he's better.
Perfect example. Bravo
 

sutnop

Junior Member
Apr 24, 2003
218
#52
Personally I would pick Aimar over D'Ale anyday
as a leiman or a football fan

But as a someone looking for talent
I have to say
D'Alessandro has got more potenial then anyone else of coming from Argentina born between (80-85)

Only players close to his potenial are Diego and Robinho but the latter has already started to disappoint....

and seriously taking a stance for Tevez is like these crazy people that were trying to tell me 2 years back
That Riquelme is a much better player then Aimar....

Tevez is not from the School of Complete Football
He is from Boca that says it all.....

And about the Uruguyans what is up with that
I mean we are not Udinese who need half decent clubs to give us their youth stars....

Cause there are really good URuguyans coming out of Uruguay just not to Juve...
 

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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#53
++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
Tevez is not from the School of Complete Football
He is from Boca that says it all.....
Yeah, great reasoning :rolleyes:

++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
Cause there are really good URuguyans coming out of Uruguay just not to Juve...
Exactly. Juve's scouts in South America suck ass
 

sutnop

Junior Member
Apr 24, 2003
218
#54
of the
River v Boca
Dilemma is if you look at 2 player who were in Argentina considered equal in Skill if seen over a period of the last 2 years they both played in the LEague.

Martin Demichelis
Sebastian Battaglia

Demichelis is instrumental in Bayern Munich a top club in Europe always starting and adjusted fast and swift to the European style of play

While Battaglia is having all the trouble in the world Adjusting to Villareal (The Team that plays the most South American friendly football in Primera Division) and is not even in the starting 11 at times.

In Argentina these 2 were considered equals....

MEaning recommending Boca players would be sucside
4out of 5 times

while River player fail perhaps
1outof 5 times
 

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
30,260
#55
So because you gave me 1 example of a Boca player who is struggling, and 1 example of a River player who's playing well that means Boca players would be suicide 4 out of 5 times?

I could just as well say that we should never sign Urugayan players, because Zalayeta and Montero are crap, and we're not using Carini or Oliveira

++ [ originally posted by Graham ] ++
Yeah, great reasoning :rolleyes:
 

sutnop

Junior Member
Apr 24, 2003
218
#56
Christ

are you being serious
or are you messing with me

Can't you understand that I am trying to state a perfect example of the fact with two players that give a very good represenation of adaption to European football from 2 Famous Youth Academies
Not give you a statical run through out of the 20 last exports from River and Boca...

As for Montero he is not crap and he has been valuable for really long and he came from Atalanta not straight from South America


But hey
If you don't want to understand
you won't understand
 
Jul 12, 2002
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#57
++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
Personally I would pick Aimar over D'Ale anyday
as a leiman or a football fan

But as a someone looking for talent
I have to say
D'Alessandro has got more potenial then anyone else of coming from Argentina born between (80-85)

Only players close to his potenial are Diego and Robinho but the latter has already started to disappoint....

and seriously taking a stance for Tevez is like these crazy people that were trying to tell me 2 years back
That Riquelme is a much better player then Aimar....

Tevez is not from the School of Complete Football
He is from Boca that says it all.....

And about the Uruguyans what is up with that
I mean we are not Udinese who need half decent clubs to give us their youth stars....

Cause there are really good URuguyans coming out of Uruguay just not to Juve...
Okay, so you say that D'ale has all this potential. Can you give some evidence to support this supopsition?

Looking at it statistically, D'ale isn't doing appreciably better than Riquelme. D'ale has three goals in the Bundesligue, and Riqulme has 10 goals in La Liga and the UEFA Cup. I've looked, but I'm unable to find assist statistics for those players...maybe you could help me out with that.
 

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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#58
++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
As for Montero he is not crap and he has been valuable for really long and he came from Atalanta not straight from South America
I was aware of that, and was intentionally taking on your seemingly preconceived and illogically thought out views about players i.e. "Montero sux now, which means all Uruguayans suck"

++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
But hey
If you don't want to understand
you won't understand
Don't speak about understanding like your opinion is an absolute truth. This is hardly about understanding, t's about taking your point of view.
 

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