Antonio Conte - Manager - Siena (10 Viewers)

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khalidkassim

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Feb 2, 2007
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If he wants to keep Momo, then he has no idea what he's doing. Sorry, he doesn't.
why does everyone at juventuz hate momo? he puts in a decent work-rate and he offers excellent defensive cover, yea he's not an attacking threat but a team needs at least two DM's on its roster.

oh and may I add, he has improved his passing over the years. e.g. it was his pass that gave krasic the last minute goal vs lazio earlier in the year...
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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If it's true that Pirlo is coming and we're indeed playing attacking 442, Momo would be the first option I'd consider from our squad. I can't see it working, but if Momo is useful somewhere, it's probably next to Pirlo.
 
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The pass against Lazio was very good, but there were plenty of times he gave up possession cheaply. In a three man midfield, with Pirlo alongside him, he might be better with less responsibilities going forward and two good CMs to give possession to.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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why does everyone at juventuz hate momo? he puts in a decent work-rate and he offers excellent defensive cover, yea he's not an attacking threat but a team needs at least two DM's on its roster.

oh and may I add, he has improved his passing over the years. e.g. it was his pass that gave krasic the last minute goal vs lazio earlier in the year...
I'm sorry, but if you're going to use one single pass as evidence for "improvement", you need a lesson in basic statistics.

You're completely wrong. Sissoko's passing has actually gotten worse throughout the years, just like his defensive effectiveness. Anybody who has watched the matches would know that.

Some say it's the system, others say it's the coach. I don't give a crap. He has become completely useless year over year and if you want a bull in a china shoppe running your midfield with Pirlo without any other support centrally, you're insane.
 

khalidkassim

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this is what i see realistically happening w/ conte on board:

keep: melo, momo, marchisio, dp, iaq, quag, matri, bonucci, chiellini, dc, krasic, sorensen, buffon, storari
sell/return: motta, pepe, grosso, grygera, amauri, martinez, brazzo, aquilani, manninger
buy/acquire: pirlo, pastore/aguero, bastos/vargas, beck, ziegler, lanzafame

One of Amauri/Iaquinta will depart. Both leaving would render us without any pure striker except for Matri.
 

khalidkassim

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I'm sorry, but if you're going to use one single pass as evidence for "improvement", you need a lesson in basic statistics.

You're completely wrong. Sissoko's passing has actually gotten worse throughout the years, just like his defensive effectiveness. Anybody who has watched the matches would know that.

Some say it's the system, others say it's the coach. I don't give a crap. He has become completely useless year over year and if you want a bull in a china shoppe running your midfield with Pirlo without any other support centrally, you're insane.
NO you're wrong. its not his passing that hasn't improved its him holding onto it too long before making the pass. His defensive capabilities have not dropped.

And you not giving a crap and wanting to offload a player without understanding what is behind his play or how beneficial he'd be with certain players around him is the same dumbass mentality that got diego shipped off last year.
 

Bjerknes

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NO you're wrong. its not his passing that hasn't improved its him holding onto it too long before making the pass. His defensive capabilities have not dropped.

And you not giving a crap and wanting to offload a player without understanding what is behind his play or how beneficial he'd be with certain players around him is the same dumbass mentality that got diego shipped off last year.
It's pretty obvious that since Ranieri and Zanetti left, Sissoko has lost everything he once had. Over the past two years he hasn't been anything like he was under Ranieri. If you think that's because Zanetti is some amazing player, or Ranieri is an amazing coach, fine. But saying that Sissoko has improved over the years is complete malarkey, so I might as well place you on ignore because you have no goddamn clue what you're talking about.
 

Mike-e-y

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Jul 18, 2004
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If we can ship Momo out for decent money we should do it. If we can swap him for Lass or Gago then do it. If we're going to sell him for under £6m then I'd rather keep hold of him as a back up. Momo was only ever good with a passer next to him as Andy pointed out (Zanetti), alongside Melo they are both worse players. If were getting Pirlo, Momo could offer us something, focussing purely on defense. Melo would be the starter everyday in my book, but we would have a very solid back up anchor in Momo
 

AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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this is what i see realistically happening w/ conte on board:

keep: melo, momo, marchisio, dp, iaq, quag, matri, bonucci, chiellini, dc, krasic, sorensen, buffon, storari
sell/return: motta, pepe, grosso, grygera, amauri, martinez, brazzo, aquilani, manninger
buy/acquire: pirlo, pastore/aguero, bastos/vargas, beck, ziegler, lanzafame

One of Amauri/Iaquinta will depart. Both leaving would render us without any pure striker except for Matri.
We still have Toni in our books and hopefully we are getting someone else instead of Lanza. He didnt do wonders in the first half of the season when he was here with us. I dunt mind we selling Momo if we going to sign Lassana Diara.
 

khalidkassim

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Feb 2, 2007
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it would be some smart business if marotta found a buyer for Toni. I still rate Iaq more productively than Toni, maybe not strike rate but overall contribution...(and not judging the Iaquinta of this season).

As for Lass or Gago...I'd rate Momo higher than Gago, at least Momo creates random ass opportunities as he did in the Milan game this year, the inter game with his long range shot that marchisio rebounded and drove home last year.

Lassana I've heard great things of but whenever I watch him play, el Classico, he seems like a physical player with little to offer going forward. I don't see us coming out with more cash from selling sissoko and buying Lass, thats why save our money for an area on the pitch where we'd need it. But hell since Andy doesn't like him, lets sell him...after all we will only play one competition next year...then again we are the least injury prone team on EARTH.
 

Wahdan

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I believe Conte is the right man considering our situation. I fully support this idea, just Marotta needs to wake up and provide him 3-4 World-Class players.
 

AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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I believe Conte is the right man considering our situation. I fully support this idea, just Marotta needs to wake up and provide him 3-4 World-Class players.
Unless we are spending 100 million buying players, we cant get 3-4 World Class players.
 

rainhard

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May 5, 2004
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It just extraordinary, Sir Bobby Robson is really a great mentor. First Jose Mourinho and the next is Andre Villas Boas.
I really hope we can get Andre Villas Boas, because in my opinion we can build a new era if we appointed him.

As far as I know Conte will be great in term of style of play (attacking football). And will attract spectator to our new stadium. But if we really want to back to the top. Andre Villas Boas is the answer.

Just look at this :

In his first season as coach, Villas-Boas set the following records:
By winning the UEFA Europa League on 18 May 2011, he is the youngest manager ever to win a European competition, at 33 years and 213 days of age.
The club record for the most matches across all competitions unbeaten (36). This record was previously held by José Mourinho at 33 matches. Part of this streak was completed by the previous coach of FC Porto, Jesualdo Ferreira.
The most wins in Europe in one season by a Portuguese club (14)
The most points in a 30-game Portuguese league season (84)
The highest number of consecutive wins in the Portuguese league (16)
The biggest margin over the second placed team in the league (21)
The only team to go unbeaten through a Portuguese league season aside from Benfica in 1972/73 and in 1977/78
On 3 April 2011, Villas-Boas won his first Primeira Liga, five rounds before the end, by defeating second-place Benfica 2–1 away at the Estádio da Luz in Lisbon, becoming the third youngest coach to win it, only behind Mihály Sistka (1938–39) and Juca (1961–62). It is the second time that Porto won the Portuguese league by beating its rival at its home soil, the first time being 71 years ago, in the 1939–40 season when Porto clinched the title by defeating Benfica at the Estádio das Amoreiras.
 

khalidkassim

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Feb 2, 2007
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We won't have anything near 100 mln though.
I thought the plan was between 100 and 200 million. or at least 100....take out quagliarella and matri fee's there's 25 out.

assuming we sell all that garabagio i mentioned above, we can redeem 10 to 20 mill.

Conservatively lets say we have 85 to play with after that. We pick up bastos or equivalent for 20.

65, we buy beck for 7 = 58

we buy aguero/pastore for 35 to 40

we're left with 18 to 23 for a left back and depth player(s)
 

Flamez

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Feb 7, 2011
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If he wants to keep Momo, then he has no idea what he's doing. Sorry, he doesn't.
:agree:

His statements of joining Juve and what he'd do have been a complete disaster until now. The only one likeable was the one about Giovinco.

About Sissoko, I used to like him, but we'll need the money from his sale. IMO, we should sell Melo and Sissoko, keep Marrone as backup and bring a WC destroyer with the money we'd get from them. Melo alongside Pirlo wouldn't work as Melo would keep going up on the pitch like mad and it'd surely make us very fragile on the opponent's counter.

Btw, about Conte's kind of game, he takes an huge advantage against DN if his players really close down everytime on the pitch like he says. Still, I don't like the majority of his ideas.
 
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